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Transaero To Purchase Four 777-300s From SQ  
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 15985 times:
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Transaero will purchase four Boeing 777-300ERs from Singapore Airlines in 2011. They will be deployed on domestic and international routes. Transaero "currently serves more than 100 routes in Russia, Europe, Asia, Africa and North and South America and added 18 new routes so far this winter schedule. It will launch a weekly Moscow Domodedovo-Rio de Janeiro flight in January."
http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...777-300ers-singapore-airlines-1223

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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12436 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 15946 times:

That's a big surprise. Selling 772s I can understand, but those 77Ws are very new.

User currently offlineFlyNWA727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 15934 times:

Yeah, this is really shocking as well. SQ selling off coveted 77Ws???


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User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 15870 times:

Just saw this on ATW and was about to create a thread. Definitely the first airline to sell off 77Ws ?


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4907 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 15735 times:

Quoting FlyNWA727 (Reply 2):
Yeah, this is really shocking as well. SQ selling off coveted 77Ws???

Has SQ taken on more than what they can chew? I personally doubt it...

EK413



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User currently offlineKFly From Australia, joined May 2004, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 15637 times:

I have a feeling that it's a typo in the article and what were sold are the 772s or 773s non ER version.


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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2959 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 15559 times:

Yeah, the 77W seems alittle bit of a typo here. If it was to be true, it would be a rather strange decision indeed.

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 15533 times:
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According to Transaero's Press Release, "Transaero also plans to purchase four Boeing 777-300s next year. Those jetliners offer enhanced ergonomics in a four-class configuration and will be able to accommodate up to 373 passengers. The 777-300s will be operated on both Transaero’s domestic and international routes."
http://transaero.ru/en/company/press-centre/news?year=2010&id=37


User currently offlineCFBFrame From United States of America, joined May 2009, 531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 15505 times:

SQ may be getting new 77W from BA as compensation for their 787 delays?

User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 15270 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 7):
According to Transaero's Press Release, "Transaero also plans to purchase four Boeing 777-300s next year. ... The 777-300s will be operated on both Transaero’s domestic and international routes."

(emphasis mine)

I think ATW has simply got it wrong and we're talking about 777-300s here, not 777-300ERs, which are very different.



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User currently offlinemiaintl From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1049 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 15130 times:

I think UN should increase its short haul fleet and acquire more 737s so it can improve and increase its feed from its DME hub. Therefore it can effectivley compete with SU and S7 for the domestic market in Russia.

User currently offlineash185 From New Zealand, joined Apr 2009, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 15118 times:

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 9):
I think ATW has simply got it wrong and we're talking about 777-300s here, not 777-300ERs, which are very different.

Yeah i would say your on the mark. It would be crazy to sell of 77Ws at this time


User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 14672 times:

ATW typo. 773s not 77Ws.


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User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14447 times:

Hmm, so SQ really starts its phase-out of the B777 with exception of the B77W.

That is really sad to see.

But the B773 is a perfect "tourist-bomber" for Transaero on most of their routes.


User currently offlineVmcavmcg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13031 times:

It is a typo. SQ is not getting rid of the 77W but rather the 773. While the 773 is a good aircraft, it really is somewhat of a pig when at MTOW. You will see SQ retain the 77W for many years to come.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4907 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11778 times:

What's the average age of the B773 fleet...?


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User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1586 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

Quoting 328JET (Reply 13):
Hmm, so SQ really starts its phase-out of the B777 with exception of the B77W.

That is really sad to see.

But the B773 is a perfect "tourist-bomber" for Transaero on most of their routes.

Well, they still have some 77E's that were delivered early this decade, and those are going to stay until the A350XWB comes. And at my last visit to Changi, I was surprised to see almost nothing but 777's there, just an occasional Airbus...

Yes, good to see the 773's being used at a new operator, would be sad if they had ended up in the desert.



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User currently offlinestitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30922 posts, RR: 87
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10975 times:
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Quoting EK413 (Reply 16):
What's the average age of the B773 fleet...?

About a decade. The bulk of deliveries were 1998 through 2002, with some top-ups in 2004 and 2005, per Boeing's O&D report.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9894 times:
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Aeroflot used to operate into South America, but they eventually left the continent. Transaero will start DME-GIG soon and applied with the Peruvian Civil Aeronautics Board to operate a DME-LIM service. UN's recent expansion is quite impressive.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25205 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9780 times:

Quoting stitch (Reply 18):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 16):
What's the average age of the B773 fleet...?

About a decade. The bulk of deliveries were 1998 through 2002, with some top-ups in 2004 and 2005, per Boeing's O&D report.

Average looks just over 8 years.


User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9353 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9435 times:

Are these birds RR Trent powered?


yep.
User currently offlinestitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30922 posts, RR: 87
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9392 times:
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Quoting deltal1011man (Reply 20):
Are these birds RR Trent powered?

Yes.


User currently offlineraggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 998 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9186 times:

Quoting Vmcavmcg (Reply 14):
While the 773 is a good aircraft, it really is somewhat of a pig when at MTOW. You will see SQ retain the 77W for many years to come.

A pig at MTOW, eh? Can't be much worse than a 77E at MTOW? Dunno what the SQ 773s are certified to, but max for the 773 is 660Klbs vs 656Klbs for the 77E.
Regional, medium haul, intra-Asian routes should suit the 773 perfectly.


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User currently offlineTransaeroYYZ From Canada, joined Dec 2010, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9132 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
Transaero will purchase four Boeing 777-300ERs from Singapore Airlines in 2011

When next yr will they arrive? I'm flying YYZ - DME -OVB in April, does anyone think they will they upgrade to the 777 from 767.


User currently offlineolli From Mexico, joined Mar 2001, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 8907 times:

[quote=Viscount724,reply=19]Average looks just over 8 years[/qu

To be precise, 9.1 years.

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25 Vmcavmcg : Not really needed in that role. That's the problem and that's why they are phasing them out.
26 CX Flyboy : I guess maybe CX aren't taking them then!
27 RayChuang : The planes Transaero will get are NOT 777-300ER's, but 777-300's, which have a max range of 6,000 nautical miles compared to the 7,800 plus nautical m
28 ZKCIF : Yeah, non-ER definitely. I've read all their press-releases, news, etc. that they post on the website (in Russian, thus, the original texts). In short
29 EK413 : Nevertheless, UN have picked up well maintained aircraft, from a great carrier... Any idea what the average age would be at SQ and UN...? EK413
30 SEPilot : According to Wiki, SQ has 12 773 (non-ER)'s. Are they shopping the other 8, or will they continue to operate them?
31 Post contains images ManekS : Definitely not 300ER's - SQ has a shortage of those! These 300's will help UN start new routes and increase frequencies on existing routes for sure. G
32 CX Flyboy : By all accounts of engineers of airlines who have bought ex-SQ aircraft, they are normally dogs that require a lot of work. There is a reason SQ sell
33 Post contains images PM : With respect, that makes no sense at all. If they know they'll be selling planes with half their life still remaining, they'd want to keep them in go
34 nicholaschee : For a start, SQ doesn't even own these 4 777-300s. They were sold to a lessor a couple of years ago with leases terminating in Q3/Q4 2011.
35 A388 : When I saw the thread titled I immediately thaught of SQ's 773's and not the 77W. I don't see SQ getting rid of those bird in the coming years as the
36 CX Flyboy : Yes but with that theory then it would be in every single airline's interest to keep their planes in top condition. Sadly we know this simply isn't t
37 pylon101 : Thansaero used to check each aircraft history. It should a/c with longer hours and less cycles. All those 747 Classics taken from JAL, NZ, SA (and a c
38 Ejazz : Having flown SQ's B773s, and not as a passenger, I can say CX Flyboy is absolutely correct, SQ's engineering is mediocre at best. If you want to see a
39 Burkhard : I expect these planes to run high capacity tourist routes, Spain, Canaries, Greece, to increase capacity, not frequency.
40 pylon101 : Actually Transaero needed Boeing 777. For heavy routes (like BKK) it work as a second daily, in addition to 743. For some routes it really adds freque
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