NWA330nut From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 115 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3347 times:
Hello everyone!
The other day I was at MSP and had a pretty good view of the Humphrey Terminal, were SY, WN, FL, and others operate. I was surprised to see that there was a SY plane in colors that looked like it was from TUI Management. I was aware that SY leased aircraft from Transavia, but this was news to me.
What is the reason for this? Obviously more capacity is needed, but why always leasing? Obviously I am not too familiar with SY strategy.
spinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1002 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3253 times:
These aircraft are based in Europe where there is more demand in the summer months. In the winter months there is more demand from North America to go south, so it is a win-win for everyone involved.
NWA330nut From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 115 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2980 times:
It seems as though the aircraft has been in the system for a while ( Search Results ) and it seems as though the movement of the aircraft occurred sometime in October
Quoting spinkid (Reply 1): These aircraft are based in Europe where there is more demand in the summer months. In the winter months there is more demand from North America to go south, so it is a win-win for everyone involved.
Is it really as simple as this? Do the airlines have some sort of agreement/understanding that this will happen in the future (contract)?
One more: Is this the reason why most other US airlines don't do this? I haven't really seen this in much of the US. I would think that any other airline would just be able to shift capacity, being more national, versus just Minnesota.
Does anybody have a figure on the number of aircraft that SY gets from across the pond?
sunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1936 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2908 times:
SY has been winter leasing from HV since winter 2002/2003. They get 3 or 4 birds from Oct. to April. SY has never own their planes all are leased. Many airlines don't own their planes anymore but lease instead. SY has even sent a plane to HV for a few weeks during the summer. IIRC they also have 2 HV planes this winter for 3 extra planes in addition to their own 737-700/800's
planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4096 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2778 times:
Quoting NWA330nut (Reply 3): Quoting spinkid (Reply 1):
These aircraft are based in Europe where there is more demand in the summer months. In the winter months there is more demand from North America to go south, so it is a win-win for everyone involved.
Is it really as simple as this? Do the airlines have some sort of agreement/understanding that this will happen in the future (contract)?
This happens every year between Europe and North America. Sunwing has leased 12 737-800s from Europe this winter, Jazz has leased six 757-200s from Thomas Cook, Canjet has leased seven 737-800s. USA 3000 used to lease A320s from Europe over the Winter, and Skyservice used to take a number of 757s and A320s every year, sending some of their metal in the other direction over the Summer.
Quoting NWA330nut (Reply 3): One more: Is this the reason why most other US airlines don't do this?
Its only airlines that have a focus on leisure flights to the Caribbean and Central America, a market that has a significant capacity increase in the Winter months over the Summer, that need the additional capacity. Sunwing operated a fleet of five 737s over the Summer. Now its Winter it has 20 flying between Canada and the 'South'.
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