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CF6-80C2: Twenty-five Years And Counting  
User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6961 posts, RR: 63
Posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5701 times:

Just as the CFM56 is the benchmark for engines in its thrust category, the CF6 is the star on widebodies: DC10, MD11, 747, 767, A300, A310, A330... and on most of these (but only 'most'  ) it's been the market leader.

GE are now celebrating 25 years of the CF6-80C2. They've so far delivered 3,800+ engines.  Wow!   

Much as it causes me excruciating indigestion to say so, that's more than all RR high-bypass engines put together. Ever wondered why GE is #1? It's because of two engines: the CFM56 and the CF6.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...sary-of-best-selling-widebody.html

Can't argue with that!

Merry Christmas!   

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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4864 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5685 times:
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Quoting PM (Thread starter):
Much as it causes me excruciating indigestion to say so, that's more than all RR high-bypass engines put together. Ever wondered why GE is #1? It's because of two engines: the CFM56 and the CF6.


I can understand your indigestion, but it is therefore even more classy of you to post information on this memorable GE celebration.   

Congratulations to GE on a job superbly executed. You do not easily become the world dominating engine supplier on airliners.  .


User currently offlineDL_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1979 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5552 times:

Does anyone know the first -C2 powered 767?

The oldest I can find is line no. 158, The former N767GE 767ER Prototype.


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The first AA -C2 was line no 202 N351AA:


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This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineraggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1002 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

Quoting PM (Thread starter):
MD11, 747, 767, A300, A310, A330...

Just a small nitpick; The engine in question is not found on the A330, that would be the CF6-80E1 (your favourite), other than that I second your congrats to GEAE on the CF6.

I love the classical look and sound of this engine.


raggi



Stick & Rudder
User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2196 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5489 times:

The first civil 747 with GE CF6-80C2 engines ?


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747-3D7, L/N 681, serial number 23721, F/F 6 -22 -1987.


The first and most famous military 747 with GE CF6-80C2 engines ?

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747-2G4B, L/N 679, serial number 23824, F/F 5 -16 -1987



Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6961 posts, RR: 63
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5430 times:

Quoting raggi (Reply 3):
Just a small nitpick; The engine in question is not found on the A330, that would be the CF6-80E1

LOL!

I don't understand all these numbers and letters. You mean, the CF6 on the A330 isn't included in the 3,800+ sales noted above?

Damn!


User currently offlineraggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1002 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5403 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 5):

Correct. One can't do anything but take one's hat off!


raggi



Stick & Rudder
User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2196 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5381 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 5):
You mean, the CF6 on the A330 isn't included in the 3,800+ sales noted above?

That's correct, the article mentioned 3800+ for only the CF6-80C2 variant, with many sub-variants for the different applications

The A330 is powered by larger fan diameter CF6-80E engines (also with many sub variants to make it even more difficult.)

Other CF6 variants are CF6-6, CF6-50 and CF6-80A engines and are also not included in this grand total.



Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlineDL_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1979 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5227 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 4):
The first and most famous military 747 with GE CF6-80C2 engines ?


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747-2G4B, L/N 679, serial number 23824, F/F 5 -16 -1987

Are there any other -200s with CF6-80A or -80C engines? Or are they all -50s?



This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13437 posts, RR: 100
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5210 times:
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Quoting PM (Thread starter):
Ever wondered why GE is #1? It's because of two engines: the CFM56 and the CF6.

I'm thinking the GE-90-115 and CF-34 played a little role too.   Any way you slice it, GE has done very well.

Lightsaber



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2196 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5115 times:

Quoting DL_mech (Reply 8):
Are there any other -200s with CF6-80A or -80C engines? Or are they all -50s?



No 747's are ever produced or re-engined with CF6-80A engines.
Only two 747-200's are produced with GE CF6-80C2B1 engines, both for the USAF. (Note : the E4B aircraft are CF6-50E(2) powered)
Additional seven 747-300's are produced with the same -80C2B1 engines. (2x Thai, 3x Varig, 2 x Air India).



Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8221 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5011 times:

A great performer to be sure, but this engine is annoying-sounding and without real soul. It really only has a decent sound with its distinctive whine at idle. For the 744 or 763, I much prefer the sound of the PW 'ghost' and RR 'buzzsaw' powerplants.


If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineUTAH744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4909 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 11):
A great performer to be sure, but this engine is annoying-sounding and without real soul. It really only has a decent sound with its distinctive whine at idle. For the 744 or 763, I much prefer the sound of the PW 'ghost' and RR 'buzzsaw' powerplants

I loved the low growl of the CF6-80's on the DC-10 at Max Take Off Power, especially early in the takeoff roll. One thing that took a little getting used to was the N1s well over 100%. NWA had the CF6-80s on their DC-10-30s and PW JT-9s on the dog -40s. But oddly the only engine failure was a -30 Seattle to Kansai.

Contrats GE on a great eninge family.



You are never too old to learn something stupid
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8221 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4873 times:

Quoting UTAH744 (Reply 12):

I loved the low growl of the CF6-80's on the DC-10 at Max Take Off Power, especially early in the takeoff roll

Not to nitpick, but the DC-10-15 and -30 were powered by CF6-50s.



If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlinecovert From Ghana, joined Oct 2001, 1453 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4762 times:

Quoting UTAH744 (Reply 12):
Quoting UTAH744 (Reply 12):
had the CF6-80s on their DC-10-30s

NO DC-10 had the -80 variant of CF6.



thank goodness for TCAS !
User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1993 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

Quoting PM (Thread starter):
They've so far delivered 3,800+ engines.

All those engines, and yet I'm sitting at 0 for the number of times they've powered me into the air! I've always gotten Pratts.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6961 posts, RR: 63
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 15):
All those engines, and yet I'm sitting at 0 for the number of times they've powered me into the air! I've always gotten Pratts.

I've been lifted aloft by CF6s 45 times. Not quite sure how many of them were -80s.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

It would have to be a AA 762ER that was delivered in 1985. I think the registration is 319AA unless she had the CF680 not the C2 version.

KH



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineDL_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1979 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 17):
I think the registration is 319AA unless she had the CF680 not the C2 version.


AA 767-200s and DL 767-200 and -300s were delivered with CF6-80As.



This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
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