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Presenting UA/CO New 737-800 With Sky Interior  
User currently offlineetops1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1093 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 31552 times:


Brand new Sky Interior on UA/CO 737-800. Delivered today. The seats are leather but are interim due to problems with the seat supplier .Bulk heads dividing First and Main Cabin will be installed in Their maintenance facility in MCO(Orlando)

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User currently offlineYXwatcherMKE From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 31444 times:

Very nice looking interior What is it's Tail/fleet number?


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User currently offlineiahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3442 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 31410 times:
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Will be interesting to see how the DTV processing hardware will be installed .. It's located in the bin above 19DEF in the other 738s. Speaking of DTV, it has NOT been installed in Ships 519-527 because of the seat supplier issue. Yet it IS installed in Ships 443 and 444: the newly delivered 739ERs.   


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User currently offlineetops1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1093 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 31371 times:

Its AC Tail Number #528.

User currently offlineiahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3442 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 31327 times:
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Quoting YXwatcherMKE (Reply 1):
What is it's Tail/fleet number?

This should be Ship 529 ... Ship 528 is being used by Boeing for a test/certification program for a few months.



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8291 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30815 times:

I just realized that's the F class cabin in the front there. Pitiful!

Also- white walls and blue leather seats. Hmm... looks just like USAir and Delta.

CAL is disappointing me daily.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5980 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30806 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 5):
Also- white walls and blue leather seats. Hmm... looks just like USAir and Delta.

Its a leased interior from AS...it will be swapped out eventually.



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8291 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30739 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 6):
Its a leased interior from AS...it will be swapped out eventually.

They're leasing and showcasing a brand new sky interior? I don't understand...



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19786 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30737 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 5):
I just realized that's the F class cabin in the front there. Pitiful!

Also- white walls and blue leather seats. Hmm... looks just like USAir and Delta.

Given that domestic F rarely involves a flight longer than 4-5 hours on a 738, the seating is adequate and is pretty standard for USA domestic F. The soft product is what makes a domestic F product, not the seats.

As far as your complaint about the seats, there are only so many colors available to airlines. The walls are white for a number of good reasons. Blue is a good choice, since it is relaxing and business-like.

In the end, all aircraft interiors from the 707 on look very similar. This one looks really nice for a NB and I have to hand it to Boeing: they really did a great job.

I wonder what UA's company policy will be for the color selection for the LED's.


User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1280 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30684 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 7):
They're leasing and showcasing a brand new sky interior? I don't understand...

The seats, they are leasing the seats, not the entire interior.


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8291 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30660 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
As far as your complaint about the seats, there are only so many colors available to airlines. The walls are white for a number of good reasons. Blue is a good choice, since it is relaxing and business-like.

I liked the soft blue walls and blue checked seats of the old interior. There's nothing wrong with blue or white as a color, it's the fact that it's now all there is. I can't tell the airlines apart anymore, and this is one more incremental step towards the herd for CO.

Quoting Flaps (Reply 9):
The seats, they are leasing the seats, not the entire interior.

Understood.



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User currently offlineeraugrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30634 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
I wonder what UA's company policy will be for the color selection for the LED's.

I dont follow you? Do you mean the color? If so the mood lighting/led are standard in this new interior so the mood lighting is based on time of day i'd assume.

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User currently offlinedbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 888 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30582 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 6):

Its a leased interior from AS...it will be swapped out eventually.

Do we know the timeframe for when the seat distributor will sort everything out and the actual interior installed?


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19786 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30540 times:

Quoting eraugrad02 (Reply 11):

I dont follow you? Do you mean the color? If so the mood lighting/led are standard in this new interior so the mood lighting is based on time of day i'd assume.

You assume, but you do not know. Nor do I. I wonder who does. Someone must.


User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1735 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30523 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
Given that domestic F rarely involves a flight longer than 4-5 hours on a 738, the seating is adequate and is pretty standard for USA domestic F. The soft product is what makes a domestic F product, not the seats.

Maybe you have not flown first class transcontinental on Alaska. This CO 737-800 is a carbon copy of the AS seating interior.

The seats are on loan to Continental in a deal involving Boeing, Alaska and B/E Aerospace - the seat manufacturer. The first class seats are generally despised. It's been editorialized here numerous times and there's also a healthy debate on-going on the Alaska Mileage Plan page at FlyerTalk.

Also, the new 737-900ER deliveries have the new seat supplied by the new seat manufacturer (B/E Aero I believe) that replace the Koito seats that were installed on previous -900ER deliveries. These new seats in the -900ER are TV compatible, unlike the B/E Seats loaned on the -800's.

Koito is no longer supplying seats for Boeing after the recall and admission of fraudulent testing of its seats.

[Edited 2010-12-29 13:13:50]

[Edited 2010-12-29 13:14:26]

User currently offlineATLflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30495 times:

The seats look like they are black and gray leather, no? I think the First looks nice. It is a domestic product and is much better than 3 economy seats with the middle seat blocked like on some carriers.

User currently offlineATLflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 30374 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 6):
Its a leased interior from AS...it will be swapped out eventually.

What will the seats eventually look like? What is the problem with the seat supplier?


User currently offlinemanfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 30332 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 5):
I just realized that's the F class cabin in the front there. Pitiful!

Also- white walls and blue leather seats. Hmm... looks just like USAir and Delta.

CAL is disappointing me daily.

I would think the fact that CO opting to for the sky interior alone would put them in a class by themselves. We have no way of knowing what the final product will look like because they aren't the final seats....Either way, I have confidence CO will remain classy in their execution of colors.

BTW, this just shows that the relationship between Boeing and Continental has its benefts. I'm sure they were one of the first to know about the sky interior when it was introduced and get great deals because of their exclusive relationship. Let's hope that relationshp remains in tact and the "new" United understands its a key part in CO's success.



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User currently offlinewingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2276 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 30173 times:

I'm pretty sure the new UA/CO will be getting just as much attention, loving and swooning from Airbus as CO ever got from Boeing. I believe the company is still the largest operator of Airbus aircraft in the world.

User currently offlinewingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2276 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 30069 times:

I also have to agree with anyone saying this "intro" is rather odd given that this is not CO's true product. I think the seats are very much top of mind when it comes to first impressions of a new interior, and certainly the first class seats needed an upgrade at CO. Not sure why they either didn't wait for the true product to go public or simply CGI it for now.

User currently offlineeraugrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 29377 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
You assume, but you do not know. Nor do I. I wonder who does. Someone must.

The mood lighting was invented to reduce jetlag. Im sure it will be used to comfort the passengers like they were made to do. Why use the day light or dust lighting at night while mose people are ing sleeping mode?

Desmond in ILM,



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User currently offlineDrewski2112 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 29029 times:

I was under the assumption there weren't going to be any problems with seats on the Sky Interior planes. I guess not.

Quoting ATLflyer (Reply 16):
What is the problem with the seat supplier?

Read up: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...tals-boeing-delivery-schedule.html


User currently onlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 28404 times:

Only two rows of F are shown. The CO 737-800s trypically have run with 3 rows of 2x2. Is there a third row of seats, out of view, behind the photgrapher?

The leased AS seats look a bit thin-backed. Can anyone who has sampled them provide some feedback? I gather they're not liked by a large segment of travelers.


User currently offlinehughw From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 28250 times:

CO 737-800s, depending on configuration, have either 4 or 5 rows of 2x2 seating, not 3 rows.

User currently onlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 28037 times:

Quoting hughw (Reply 24):
CO 737-800s, depending on configuration, have either 4 or 5 rows of 2x2 seating, not 3 rows.

OK thanks. I guess I was thinking of the -300s (now history). Either way, I do not see 4 or 5 rows in the pic, so either there are at least two rows behind the camera, or they cut back (it's hard to discern how close we are to the forward bulkhead).


25 warreng24 : Technically this is a CO aircraft (not a UA aircraft), correct? It is a B737-824. It is NOT a B737-822. In fact, because the operating certificates ha
26 FlyASAGuy2005 : Last I heard was 2012. Until then, all new 737 deliveries will NOT have TVs.
27 USXguy : I've only flown in First class on Alaska's newer interior... and its OK... I kinda like the bulkier F seats found in the 737-400s, but hey, its a bigg
28 n7371f : The 900ER's are suppose to come delivered with the new, permanent seat and have Live TV installed at MCO prior to in-service. Not sure how far out th
29 CALPSAFltSkeds : What's the difference between the 738 and 739ER have to do with seats? I'm sure there's a reason, but doesn't the 739ER just have a few more rows - w
30 United1 : The 900ERs come standard with winglets (you can't order them without) so Boeing installs them...on the 800s its an option and while I'm sure Boeing w
31 drerx7 : The -900ERs are aircraft with winglets standard, not mods like the original doglegged -900s. As far as the seats I'd like to understand why the diffe
32 USAirALB : Are the life-raft containers not over the aisle like on ordinary 73Gs?
33 ual757 : Actually, no. AS F seats are the most uncomfortable in the industry. Your back will hurt after a 4-5 hour flight on AS up front. UA/AA have the bette
34 ThunderB : I would assume that they have been relegated back to the overheads, that is if they are needed for overland flights. with the more roomy lockers, they
35 USAirALB : I think all CO 73Gs are EOW, as they tend to rotate around the system. I would think airlines, and passengers alike would rather have them be stowed
36 Post contains images EA CO AS : In your opinion. I've flown in these F seats on AS many times, many on flights exceeding 5 hours, and found them to be very comfortable!
37 UAL747DEN : I don't really get it, it's an airplane, just like the tubes that DL, US, and everyone else flies. Your not going to find anything much different ins
38 n7371f : I always thought that until...Boeing started delivering the dozens (about 70 I think) of 737-800's ordered by Delta that were never used by Delta. De
39 kparke777 : The largest operator of Airbus aircraft by any US carrier is US Airways with 230 or so while UA has over 150.
40 Blueman87 : Love the Photo thanks
41 Post contains images deltal1011man : but Delta only sold 32 of the 34 738s they had on order. (and used the money to but 30 CR9s/10 73Gs and to exit BK) They do still have ~70 options.
42 IAHFLYR : Currently most of the CO B738's have 4 rows of First Class seating. There used to be a few of them that had 5 rows but IIRC those have been changed t
43 n7371f : There should still be 20 738's flying in the F20Y132. These aircraft also have the mid-cabin lavatory. Ships 260-278.
44 Post contains images ual757 : I'm not new to the seats - I don't know how you can like them! The older F seats that are on a few of the 734s are wonderful, as well as the F seats
45 Post contains images iahcsr : Close ... Ships 260-277 .. Last I heard, the plan is to remove the Mid-Lav and reconfigure them to the standard 16/144.. Installing DTV at the same t
46 FlyASAGuy2005 : Well this is contrary to what CO put out on their internal site back in August. Basically said they were having issues with their seat supplier and a
47 CALPSAFltSkeds : That's why I suggest converting the Pacific config 764s to European and move several UA 763ER domestic config aircraft onto EWR-HNL, IAH-HNL, GUM-HNL
48 Post contains images iahcsr : That would work for me...
49 TOMMY767 : I love the mood lighting but the overhead bins look smallish (must be the photo.) Anybody know why they are leasing out the AS interior? Why can't CO
50 Post contains images cschleic : Oh no, maybe this will start rumors about UA/CO buying AS. Bring on those threads!
51 DTWAGENT : What ever people. I like the new look. It looks like there is alot more room in this cabin compaired to other B737's Just my 2 cents folks. Chuck
52 COalways : This Aircraft looks good, wonder if CO is testing out the new leather interoir to be adopted through out the combined fleet, looks like they used a a
53 flyhossd : It's my understanding that the -800s and -900s (both -900s and -900ERs) have different seats in the coach cabin. The seats problem is a problem for t
54 ATLflyer : I just flew Continental's "old" First last night and have to say the seat was very comfortable for the 3 hour flight. Nice size PTV and nice leather..
55 ual757 : CO should have a PDB, at least in my experience. They don't have pillows, and blankets are on request only.
56 andrewuber : Are these the aircraft that have been parked at BFI and RNT for months? Glad to see they're finally flying!
57 ckfred : Gone are the 60s and 70s with patterns on the walls and bright seat fabrics with stripes and other patterns. I remember when 707s had wall coverings
58 STT757 : No, those aircraft all entered service back in July and August.
59 B727LVR : Agreed! Those bins dont look very deep. Hopefully it is just the picture, there is barely enough room in the bins being used now!
60 sxf24 : Its not clear if they will ever return to manufacturing seats. The bins are larger than current bins.
61 chrisair : They're dark blue. There are no US carriers that I know of that block middle seats and sell that as a "first class" product. They are. I don't find t
62 UAL747DEN : I guess my point is that the customer code part of the aircraft type (737-8XX) doesn't really show who currently owns that aircraft. The number never
63 ATLflyer : That is good to hear. Maybe they did not give pillows and blankets because the flight was already delayed an hour and they were trying to turn around
64 ATLflyer : I was referring to the European First Class.
65 n7371f : I was told a few years ago by someone who oversees the MCO maintenance base that CO bought conversion kits for the -800's in its fleet at time (prior
66 CALTECH : There are 4 rows on ACFT #529 up front. Registration is to Continental Airlines. Not sure when conversions will take place. Acft #529, #443 and #444
67 Viscount724 : Business class, not First.
68 CALPSAFltSkeds : Is this why CO has stopped taking so many 739ERs? I would have thought CO would want to take almost exclusively 739ERs once introduced as they provid
69 iahcsr : Hmmm... Yet when I looked at the 'PL' in Shares for 443/4, it showed 'Live TV' .. well have a look at it again tomorrow..
70 FL787 : I can confirm they do not have LiveTV. I saw 443 at IAH earlier this evening and it did not have the "hump".
71 VC10er : I think it's a bit Georgia O'Keeffee AND beautiful - yes, let's hope "the world's leading airline" takes the seats to a place suitable for the interio
72 robo65 : There used to be three configurations for CO738's. 16/141 - 16/144 - 20/132. The 16/141 has been changed to 16/144. The 20/132 capacity is still in s
73 Post contains images 328JET : It is really amazing how excited a lot of people are about the new B737-interior... Was there the same hype when Boeing introduced the B777-interior t
74 PlanesNTrains : It's just killing you, isn't it? Are all the mid-cabin-lav aircraft post-delivery mod's? I ask because someone that I know in the 737 program (engine
75 328JET : Absolutely not, as i mentioned before. I like it, but it is just an interior. Did we discuss about every nice and amzing interior in BBJs? I doubt it
76 iahcsr : No, All 18 aircraft (Ships 260-277) where delivered from Boeing as such. It was the intention at the time that this would be the standard conf. for a
77 zippyjet : Happy New Year to all: Is this new interior design going to be featured on any other Boeing 737-800's for other carriers WN, FL come to mind. The ceil
78 STT757 : So far the only US carriers that will have the Sky Interior will be CO/UA and AA.
79 sxf24 : WN deliveries will have the Sky Interior.
80 Post contains images malaysia : Me too, they may seem narrower than some F domestic seats, but they have a sort of individual business class seat feel, I feel like I have more perso
81 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : Sigh...Ok, we'll stop talking about it. Thanks for the info. Not sure why he wouldn't have known about it, but pre-9/11 he did some work on the milit
82 328JET : I did not say nobody should talk about it, but it is just an interior, which is nothing special. It is not like Boeing changed the wing profile and a
83 Post contains images CALTECH : Have to get new kits for the new seats. No kits were bought, they came that way from Boeing and the non mid-lav config comes from Boeing and is the s
84 n7371f : Correct. I was referring to the -800's delivered prior to the mid-lavs coming from Boeing. The discussion was they were going to order kits to go all
85 CALTECH : That may have been, just saying no kits were seen around here. Never heard of any being bought for the earlier -800s, kinda liked the mid- lavs thoug
86 FriendlySkies : Does this mean there is no possibility of retro-fitting CO's existing 737 fleet with the new interior? If it is possible, anybody know of any plans t
87 Viscount724 : According to Boeing, it's only available on new-build aircraft due to structural issues.
88 iahcsr : Ship 529 was sitting at IAH E12 for several hours yesterday thanks to ORD ATC so I, among many others, had time to check it out. Very nice. The lighti
89 Post contains images RobK : Anyone know what's wrong with 528? Boeing computer now shows it down for an August 2011 delivery. 529 is already delivered and in service...
90 STT757 : Is that the aircraft Boeing is using for performance enhancement tests?..
91 seabosdca : That is your opinion. Not everyone shares it. As someone who (like most people in the U.S.) flies almost exclusively in narrowbodies, I think pivot b
92 Post contains images iahcsr : Yes
93 COalways : Even though they can't convert the older 737 and 757 into the new Boeing Sky Interior, can't they jus install the mood lighting on the older models? K
94 Post contains images iahcsr : Ship 529 has been Out of Service in EWR since the morning of the 14th. Reason: 'Interior Lights Inop' . ETR :' Parts plus 4 hours' So the question is
95 XT6Wagon : The new bins should make for a far easier game of "overhead bin tetris", The ablity to fit even the large "carryon" roller bags wheels first will mas
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