n7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1588 posts, RR: 12 Posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12840 times:
The internal announcement went out a few days ago I believe. Mesaba is going to fly for US Airways out of LGA using a handful of SAAB's. This is not a complete surprise as the leaders at Pinnacle said they anticipated Mesaba continuing SAAB operations after Delta.
The (7) SAAB's joining the fleet are former NW Airlink models returned since the merger: 402, 407, 412, 413, 414, 416, 418. Mesaba will be leasing these directly (Delta had already returned them to the lessor).
I believe the service begins in a small form in March, increasing through the Spring.
n7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1588 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 12654 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1): interesting to see that Mesaba returned the planes to Saab, and Saab is going to lease them right back to them
Mesaba was sub-leasing the planes from Delta (previously Northwest). The planes technically were returned to Delta, then to SAAB. Delta assumed the leases on the entire SAAB fleet with the NWA merger and it's Delta who made the decision to retire the fleet with their lease expirations/renewals.
n7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1588 posts, RR: 12 Reply 5, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 12390 times:
Quoting USXguy (Reply 4): do we know if these are pro-rate aircraft or capacity-purchase agreement aircraft?
I do not believe this is at-risk.
Colgan has about 15 Saabs in the USX fleet, correct?
Colgan does but the airline and the planes are being phased out. Q400's will go to Mesaba. The SAAB's at Colgan are older models. Mesaba's at B+ which gives them the best range & lift in the 340 fleet - so they're an upgrade. Plus I believe all these 340's did get new interiors shortly before Delta terminated the leases.
NASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1281 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11862 times:
I'm a little curious when it comes to the Saab 340 series. There the the -A's, the -B's, and the -B+'s, but between the two -B models, what exactly is different? It seems as though there are two different types of props driving the -B models, and they're not necessarily associated with the standard or plus model. Please see attached photos:
...is a standard B model. On this aircraft, (with the black spinners), you can see that the props are also curved differently, similar to the ATR72-210.
I've also noticed that there are also standard B models with the same props as the Mesaba photo (props that are similar to the -A model). Any thoughts? Sorry to go off-topic with that, but was just curious...
planeguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1166 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 11486 times:
As a frequent US flyer at LGA I welcome them. I've grown bored with the DH-8, only because of the high number of times I've been on them. I always liked flying the 340 ever since my first Business Express flight with them JFK-SYR (flying as DL cx)
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9354 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 11351 times:
Quoting NASBWI (Reply 11): but between the two -B models, what exactly is different?
The only difference was the interior on the B+. Saab did a complete redesign that included adding the ANC system. There are actually 4 models of the Saab 340. The A.... what we call the A+.. the B and B+. The A+ introduced the new and much improved Gen II interior and around that same window a redesigned and larger horizontal stabilizer.
The Saab 340 gave you two propeller options. The Dowty and the Hamilton-Standard. American Eagle was the only operator to ever order the Ham-Std prop... ( Black Spinner ).. so if you see a Saab 340 with a black spinner it was ordered new by American Eagle.
[Edited 2010-12-24 06:04:57]
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