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rl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6863 times:

No press release or anything anywhere yet but Delta.com is showing 3x CRJs starting in April

PVD-DCA 0700 1015 and1820

DCA-PVD (Arriving) 0945 1750 and 2200

It appears these flights came from BOS-DCA

This will be nice competition on a route that has seen a sharp increase in airfares in recent years. DCA has always been a solid performer from PVD with US usually having equal or more capacity on DCA than whats offered in the larger BDL market.

With more added capacity, 2011 should be the year PVD turns the corner. This will bring Delta to 15 daily flights come May

Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!

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peanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1312 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6841 times:

Anything DL-DCA related has to be looked at from a DL-US-DCA-LGA perspective.
We'll see how it all shakes out at some point.

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PHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6301 times:

Interesting. I had reason to do DCA-PVD out Sunday evenings, returning midday Fridays on 11 occasions this year, mainly in the summer and early fall months on US (RP) E75s. Loads were usually in the 65-85% range. Maybe that's due to higher fares (I was always connecting in DCA so I couldn't tell) but those kind of loads don't beg for 150 or so more seats per day. Still, DL has a decent DCA presence so maybe they'll be able to fill them or stimulate demand on both to increase loads.

rl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6255 times:

Quoting peanuts (Reply 1):
Maybe that's due to higher fares

The average fare for Q2 2010 for US on PVD-DCA was $272 e/w... thats an average of abour $600 out of pocket r/t for a 1 hour flight. Not to mention over 200 passengers per day (US@ DCA only) were paying those fares.

Also makes sense that Delta shifted these flights down from BOS since US and B6 are trashing the yeilds there.

Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!

pvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3375 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6179 times:

GREAT news. DL seems to be creating a very nice presence for themselves in PVD lately.

keagkid101 From Portugal, joined Mar 2010, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5953 times:

Glad to hear this. I fly PVD-BWI frequently, and Southwest's aircraft are almost always filled to capacity. Washington DC and its metro area seem to be popular from the Providence and southeastern parts of Mass. If fares are good enough, I might consider flying into DCA over BWI.

FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6540 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5939 times:

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Quoting pvd757 (Reply 4):

And AA still can't make their way over...

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CAMPBELL From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3980 times:

Delta Connection Launching service, great! more regional service in Barbie's fun jet

rl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3703 times:

Quoting CAMPBELL (Reply 7):
Delta Connection Launching service, great! more regional service in Barbie's fun jet

PVD-DCA is a much more appropriate use of a CRJ compared to PVD-ATL which is what it was a few years ago (now its back to MD88s)

Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!

FutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 762 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

DL will also begin 1x daily CHS-DCA flights the same day.

These 4 new flights will be funded via a reduction from 12 to 8 on the DCA-BOS route. The same day, E75s will also replace mainline on the 2x daily DCA-MIA/TPA routes and on 2 of the 4 DCA-MCO routes.

[Edited 2010-12-28 09:17:26]

SolarFlyer22 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Nov 2009, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

Quoting keagkid101 (Reply 5):

Glad to hear this. I fly PVD-BWI frequently, and Southwest's aircraft are almost always filled to capacity. Washington DC and its metro area seem to be popular from the Providence and southeastern parts of Mass. If fares are good enough, I might consider flying into DCA over BWI.

I do the same. SW has conquered PVD and they use it in lieu of Logan. It will hopefully ease congestion at Logan too. I would be nice to see less regional aircraft to PVD but its not a real big airport.

rl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2504 times:

Quoting SolarFlyer22 (Reply 10):
I would be nice to see less regional aircraft to PVD

For the most part the 50 seat RJs have been replaced with larger equipment

Only markets with 50 seaters are EWR, DTW, DCA (1 of 5 on US), PHL (2 of 8) and IAD in the winter only (2 of 4). LGA and YYZ are the only prop routes aside from 9K in the summer.

Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!

FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

Quoting FutureUScapt (Reply 9):
The same day, E75s will also replace mainline on the 2x daily DCA-MIA/TPA routes and on 2 of the 4 DCA-MCO routes.

No surprise on these reductions. The MD88's were way too big. Of course, all of these routes will get the axe if the slot swap ever goes through.

catiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2303 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2154 times:

Quoting SolarFlyer22 (Reply 10):
SW has conquered PVD and they use it in lieu of Logan.

And yet WN also serves BOS from BWI...

pvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3375 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2051 times:

I wonder if any of these flights might switch to CR7's by the time the flights start in April? The BDL-DCA DL flights are currently showing CRJ's too and they've been CR7's since they started them up from what I can recall.

lat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1860 times:

US Navy, government contractors etc. who fill a lot of seats back and forth to DCA will now have a potentially cost saving choice on that route. Additionally some Southern MA DCA passengers, previously siphoned to BOS may creep back.

pvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3375 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

PVD has historically leaked passengers via BOS to places like NYC and WASH. The Acela, hourly shuttles, and price variation are the top causes. I hope this will provide a sliver of relief on 2 of those; being the schedule and the fares.

Between US & DL, there will now be 8 decently spaced choices:

0610 US
0700 DL
0925 US
1015 DL
1150 US
1700 US
1820 DL
1850 US

US used to have a 1430 departure which is the only glaring hole in this schedule.

I'm just so glad DL saw that there was an opportunity here. Maybe they will look at JFK for summer European connections?

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