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Whats Next?..Jamaican Thread #35  
User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3153 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 15644 times:
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Welcome to the 35th edition of our thread.....



A symbol of Jamaica's National Pride..


This time, last year, there was an air of sadness over our aviation industry...

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/IMG00231-20100814-1004.jpg

PM Golding announced,our beloved "Lovebird" was being sold.....On May 1, 2010 to Caribbean Airlines of Trinidad was officially in control of JM...
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/31690_429185836553_787491553_5668506_1650332_n.jpg

According to the deal between The Manning led Government and The JLP, Caribbean Airlines will be financially responsible for JM and would only acquire profitable routes.....Caribbean Airlines would inject US50 million into JM for capital and operating expenditures...
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/untitled2-1.jpg

There was a change in Command at Port of Spain..The Kamla led PP, assure the Jamaican PM, the deal is good and it will be honoured by Trinidad....Less than one year, after the "done deal", there are rumours in the media, recommendations were made to Trinidad to walk away from the JM deal after April, 2011......


Where does this leave our "beloved carrier"??




More info can be found in the old thread..

The Hummingbird Soars..Jamaican Thread 34.. (by hummingbird Nov 16 2010 in Civil Aviation)


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User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 15677 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Thread starter):
Where does this leave our "beloved carrier"??

Nice revision to livery. Sure this is official


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9995 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 15666 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 1):
Nice revision to livery. Sure this is official

Indeed a nice livery, let's wait and see if this livery will actually make its way to a JM aircraft. I will be waiting for this new livery here in Curacao...  

A388


User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 15620 times:
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Bleeech! doctor bird is in complete. Does not fit a 737-800.

User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 15590 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 2):

I agree. Now lets see what CAL will do with theirs when a repaint of their planes is scheduled.


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 15582 times:
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Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 1):
Nice revision to livery. Sure this is official

This was the proposal from their marketing department....The new board will have the decision..



According to Will Rodgers, the deal between JM and CAL will continue and will not be scrapped..

http://go-jamaica.com/news/read_article.php?id=25360


Family of 8 stranded at NMIA..
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...-the-way-to-the-plane-door_8260622



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2568 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15539 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Thread starter):
Welcome to the 35th edition of our thread.....



I like that close up shot of JM's A320 ( or is it an A321 ? ) at KIN.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 5):
Family of 8 stranded at NMIA..



Quite a mess for that family of 8 and many others due to the recent bad weather in the North East USA and Canada.



greenheart
User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15521 times:
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Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 6):
I like that close up shot of JM's A320 ( or is it an A321 ? ) at KIN.

Its an A320 that was enroute to NAS...

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 6):
Quite a mess for that family of 8 and many others due to the recent bad weather in the North East USA and Canada.

I thought B6 and AA had an interline agreement..One would expect B6 to transfer these pax thru MIA on AA....
With flights being overbooked till Jan, looks like B6 is doing well on it's double daily to KIN...


On another note, The JM FAs who have been trained on the B738, are being rotated on BW's flights through JFK and YYZ..The feedback I am getting is the JFK flights are normally filled with GEO based paxs, especially the one that leaves POS at 5:30pm....



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User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 15511 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 1):
Nice revision to livery. Sure this is official

I like the revision done, but I'm curious as to why the hummingbird on the tail is a "half". The whole bird, like on the current livery, would more complement the new look in my opinion.



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2568 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 15445 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 1):
Nice revision to livery.
Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
Indeed a nice livery, let's wait and see if this livery will actually make its way to a JM aircraft. I will be waiting for this new livery here in Curacao
Quoting LimaMike (Reply 8):
I like the revision done

For me I think the new JM livery is '' OK ''. It still catches the eye, but not in the same manner as the current one in my opinion.

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 3):
Bleeech! doctor bird is in complete. Does not fit a 737-800.
Quoting LimaMike (Reply 8):
I'm curious as to why the hummingbird on the tail is a "half". The whole bird, like on the current livery, would more complement the new look in my opinion.

My guess is that they wanted to make the doctor bird as bold as possible on the tail and as such, they did a larger version of it compared to the one on the current JM livery resulting in part of the tails not being included. Notice how the humming bird on BW is displayed on the B738 tails. Virtually the entire bird is shown, but instead of placing the entire body/wings on the tail only, they placed the head and body on the fuselage, while only the wings are displayed on the aircraft tail. This gives their logo a much bolder effect.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 7):
Its an A320 that was enroute to NAS...

Look like 6Y-JMK, but probably not.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 7):
I thought B6 and AA had an interline agreement..One would expect B6 to transfer these pax thru MIA on AA....
With flights being overbooked till Jan, looks like B6 is doing well on it's double daily to KIN...

Guess AA's JFK/LGA flights out of MIA are jam packed as well with the usual peak holiday traffic and backlog of displaced passengers from the chaos that ensued as a result of the snow storm.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 7):
With flights being overbooked till Jan, looks like B6 is doing well on it's double daily to KIN...

They must be asking themselves why on earth they took so long to start JFK-KIN and JFK-MBJ...... 



greenheart
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6344 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15379 times:

the JM livery jsut doesn't look right on the 738 after it being on the 320/321


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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9995 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15368 times:

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 9):
For me I think the new JM livery is '' OK ''. It still catches the eye, but not in the same manner as the current one in my opinion.

I totally agree with you. It still stands out but not in the same way as the current JM livery does. It would have been better if the exact colors and cheatlines were used as the current JM livery but in the wavy matter as done on this newly proposed livery.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 10):
the JM livery jsut doesn't look right on the 738 after it being on the 320/321

I can see what you mean, it does look different on the 738. I also found the current JM livery to be strange looking on their 727's in the past. But even so, I'm okay with it.

A388


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15298 times:
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Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 9):
Guess AA's JFK/LGA flights out of MIA are jam packed as well with the usual peak holiday traffic and backlog of displaced passengers from the chaos that ensued as a result of the snow storm

Hope they find a quick resolution for this family...

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 9):
Look like 6Y-JMK, but probably not

It could possibly be JMK..

BTW, Former JM A320 6Y-JAF cn 624 will be scrapped for parts this week....

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 9):
They must be asking themselves why on earth they took so long to start JFK-KIN and JFK-MBJ......

The icing on the cake would be a 3rd daily for both cities next summer..

Looks like the new JM livery will be showcased during the last week of Jan....Between Jan 16-21, an A320 will operate JFK-MBJ-KIN-MBJ-FLL-MBJ-JFK segments, while the B738 is painted...I heard BGI may be painted in the new livery...



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2568 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15274 times:

For the 11th consecutive year, Jamaica again was voted the Caribbean's best selling destination by readers of the travel magazine '' Recommend '' .


'' I hope I will not sound too proud, but Jamaica has the best product in the Caribbean -- our infrastructure, our airports, our roads to major resort areas, our hotels, Lynch said and complimented the private sector as he pointed out that the hotels ; also have a very close working relationship with travel agents ''


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/business/Ja-wins-again-_8262281


Every island in the Caribbean have their own uniqueness about them, but the article above once again highlight the hard work that Ed and the JTB/Jamvac have been doing continuously, securing additional airlift to the island etc. Nice note on which to ring out 2010 and welcome 2011, where we anticipate even bigger and better results for our tourism industry.


It is being reported that AA received the '' largest slice of the pie '' where post '' Dudus '' contracts to fly in 2000 travel agents in an effort to restore the island's image after the much publicised disturbance in Tivoli Gardens earlier this year.


''
AA's contracts totalled some $12.7 million to fly agents to cover two core events. It represented three times the value of similar contracts to Air Jamaica at some $4.3 million based on just contracts posted this month by the Office of Contractor General.

Great Adventures Travel Tours received the second highest contracts at $9.5 million followed by Air Tran at $7.1 million and Jet Blue at $6 million.


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...t--Dudus--tourism-campaign_8259043


It is no surprise that AA was awarded the bulk of these contracts, considering their historical ties with Jamaica and their very extensive network of flights and connectivity to both KIN and MBJ, when compared to the other carriers serving the island.

Quoting A388 (Reply 11):
It would have been better if the exact colors and cheatlines were used as the current JM livery

Agree here as well.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 10):
the JM livery jsut doesn't look right on the 738 after it being on the 320/321
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 3):
Does not fit a 737-800.

The A320s/A321s sport their '' coloful '' livery much better I think.

Quoting A388 (Reply 11):
I also found the current JM livery to be strange looking on their 727's in the past.

Yes, the A320s/A321s also wore their current livery far better than their predecessers ( B727s ). Probably it is because of how the B727 is designed, particularly at the tail end. That B727 pictured was the very first aircraft to be adorned in the new JM livery ( Butch era ) if I recall correctly. Followed by the A300s. My pet peeve with that B727 back then was how they drew the doctor bird on its tail. Very poor work done by that graphic artist as the bird is looking quite crooked....lol.



greenheart
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6344 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 15242 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 12):
The icing on the cake would be a 3rd daily for both cities next summer..

Ain't going to happen. B6 as put all further caribbean expansion on hold until 2012 to focus all available free assets on the "developing opportunity in SJU" (read AA understanding)

Having said that thinking outside the box....maybe they would do a SJU-KIN....



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15170 times:
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Happy New Year Everyone...Lets us now look forward to an interesting year in Jamaica's avaition idustry..Expect new flights from new markets..Also, I would persoanlly like to introduce KIN newest carrier, Redjet, which is expected to launch service in Jan 2011...
Wishing Redjet all the success with their Caribbean operations....
Pics taken from their FB page..

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/155751_110124905723228_109607999108252_72861_6262803_n.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/149090_110122495723469_109607999108252_72789_7901071_n.jpg

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http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/69577_113736642028721_109607999108252_97400_933723_n.jpg

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 13):
I hope I will not sound too proud, but Jamaica has the best product in the Caribbean -- our infrastructure, our airports, our roads to major resort areas, our hotels, Lynch said and complimented the private sector as he pointed out that the hotels ; also have a very close working relationship with travel agents ''

No need for apologies..The JTB team has worked hard to develop the tourism industry to a world class product..What we are seeing is the fruits of their labour...

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 13):
Every island in the Caribbean have their own uniqueness about them, but the article above once again highlight the hard work that Ed and the JTB/Jamvac have been doing continuously, securing additional airlift to the island etc. Nice note on which to ring out 2010 and welcome 2011, where we anticipate even bigger and better results for our tourism industry.

Agree..

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 13):
AA's contracts totalled some $12.7 million to fly agents to cover two core events. It represented three times the value of similar contracts to Air Jamaica at some $4.3 million based on just contracts posted this month by the Office of Contractor General

I can see why AA has a larger share in this budget...Their network scope is able to connect Jamaica to more international destinations.....JM's share is evidence, they are playing a small role in the industry...

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 14):
Having said that thinking outside the box....maybe they would do a SJU-KIN....

Only with an E190...

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 12):
Looks like the new JM livery will be showcased during the last week of Jan....Between Jan 16-21, an A320 will operate JFK-MBJ-KIN-MBJ-FLL-MBJ-JFK segments, while the B738 is painted...I heard BGI may be painted in the new livery...

Correction..JMA will be painted..



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2568 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 15060 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 14):
Having said that thinking outside the box....maybe they would do a SJU-KIN....
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 15):
Only with an E190...




But is there that much of a market between KIN and SJU generally ?

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 12):
The icing on the cake would be a 3rd daily for both cities next summer..




Maybe time to come they will atleast throw in an additional JFK-MBJ-KIN-JFK / JFK-KIN-MBJ-JFK flight to complement their regular nonstops if demand for their services warrant it. I am certain they will beef up both KIN and MBJ accordingly when the need arises.



greenheart
User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 15057 times:
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Quoting hummingbird (Reply 12):
TW, Former JM A320 6Y-JAF cn 624 will be scrapped for parts this week....

Correction it is 6Y-JAG cn 626. Was stored at Mexico City maintenance for over one year in moist air. Mexicana's bankruptcy did not help the situation as they were the maintenance contractors.


User currently offlinejm079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 15054 times:

Welcome to 2011 guys, we are starting off the year bursting with confidence unlike last year in which huge amount of uncertainty was the order of the day with respect to our national carrier.

Suffice to say with the sale of Air Jamaica has met all of our criteria:

1/ Out of government hands and off the public treasury

2/ Owned by another carrier with huge amount of capital

3/ Maintain and promote the Air Jamaica brand

The news out of POS is even better as come January 14 Air Jamaica is set to launch a new image and announce there plans for an expansion.

NEW AIRPORT:

In the last thread I pointed out that the South Coast is to get a new airport but this time around it is going to be run privately. Butch Stewart is in talks with the government to either lease or purchase the small landing facility at Holland Bamboo with the intention to open a privately run aerodrome.

Don't for get that Butch has his hotel in the area and he is also in talks to buy the property which he now leased under his Sandal brand.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 15):

It is so blatantly clear that REDjet has copied Digicel marketing strategic when entering a new market.

Well, if it works once why not keep on using it.

But I wish them well and I look forward to the competitions within the region.

BTW: do you notice how Caribbean Airlines has added a huge amount of capacity on the KIN to POS bridge.

It would be a good idea if a hourly shuttle could be establish between the two capitals (KIN - POS) using one of those ATRs that will be coming this year.


User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 15042 times:
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Quoting jm079 (Reply 18):
ould be a good idea if a hourly shuttle could be establish between the two capitals (KIN - POS) using one of those ATRs that will be coming this year.

ATRs would not do well on this mission. Performance is far inferior to large jets on these fairly long overwater sectors. Secondly there is not enough market to support a 66 seater every hour.


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 14990 times:
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Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 16):
But is there that much of a market between KIN and SJU generally ?

If marketed properly, you may see less than 50 per flight....

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 16):
Maybe time to come they will atleast throw in an additional JFK-MBJ-KIN-JFK / JFK-KIN-MBJ-JFK flight to complement their regular nonstops if demand for their services warrant it. I am certain they will beef up both KIN and MBJ accordingly when the need arises.

Would love to see such a rotation..Am still baffled as to why they would put so much resource in a SJU base....

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 17):
Correction it is 6Y-JAG cn 626. Was stored at Mexico City maintenance for over one year in moist air. Mexicana's bankruptcy did not help the situation as they were the maintenance contractors.

Thanks..

Quoting jm079 (Reply 18):
3/ Maintain and promote the Air Jamaica brand

At least this BOD has common sense....

Quoting jm079 (Reply 18):
In the last thread I pointed out that the South Coast is to get a new airport but this time around it is going to be run privately. Butch Stewart is in talks with the government to either lease or purchase the small landing facility at Holland Bamboo with the intention to open a privately run aerodrome.

Knowing Butch, am pretty sure this area will see benefits from this investment..

Quoting jm079 (Reply 18):
But I wish them well and I look forward to the competitions within the region.

Agree..

Quoting jm079 (Reply 18):
BTW: do you notice how Caribbean Airlines has added a huge amount of capacity on the KIN to POS bridge.

11 WEEKLY flights, with huge discounts...Am waiting to see who will be victorious in this blood battle...



Here is a breakdown of today's flights from Canada..

YYZ-MBJ

JZA 2 B753
TS A333/ A310
AC B763
WS 2 B738
SWG B738

YUL-MBJ
TS A310
JZA B752
AC A319

YOW-MBJ
WS B738
JZA B752
AC E190

YHZ-MBJ
JZA B752

YWG-MBJ
AC A319
WS B73H

Other WS flights..
YYC

Who is the carrier?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VPCNI



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9995 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 14991 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 20):
Who is the carrier?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VPCNI



VPCNI is the registration of the aircraft so it should be easy to trace...  

A388


User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14921 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 21):
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 20):
Who is the carrier?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VPCNI



VPCNI is the registration of the aircraft so it should be easy to trace...

A388

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User currently offlineSpeedbird2263 From Jamaica, joined Jul 2006, 472 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 14895 times:

The A300 Tail at the round-about has begun its transformation overnight; when I left NMIA at about 2200 last night it was still a plain solid blue. This morning arriving at the NMIA at 0750 with one of the new hire FO's we were quite nicely surprised to see the trasformative process in full swing.  It was a great feeling to feel proud of JM again. I think the new colours are going to be great and folks will grow to love it. The hummingbird has been updated to fit on the entire tail. It's not done yet however so I anxiously await a completed "flagtail" of our reborn JM. Hopefully someone can get a decent shot and post it.

Viva La Lovebird!!

-2263



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User currently offlinejm079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 14841 times:

Quoting Speedbird2263 (Reply 23):

So the fin of the old A300 will be painted in the new motiff of Air Jamaica?

I had thought that they were removing the old fin from the round about due to the work that has started on the highway to expand it to four lanes.

But lets see if this is what is actually happening.

BTW:

The new board of CAL announced that LHR is back this year as they are in discussion to secure slots at London?

Are they really serious?

The previous board indicated that the focus will be to build a regional operation and as such all the strategic moves so far indicates that they are moving along that line. The previous chairman talked about moving into South America where there exist a market for growth or to exploit.


They have acquired planes to full fill that mission and has acquired JM to strengthened that position.

The current climate with respect to how CAL will be competitive on the London to Port of Spain route has not changed since they pull out a few years ago.

So unless CAL is moving to get into leisure market in order to complement its O&D market then I don't see how they can make that move.

This move is purely political and makes no economic sense because if BA can't offer a direct non stop service then I don's see how CAL can do it.

London for a CAL will be a money loser and heavily subsidised.

Even if CAL decided to get into leisure market for Tobago it has no synergies in place to leverage the earning potential of the tourism sector as so far it is not working with any UK or European tour operators to funnel passengers into Tobago. Further more, Tobago has an image problem that so far no one is addressing.

In the broad scheme of things this is really a bad move as the carrier needs to focus on building its base.

More and more I am convinced that these people don't know what they are doing.


25 Post contains images Inbound : Ohhh, we have to see that. I don't have any KIN flights this roster, so waiting on that pic patiently. As I mentioned in the other thread, I think 9Y
26 Post contains images speedbird2263 : Happy New Year Brother! -2263
27 yellowtail : I see CM upgraded PAP...still no love for the higglers in KIN! Panama City – Port au Prince eff 15JUN11 Increase from 2 to 4 weekly with schedule ch
28 Post contains images A388 : Thank I Inbound!!! Happy New Year to you too brother!!! Let's hope Caribbean Airlines or Air Jamaica will start flights to Curacao this year... A388
29 hummingbird : Thanks..Looks like it was corporate charter for an incentive group.... I was told, it will be repainted on spot... When I see it, I will believe it..
30 Post contains images A388 : And will it start flying the KIN-CUR route immediately upon arrival in KIN? Just kidding, I just hope to see it myself one day (coming from a sad spo
31 2travel2know2 : Tell that to the CUR store owners who keep buying from Colon Duty Free Zone. China only takes wholesalers seriously, Caribbean Higglers (no ofense) a
32 Post contains images LimaMike : Behold:
33 Post contains links and images A388 : Thanks for sharing that photo with us LimaMike. I'm a bit disappointed in that paintjob I must say. It's different that shown on the artist impressio
34 Post contains images speedbird2263 : Aye Aye Skip!! All ahead full, batten the hatches, stir the stew, anchors arise and be cursed a Landlubber!! The Lovebird Flies -2263
35 AirJamaica : Great photo there of the repainted JM A300 tail at the Manley roundabout. Observations: 1. Doctorbird has been re-sized to fully fit the tail contrar
36 Post contains images A388 : Yes, you got a good point there too. An enlarged hummingbird logo will fit the smaller 737 tail better. Fly to Curacao so I can judge it in real time
37 Post contains images A388 : Yesterday it crossed my mind that the newly proposed JM livery is practically identical to this livery: All of a sudden I find the new JM livery very
38 hummingbird : These are the stats for MBJ...June 2010 JM BWI-MBJ 3676-1894 52% MBJ-BWI 3826-1870 49% FLL-MBJ 4804-3747-78% MBJ-FLL 4804-3997 83% JFK-MBJ 4842-3496-
39 AA1818 : Very healthy loads all 'round...except... Let's hope this route picked up in the period Jun to Dec. I am looking forward to route expansion by both B
40 Post contains images AirJamaica : Hopefully the incumbents will hear your plea Didn't even remember that FJ was still in operation, but yes their exists a striking resemblance between
41 yankeejuliet : This was mainly due to a schedule change which was not convenient to travellers. FL took the prime slot and got all the business from this lucrative
42 yankeejuliet : The doctor bird has been re-captured and placed in his old circular cage.
43 Post contains links jm079 : Carribean Airlines want to fly from Jamaica to London, England. In a release tonight the carrier issued a statementto address the growing uncertainty
44 AirJamaica : Changing the BWI-MBJ flight from am to pm did not appeal to the travelers at all. This applied to those who originated in the US and those that origi
45 A388 : Interesting times ahead apparently. I really hope they know what they are doing and that the London route will be a success for them. In any case, it
46 jm079 : I have to agree with you on this one but lets see what is reveal on January 14 as so far the people who makes decision seems quite not sure what they
47 hummingbird : Hopefully a new CEO will funnel these activities......Leave it to politicians, we will see the carrier playing hopscoth on routes... Also, increasing
48 A388 : I can see your view as well, this is why I hope they know what they are doing and hope the London route will become a success. With regards to their
49 beeweel15 : Lets hope we see both
50 yankeejuliet : Lets hope its an A330 in JM's colours. This could help to restore brand loyalty, enhance business to JM, see the return of some of our best pilots wh
51 Post contains links speedbird2263 : 2011 as we all have the gut feeling, is going to be a much better year than 2010 was for Global Aviation. Here's to hoping that Caribbean Aviation on
52 A388 : Talking about cargo, what happened to that Chinese company that was believed to start cargo flight from China to Jamaica via Spain. I believe it was
53 Post contains links AirJamaica : Thats the thing with LGW/LHR. Each airport offers something ( s ) that the other dont. LGW is a far more cost effective airport to operate out of, bu
54 yellowtail : true for jsut about every airline except CM POS has BA, just like KIN and MBJ
55 yankeejuliet : 9Y-JMA is 10 years old. All but two aircraft on JM fleet is less than 10 years. 6Y-JAD is 3.5 years.
56 Post contains images speedbird2263 : Joe Public doesn't have a clue how old the aircraft really are so its just PR. The only thing the 738 has over the A320 is a bit more range however I
57 yankeejuliet : I will go along with that. I agree that this statement is a PR stunt. I will not further comment as this can lead to another A vs B episode, however
58 Post contains links jm079 : I spoke to Hummingbird recently and expressed the view that the decision to start and maintain a Jamaica thread was and is valid as Jamaica has a thr
59 A388 : So Caribbean Airlines is going for second hand 738's as aircraft replacement for the JM fleet? Is this a temporary solution until brandnew 738's have
60 Post contains images speedbird2263 : IMHO I don't think we'll be seeing any new metal, as I fail to see why CAL would order new birds for JM and not replace their own. I think honestly i
61 A388 : If Caribbean Airlines can make a sweeter deal by acquiring/leasing more brandnew 738's for both their own fleet and JM's fleet, then why not? The mor
62 AirJamaica : Jamaica ( both KIN and MBJ ) is a totally different playing ground than POS. A very big PR stunt indeed directed at John Public as JM's airbus fleet
63 beeweel15 : Looking back your entire A340-300 fleet was delivered to JM second hand: MSN-48 First flight - 26 April 1994 Delivered - 18 May 1994 to Air Mauritius
64 AirJamaica : The entire A340 fleet were all second hand birds and even back then they weren't that old either. No. Prefer to leave it to those in a much better po
65 Post contains links and images hummingbird : I was reliably informed, the JM pilots are now happy since they recieved an increase on their salary..They have now accepted the terms of the B738 tr
66 yankeejuliet : JM had the most modern fleet in the Caribbean and Latin America. I hope we can boast this PR stunt again, as it did help to boost load factors.
67 a340jamaica : The range/payload issue was not as critical for JM as it is for CAL, hence the A320/321 worked quite well for JM. JM's routes on average are shorter
68 Post contains images A388 : This sounds good but I want it to actually happen. I've seen it several times that airlines applied to start KIN-CUR and PAP-CUR operations and none
69 jm079 : Most of you will remember CANJET with that incident in Mo'bay. Well, the federal government here in Canada has changed the designation of CANJET from
70 AirJamaica : Reminds me of the YYZ route. MBJ-YYZ would also be a good sector for JM, but with the presence of the many charters ( with carriers such as WS now sc
71 hummingbird : Air Salsa was the other carrier that applied for KIN-CUR frequencies, however, it looks like their plans are now on hold...Exec Direct has already re
72 Post contains links AirJamaica : Would have been great if the WhiteJet deal had materialize, but myself think G3 is a better choice for GRU-MBJ with all the connections they could of
73 A388 : What aircraft type will they use? The name doesn't tell me anything which is why I'm skeptical about this. It sounds like another of those companies
74 Post contains links hummingbird : My predictions are for Nov/Dec 2011... Looks like they are targetting the Spring Breakers.....Gone are the days when MBJ would be busy from 11:00pm-5
75 yankeejuliet : During the "Butch Stewart' era JM 010 would often make un-scheduled stops in PHL or BWI to take Spring Breakers to MBJ. Service was operated with A31
76 AirJamaica : This must have been very annoying for passengers who booked JM 010 JFK-MBJ and were expecting a nonstop flight as planned. If it was a stop due to me
77 yankeejuliet : I can remember some A320 nite bird services to BWI,
78 hummingbird : Also, during the early 2000s, the flights would operate their regualr service to these cities, then return to MBJ then back up north to operate the s
79 speedbird2263 : I can't wait for the new birds to come on stream and for their marketing strategy to get off to a strong start. This is the perfect time to get it ri
80 hummingbird : I realise this new board is going all out to capture the previous momentum...In this case, JM has all my blessing...
81 A388 : Let me guess, the Saab 340 of Salsa Air... I mean, are they serious? A Saab 340 on a route from KIN to CUR? Really? I welcome them but everybody know
82 Post contains images speedbird2263 : Just this past Christmas Insel Air utilized the services of IBC with their Saab 340 and so did Cayman Airways to deliver excess bags and cargo that w
83 AirJamaica : Come to think of it I do recall a few night rotations to BWI when I used to work there, but since I was so acustom to additional night flights to/fro
84 Post contains links jm079 : I share your enthusiasm and really feel that JM is on the path of something major. Common sense says it is in CAL interest to make sure there investm
85 AirJamaica : It is good that the JM brand will be retained as it is a very strong one indeed. I think it is safe to say that KIN-ATL, KIN-CUR, KIN-HAV & KIN-G
86 windian425 : Hoping that CAL/JM will renter the BGI market, however, they will have a hard time with both JetBlue and American already entrenched. They should have
87 LimaMike : I cant see any reasonable bets in terms of new routes that JM would be opening soon. I think re-launching the destinations you mentioned represent th
88 jm079 : Hey, welcome to the Jamaica thread. I will agree with you that JM/CAL back in BGI is not going to be a easy road as AA and B6 have establish themselv
89 hummingbird : Correct...The current re-fleeting exercise should be completed by April..... HAV and GCM could be started with the B738, however once the ATRs arrive
90 Post contains images AirJamaica : I guess when REDjet finally get off the ground, BGI-FLL will be connected. Agree. They will certainly be focusing their attention primarily on the co
91 Post contains images A388 : Would be fantastic yes A388
92 Post contains links jm079 : Air Jamaica is moving its headquarters to NMIA airport from down town KIN. In anticipation for the re-launch of the carrier this friday the carrier ha
93 yankeejuliet : Current Airbus fleet is 1 A321 1 A319 and 3A320s
94 hummingbird : SW would make a good candidate... BTW JM 17/19/15/14 is now being operated by NA... Well, its look like there is credibility to the BW 787 story..The
95 jm079 : So Air Jamaica getting the 787? Interesting developments. It is never a boring moment in the region with respect to aviation
96 Speedbird2263 : Remember we were supposedly supposed to get Q400's after the whole debate on ATR's? I'll believe it when I see it. They did say returning to London t
97 hummingbird : Honestly, I am shocked at this news..But we should be hearing more about this new order on Friday... The two ATRs are suppose to arrive next month fo
98 AirJamaica : I assume they use NA for JM 019 on an ad hoc basis now ? I can see 18/15/14/17 rotating with the B752 in a given day.
99 A388 : B777's? Where will Caribbean Airlines be getting them from? Pilot training isn't the most important cost when determining which aircraft better suits
100 Post contains images yellowtail : Is it friday yet
101 Post contains images speedbird2263 : lol...Patience my friend...Patience -2263
102 Inbound : LOL. I wish I was in KIN on friday too.....or even in FLL on thursday to see her leave.
103 Post contains images A388 : Have they restarted KIN-CUR already? A388
104 Post contains links AirJamaica : Again a winter storm is creating travel havoc in the US North East and as expected, flights to/from Jamaica were also affected. '' JetBlue airways say
105 Post contains links hummingbird : Nice videos of Jetblue's service into Kingston.. http://www.youtube.com/user/jamaicandonj#p/u/8/J63QbIGmLgM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT5EVUMmBmU
106 AA1818 : What is the exact breakdown of these flights? Any non-stops between POS and KIN? 2x weekly POS-SXM-KIN (What days?) 2x weekly POS-ANU-KIN (What days?
107 Post contains links and images speedbird2263 : I know the feeling, well lets hope a few sharp eyes are on hand to take some good snaps. Boi I tell yuh, when that happens I'm sure you're going to b
108 Post contains links and images hummingbird : All flights between POS and KIN are 1 stop... POS-BGI-KIN is daily... These are the extra 4 segments.... POS-ANU-KIN ops Thur and Sun POS-SXM-KIN ops
109 AirJamaica : Lol.....I would much prefer not to see it in that livery. Generally I do endorse creative and eye catching liveries on aircraft, but not this one !
110 Post contains images hummingbird : I agree, way too much use of the imagination.. The new JM has started it's advertising with the opeining of a Facebook and Twitter account..On their
111 Post contains links hummingbird : You can track JMA..It has left LCQ enroute to FLL..It will then depart for KIN.. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BWA7401
112 Post contains links and images hummingbird : Live from Kingston..
113 Post contains links and images hummingbird : More Pics.. Thanks DHP for pics.... London service starts in July.. B787 deliveries between 2012-2014... 2 for BW and 2 for JM...More routes will be a
114 yellowtail : What kind of eqp to start?
115 Post contains links and images hummingbird : According to Mr Nicholas, B777 ( As I suspected)... As per staff meeting: Alliance with Skyteam.....Instead of fighting, join them..More details to f
116 Post contains images speedbird2263 : I think I've died and gone to heaven.....now if only the West Indies and the Reggae Boys could follow suit and break their long spell too then I'd be
117 Post contains links and images eksath : Departing for KIN View Large View MediumPhoto © Suresh A. Atapattu
118 jm079 : It is very exciting to see that Air Jamaica has a new lease on life and the plans that are being put in place will definitely see the carrier become
119 hummingbird : There is much more to come..... I agree..Wishing them all the best....
120 AirJamaica : If this is their intention, then returning to ATL makes perfect sense for obvious reasons. JM served YUL way back in the day ( '70s ) if I recall cor
121 Caribb : I don't recall this. I know Air Canada invested in them back in the early 70s. I remember seeing their DC-9s and a few DC-8s at YUL but at the AC mai
122 Post contains links AirJamaica : Wiki lists YUL as one of JM's past destinations back in the 1970s but then again this is Wiki we are talking about here so it could very well be an e
123 a340jamaica : Good luck to JM with all these new developments. What they are doing now should have been done 6 - 9 months ago and a lot of hard feelings would have
124 Post contains links jm079 : Air Jamaica is set to return to London this summer using a 777, so say Caribbean Airlines Chairman. The chairman outlined the plans and more on wednes
125 Post contains images AA1818 : I thought it would have been Star Alliance. Great news. Glad to see JM return to MIA. I would love to see both JM and BW in IAH! Is this happenning?
126 Caribb : I know what you are talking about when it comes to Wikipedia but it's still great to have. I'm 98% sure Wiki is wrong though on YUL service. They onl
127 JM017 : I am sure I am the only skeptic here. I am told that I am a glass half-empty kinds guy. But this strategy failed badly the first time. A SkyTeam allia
128 JM017 : Let me correct myself: If the BWI flights are not well-timed, AirTran will continue to do well at JM's (BW, I suppose I should say) expense. ATL? Wel
129 Post contains images drbird : Wow JM is soaring again, pop the champagne I'll toast to that. From my take the new livery is beautiful on the tail but the fuselage has too much whit
130 Post contains links Ota1 : Well according to The Jamaica Observer citing Chairman of the Board of Caribbean Airlines George Nicholas III it's Star Alliance not SkyTeam BW/JM are
131 beeweel15 : TIme for BW/JM to start going Global
132 Post contains images speedbird2263 : The interesting times ahead that we've all been talking about for the past few years are finally here...and still......... Interesting times ahead -2
133 Post contains images ilanbwoy : I must say, i am very happy to see these positive signs for JM. For a while it was struggling on life support. Now it seems like the trini doctors mig
134 jm079 : I am in favor of CAL growing Air Jamaica but I am afraid that the plan as reported in the Jamaica Observer bears too much resemblance to the sort of
135 yellowtail : Somone in the other thread mentioned that the new AJ livery looks like Air Pacific....I have to admit it does and now I can't get it out of my head. N
136 Post contains images AirJamaica : Likewise I much prefer the appearance of an A300 than their sister ( A310 ) Not the mention the B744 which I think is a far better looking aircraft t
137 guyanam : The new board is pursuing a rapid growth strategy which will come back to burn it. What happens when the fuel SUBSIDY ends at the end of this year. T
138 hummingbird : If the market is served 3-4 per week, the flight will survive..What they now need is to get more Jamaicans to choose them as their carrier to Jamaica
139 speedbird2263 : Just to add to that there will be a livestream event for Air Jamaica on Facebook at 20:00 local (8pm EST). The video is currently streaming on their
140 hummingbird : Loving the pics from the event.. LHR 3 weekly starting July... Aviation experts to assist with growing carrier through more avenues... They are looki
141 jm079 : Jack Warner announced KIN - PAP Am not really sure what exactly is happening at CAL or how decisions are arrived at but this to me defied them all. I
142 beeweel15 : Well I was looking way beyond just London and anticipating a fleet of of around 25-45 plus aircraft to do the job which will include the the 737-800/
143 JM017 : I think that's usually how it is done. Or should be done. So, If I called Mr. Warner and complained about the hassles getting from Baltimore to Kings
144 Post contains images hummingbird : Good news..It will be in ther best interest to combine PAP with NAS services.... I hope Mr Warner runs into some Chinese diplomat while in Kingston..
145 Post contains links and images hummingbird : A.Net Exclusive..Interior shots for 9Y-JMA.. Aircraft is configured 16J and 138 Y..
146 Post contains images speedbird2263 : (I also posted this reply in the Caribbean Forum) I believe those ATR's that are going to be coming on stream in the near term are going to be cash c
147 Post contains images speedbird2263 : It's funny that I was able to live with the refreshed livery but that interior really pales in comparison to the original. I mean really? Those Execu
148 beeweel15 : The B/C seats look the same as they were but not leather. Economy does look different only a tiny bit though
149 Post contains images speedbird2263 : Maybe it's just me but I seem to remember a tiny accent in the seat coverings, akin to some pink and blue or something to that effect. Maybe I'm not
150 drbird : Is there any IFE on that Aircraft? Maybe that's why they reconfigure there baggage policies for intra Caribbean travel. Now only one piece check allo
151 AirJamaica : Assuming JM079 meant JM as a leisure carrier in the Caribbean ( MBJ ) while BW focus on the business market/diaspora ( POS ) So am I. Will we also se
152 jm079 : Do you all realise that CAL board is pursuing the business plan of Butch Stewart when he had Air Jamaica? What has been announced so far are all copie
153 JM017 : I agree and said pretty much the same thing above. Is it possible that this plan was proposed to pressure from the Jamaican Government?
154 trintocan : Well, congrats to the new JM, a new livery and new direction. All the very best for the future. I wonder too about the future plan for the airline. Ro
155 BW424 : That's because there was really no modification or little modification to the interior. That interior is Yemenia's if I'm not mistaken.
156 akizidy214 : I need to read this thread more often. JM needs to learn from their previous mistakes. A 777 is too much a/c for JM. They need to take hold of 2-3 2nd
157 JM017 : I meant to ask if the recent business plan was proposed in response to pressure from the Jamaican Government?
158 a340jamaica : Wish I could agree about the livery being nice. I don't like it at all, especially on a 737. Looks cheap. At the very least they should remove the Dr
159 hummingbird : I agree, the ATR will bring considerable high yields on these markets that are within 2 hours of Jamaica...The key markets are: GCM, which they shoul
160 JM017 : Thanks...this actually answers the question I had above. I am still hesitant about a renewed focus on tourist traffic. I am also not convinced they h
161 akizidy214 : Going to have to disagree... Think of like this.. There aren't many out there that look better and the livery on the 320-321's would not look good at
162 ilanbwoy : Interesting reading the comments about the Butch plan being re-implemented. The difference this time imho is that the cost factor is much lower. Back
163 Post contains links AirJamaica : Well it is good to know that it is only temporary. Not certain how long it takes for a typical B738 to be re - upholstered but it would have been rea
164 Post contains images speedbird2263 : BWI can make money but I'm not sure about MCO. B6 uses a E190 on their MCO-MBJ route. I feel positive about a return to LAX as one of the issues that
165 JM017 : That makes the status of KIN a bit ambiguous.
166 Post contains links hummingbird : A video of a SY on approach to rwy 25 in MBJ....Notice the heavy crosswinds on the approach... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHhF-qgDZ6E Trust me, it
167 Post contains images Ota1 : Well it's certainly interesting that Mr. Nicholas is so inconsistent about which alliance he prefers.... I guess we'll have to wait and see. However
168 yellowtail : I await KIN-BZE patiently.......I know i would use it at least 6 times a year.
169 a340jamaica : The departing JM livery will look good on any aircraft to which it is applied, some better than others, kind of like how in railroading the Atchinson
170 hummingbird : I believe the statement in The Observer was a misundertsnading on the writer's part....He mentioned at the launch they are still analysing both allia
171 BW424 : Well, I think we may not see brand new interiors with state of the art IFE until orders are placed for brand new narrowbodies. It's a waste of money
172 akizidy214 : Looks like Air Jam will be back in LHR by July... Interesting developments...
173 AirJamaica : BWI should be fine as long as fares are competitive and they don't operate the northbound leg as an am departure and southbound as pm. As for MCO, if
174 akizidy214 : Looks to be MBJ 3 times weekly. Doesn't specify what a/c. I sure hope it isn't a T7. JM needs to run this on a 767. If Boeing is going to be the plat
175 JM017 : London to Montego Bay? Against VS and BA? AND the charters? Oh boy....
176 jm079 : In the broad picture a return to London is indeed a welcome move as there is indeed a need for additional airlift. Jamaica has excellent airlift capa
177 Post contains links and images hummingbird : We are discussing KIN-MCO..MBJ is well served from MCO... They do have the range to cover the legs..Despite it not being a jet service, I think the p
178 Post contains links hummingbird : Mr Ed Bartlett had a news conference ahead of the Caribbean Marketplace being held in Montego Bay..He mentioned the following: It is expected JM will
179 Post contains images speedbird2263 : Woah...now that's really unexpected and a little premature IMO. I think FRA, MAN, LHR/LGW, BCN/MAD and even AMS should be ahead of DME/SVO or HKG/PEK
180 akizidy214 : After doing some research. It appears that there are more 777-200er's available then 767-300's. I also think a T7 will offer too many premium seats..
181 AirJamaica : I would much prefer is some of those long haul routes are done with some form of alliance agreement with the respective carriers rather than them fly
182 A388 : These stories are really getting out of hand now, really... A388
183 AA1818 : I must agree, however, so long as these are not 2011 plans, and mroe long-term strategies, they could potentially work. Some of the plans seem feasib
184 A388 : I totally agree with you. Caribbean Airlines/Air Jamaica should focus on LHR first and maybe expanding their North American presence in the coming ye
185 beeweel15 : I beg to differ as I am in contact with different leasing companies and charter airlines on a daily basis looking to acquire aircraft I can tell you
186 A388 : Can you give a breakdown of all the 767's available now and all the 777's available now? With regards to more 767's coming on the market when the 787
187 Post contains images speedbird2263 : My point exactly which is why I pointed out the more logical ones that should be started if they're that gung-ho on storming the world of long-haul.
188 hummingbird : The big question is how will they make these flights work with the restricted runway at MBJ... I agree...I hope they don't plan to use these aircraft
189 A388 : SQ I believe is in the process of phasing out their "older" 777 models but to my knowledge they all already have found new homes at Transaero. Other
190 A388 : The following 767's are currently parked with no operator: C/N MSN last update model registration remarks former airline former reg. delivered to 503
191 caribbean484 : From Boeing's website Egyptair will be returning 3 Pratt and Whitney 777 early this year, while SQ is still selling off their 77E fleet along with th
192 AirJamaica : Despite all the recent pending expansion news, more than likely the majority of them will be operated via some form of code-share/alliance.....partic
193 A388 : It makes sense what you said yes. However, if Caribbean Airlines/Air Jamaica wants to codeshare on alliances from LHR, then SkyTeam is not an alterna
194 jm079 : So we now have a clear vision of the strategy of CAribbean Airlines. Caribbean Airlines will remain at its base in Port of Spain, Trinidad and will fo
195 AA1818 : Is this confirmed for sure? That would certainly be a major boost for MBJ and Jamaica as a destination for American travellers. What is the Immigrati
196 Post contains links AirJamaica : Read that in an article as well. The
197 hummingbird : Yes, they are PW4090 models that will be leased to Omni International....The SQ and EK models are RR models.. I have a funny feeling, they are gettin
198 Post contains links AirJamaica : According to this article, JM's monthly losses are down to USD 2.4 million. Also it is noted that by year end 12 additional routes will be added. '' A
199 A388 : No it doesn't. Marketing does... A388
200 JM017 : After reading the posts above, I am a little concerned. I am kinda hoping JM/BW's business strategy moving forward is better thought out than "wishing
201 Post contains images speedbird2263 : Agreed on both accounts. -2263
202 guyanam : I already see this now. Air Jam will expand helter skelter like it did under Butch Stewart. Running low yield leisure oriented routes. 1. It will add
203 BW424 : Been speaking this gospel since bigshot Nicholas announced his grande plans. Especially since he is a political appointee that wants his payback. How
204 hummingbird : Lets put it this way, they both work in synergy to produce results!.. Am postive this re-branding exercise will give good results..With 12 new routes
205 JM017 : So these routes are being started at whose expennse? The JTB?
206 Caribb : I don't doubt there are photos of their DC-9s in Montreal. I saw them several times along with some DC-8s.. All of them were here for maintenance at
207 Post contains links drbird : Heres a link to George Nicolas III interveiw carried on local t.v. in jamaica last week. New Air Jamaica Owners Expect 3 Year Turnaround: http://www.a
208 GUYAIR707 : Did I get that correct, in the report George Nicolas blamed the Airbuses for the delays towards the end of 2010?
209 beeweel15 : Did I really get this. the 737 and 777 cockpits are similar, JM pax expect bags two days later, JM the choice of people coming to the English speakin
210 A388 : It can yes but doesn't have to, not at all. If a given route just isn't what people want, it will never stimulate growth because people just don't wa
211 A388 : The 777 and 737NG cockpit lay-outs indeed do share commonalities. The 737NG and 777 were the first Boeing aircraft to have commonality from the desig
212 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : Seems like Air Jamaica is ready to expand before year end with some kind of acquisition or alliance with Bahamasair and Liat according to the followin
213 Post contains links jm079 : Welcome to the Jamaica thread. This thread has been quite popular as we have some new posting and new members. Having you here adds dimensions to our
214 A388 : The main reason being that ET is much more popular worldwide because they are one of the few best airlines in their region. As for Caribbean Airlines
215 GUYAIR707 : Thank you. I agree, and good marketing also. GUYAIR707
216 guyanam : No the tax payers of Trinidad & Tobago will pay for JHTA and the Jamaican govts plans to follow Butch Stewart's flights to every where, no matter
217 hummingbird : I don't think we have ever seen so many flights from the UK in one day... TCX-A332 LGW MAN Thomson-B763.. LGW* 2 MAN GLA BA LGW Not really...JM will h
218 GUYAIR707 : Thank you. I am very excited that Air Jamaica is returning to LHR, but in some articles I read that route was losing money, in others I read it is ne
219 Post contains links AirJamaica : Gross exaggeration on his part with regards to those claims. Myself will miss those JM airbuses as well as I much prefer those aircraft types to the
220 a340jamaica : Why doesn't he mention that more than half of those 40 million people live on one of four islands or in bordering continental regions. This makes for
221 Post contains links hummingbird : New thread is ready.. Special Delivery..Jamaican Thread 37.. (by hummingbird Jan 20 2011 in Civil Aviation)
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