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Status Of SY Leased Aircraft/fleet  
User currently offlineNWA330nut From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 117 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 11 months 15 hours ago) and read 4409 times:

Hello everyone!

The other day I was at MSP and had a pretty good view of the Humphrey Terminal, were SY, WN, FL, and others operate. I was surprised to see that there was a SY plane in colors that looked like it was from TUI Management. I was aware that SY leased aircraft from Transavia, but this was news to me.



What is the reason for this? Obviously more capacity is needed, but why always leasing? Obviously I am not too familiar with SY strategy.



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User currently offlinespinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 4315 times:

These aircraft are based in Europe where there is more demand in the summer months. In the winter months there is more demand from North America to go south, so it is a win-win for everyone involved.

User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 4 hours ago) and read 4103 times:

The one in the TUI blue colors used to be N811SY so I'm not sure if SY sold/leased it to them and they are now using it for the peak winter travel.

FX1816


User currently offlineNWA330nut From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 117 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 hours ago) and read 4042 times:

Quoting FX1816 (Reply 2):
FX1816


I looked at the picture I took and it looked like OO-JAA

Information regarding the airplane can be found here:

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...ing/737/29660,OO-JAA-Jetairfly.php

It seems as though the aircraft has been in the system for a while ( Search Results ) and it seems as though the movement of the aircraft occurred sometime in October

Quoting spinkid (Reply 1):
These aircraft are based in Europe where there is more demand in the summer months. In the winter months there is more demand from North America to go south, so it is a win-win for everyone involved.

Is it really as simple as this? Do the airlines have some sort of agreement/understanding that this will happen in the future (contract)?

One more: Is this the reason why most other US airlines don't do this? I haven't really seen this in much of the US. I would think that any other airline would just be able to shift capacity, being more national, versus just Minnesota.

Does anybody have a figure on the number of aircraft that SY gets from across the pond?


User currently offlinesunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2057 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months ago) and read 3970 times:

SY has been winter leasing from HV since winter 2002/2003. They get 3 or 4 birds from Oct. to April. SY has never own their planes all are leased. Many airlines don't own their planes anymore but lease instead. SY has even sent a plane to HV for a few weeks during the summer. IIRC they also have 2 HV planes this winter for 3 extra planes in addition to their own 737-700/800's


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User currently offlinekl5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

Quoting sunking737 (Reply 4):
SY has even sent a plane to HV for a few weeks during the summer.

like in summer 2008 N808SY (PH-HSU) 33021/1667 which is now D-APBD with PrivatAir / Lufthansa

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and N807SY (PH-HSV) 33016/1588 which is now also with Private Air / Lufthansa as D-APBC

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User currently offlineplanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3840 times:

Quoting NWA330nut (Reply 3):
Quoting spinkid (Reply 1):
These aircraft are based in Europe where there is more demand in the summer months. In the winter months there is more demand from North America to go south, so it is a win-win for everyone involved.

Is it really as simple as this? Do the airlines have some sort of agreement/understanding that this will happen in the future (contract)?

This happens every year between Europe and North America. Sunwing has leased 12 737-800s from Europe this winter, Jazz has leased six 757-200s from Thomas Cook, Canjet has leased seven 737-800s. USA 3000 used to lease A320s from Europe over the Winter, and Skyservice used to take a number of 757s and A320s every year, sending some of their metal in the other direction over the Summer.

Quoting NWA330nut (Reply 3):
One more: Is this the reason why most other US airlines don't do this?

Its only airlines that have a focus on leisure flights to the Caribbean and Central America, a market that has a significant capacity increase in the Winter months over the Summer, that need the additional capacity. Sunwing operated a fleet of five 737s over the Summer. Now its Winter it has 20 flying between Canada and the 'South'.


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