Yow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2399 times:
It has been a while (March) since WestJet has announced any new cities and/or routes.
Anyone want to make some predicitons as to what cities WestJet will expand to next? Make a list of your top 3 picks for both eastern (Ontario east) Canada and western (Manitoba west) Canada.
Here are my picks:
East: 1. Montreal
West: 1. Brandon (on a permanent basis)
Any thoughts? This is just for fun. I suspect that WestJet will announce new routes and cities towards the end of the summer.
BO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2765 posts, RR: 19 Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2264 times:
Right now They're gona set up routes for upcoming 2 700s.. YEG-YHM and some city to another with the 3rd 700.. MAybe in September or august, they may spread out?
Like all these possible routes u guys mentioned..
Expanding my global domination one spotter at a time..
CYKA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2255 times:
Kamloops!! I cannot stand those damn Dash-8's and 1900's anymore!!
On a calmer note, I really do think Kamloops is next most logical city in BC for at least a couple reasons:
1. It is the only major city not served by westjet in BC
2. There is a market for air travel; if Air Canada finds it profitable to have 6 flights to and from YVR a day, + 3 to YYC and and one each to YLW and Prince George, the demand is high enough.
Yow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2250 times:
YKA seems logical for WJ, especially as their next destination in BC. The only other BC airports that are realistic are Nanaimo, Prince Rupert, Terrace and Dawson Creek, but YKA would have to be the front runner.
YKA...in the last WestJet post about their new -700s didn't you say that there is a reason why WJ cannot yet serve YKA. I think that you said that it had something to do with the runway.
AC183 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 1532 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2250 times:
I'd pick Prince Rupert, Kamloops, and Brandon in the west, in that order, as most likely (sorry to differ on the Kamloops issue, but IMHO the fact that it is only an hour from YLW may allow WJ to put it off a little while, although I don't think it will be terribly long, but that's just IMO).
In the east I think Montreal-St.Hubert and Windsor are fairly firmly my top two picks, but I'm not sure about #3, I could see Halifax, Sault Ste. Marie, or several other possibilities as being feasible.
CYKA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2247 times:
They are putting in a glideslope to finish of the ILS on rwy 26 this summer, which apperently is a requiremnt that Westjet has. This is somewhat confusing since they have been flying to YLW since their inception which also has had up to now only a LOC/DME approach + a tougher approach than YKA's.
As for the instalation time, the Nav Canada crew is instaling one in YLW at the moment and since its the only team qualified to do this kind of work, YKA will have to wait until they finish up there. Of course, as expected they are taking their sweet time....i mean how long does it take to stick the antenna into the ground and calibrate the system? I did see their Canadair calibration plane doing ILS(LOC/DME still) approaches a couple days ago so im guessing they are getting ready to finaly instal it.
Yow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2238 times:
Thanks for that info about Kamloops. By the way, in the past (i.e. before the 1990s) did Canadian, CP Air, Time Air or PWA ever fly 737s or F28s into YKA? I can understand WJ wanting an ILS approach before commencing service there.
Yow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2237 times:
Oh yeah I forgot to mention that I could definitely see WJ flying a YOW-YHM-YQG-YWG-YYC route or something similar to this. Windsor (and London) is so underserved. CanJet made the mistake of trying to go head to head with Air Ontario when they were briefly at YQG.
CYKA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2241 times:
CP had a YLW-YKA-RNO service going during the fall/winter season of '94 using 737's. I also heard that CP had regualr 737 service to YKA in the 70's and 80's, until AirBc came in with thier damn turboprops and began charging ridiculeously low fares.
Tennisace From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 217 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2230 times:
I've said in previous posts that I bet Sudbury is up there on the list of next WJA destinations, although I do agree with all the other suggestions. Also just for the record the drive between downtown Kamloops and the Kelowna airport is about 2 hours......trust me I've done it many times......so the distance factor/catchment population thing wouldn't be a major discouragement from WJA starting Kamloops service. Also I've heard the rumour that a Abbotsford-Prince George non-stop service may be in the works. Cheers!
Crj 900 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2227 times:
if they are smart they'd service YPR/YXT next in the west. YKA they could do i guess if they get the approach aid facilities they need. I just wonder if the market would be there. I just don't understand why everybody seems to think you need a jet on a 40 min sector(yvr-yka) . After the AC REg contracts are done, you'll see an announcement for new aircraft and my guess is you may see q400's goin in there. With a jet flt times will be shorter and don't count on alot of svc, maybe a juice cup....if it's yyc-yka that may be a different story...As for the east Brandon does seem likely. Transborder, doubt it, for the same reasons Southwest doesn't wanna come up here. They are gettin big though, i think they are an awesome company and look like alot of fun. Oh ya, PWA used to fly in there(yka) years ago with a 737 and they also flew into Castlegar(yikes!), but that woulda been alot of fun to experience that!
Fly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1661 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2227 times:
I really hope its YHM-Montreal which airport is anyone's guess Im not so sure if I would go into Windsor quite yet with what happened with Canjet. I think its just a matter of once they have every possible route taken up in Canada before they go south. Also going south would lengthen their 20 minute turn around times. other cities in the east that they might head to might be Halifax St. John's. Well which ever they decide on its going to be announced during the 4th quarter of this year.
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CYKA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (12 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2230 times:
The YLW-YVR route has a travel time which is the same as that of YKA-YVR, somehow this didn't stop westjet from starting service there......
One thing I do not understand is why everyone seems to think westjet is gonna fly to "ghost towns" like Terrace or Prince Rupert. Those places could easily be served with a B 1900. Is it really worth burining Jet A for 700 nm to reach the 20 passangers willing to fly to YVR? or Prince George?
WJV04 From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 578 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2221 times:
i was talking to a westjet pilot and they said that montreal and toronto are unavialible due to crappy gate times, they also said there going to keep it as it is for about 1 year, then start with us desinations such as las vegas and lax
Fallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 19 Reply 23, posted (12 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2225 times:
Very interesting, I'm surprised there are no good gate times available in Toronto since the departure of Canadian . I have a tour of the Westjet hangar later this week, any questions you want me to ask?
Samurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2457 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (12 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2221 times:
CYKA, Prince Rupert and Terrace aren't exactly ghost towns. Prince Rupert has about 17,000 people, while Terrace has a population of about 20,000. Kitimat (I'm not even sure if it even has an airport, but it's not that far from Terrace anyway) has about 12,000. This amounts to at least 49,000 people in the North Coast region - only a bit bigger than Fort McMurray. Prince George has about 77,000 people, so there's more than enough demand for WJ flights.
Because of a lack of a viable highway to Vancouver due to the Coast Mountains and the rugged terrain of BC's coast (although there is a marine highway system, traveling times by ferry must be pretty slow compared to going on a regular highway), demand for flights in the Prince Rupert/Terrace/Kitimat area has been historically high, I think. After all, CP used to fly 737s into these airports and AirBC until recently was using BAe 146's on the YPR/YXT-YVR route.
IMHO, WestJet may start flying into Kamloops or Prince Rupert next in Western Canada. In the east, Montreal at St. Hubert is likely to be next, although I'm not sure how soon.
25 NorthStarDC4M: i hope Tennisace is right, Sudbury, or better still, North Bay (longer runway). Maybe Windsor... but CanJet did so poorly there, it might not be a goo
26 Yow: The airport for Terrrace and Kitimat serves both of those towns. I don't think that Terrace and Prince Rupert are too small for WJ. Heck Grande Prairi
27 Crj 900: CYKA, just to let u know, when we (cral) fly into YXT, our loads on the f28 are full and always have been. YPR doesn't do quite as well but still acce
28 Samurai 777: Yow, I agree. I'm a little surprised that WJ didn't pick up on the YPR/YXT market sooner. But I think it's more to do with the fact that there's not e
29 CYKA: The only reason that YXT gets jet serivice is because it's so isolated. Travel times would be too long on Dash-8's to make customars happy(esspecialy
30 Yow: Samurai 777...you're right that the reason why WJ probably has not started serving YPR or YXT is due to a lack of aircraft. CYKA...I agree that AC wou
31 Fallingeese: There were some weird flights into YYC this afternoon. An all white 747-200 or maybe SP ,didn't get that good of a look......and i forgot the registra
32 Crj 900: Don't hold your breath for AC jets into YKA soon, regardless of any potential Westjet presence.
33 CYKA: Im not really looking forword to seeing any(maybe the 146), it's mainly the WJ 737's that im most interested in seeing. Do you think that ACR fly the
34 Samurai 777: Crj900, that'll make sense because AC never did follow with jet service to Grande Prairie or increase jet service to Fort McMurray. (There is however
35 Fly_yhm: Fallingeese The New -700 flies YYC-YHM non stop and the second one will be flying YEG-YHM non stop starting this monday it will also be flying YYC-YOW
36 YWG777: I think WJ will expand to Halifax in the east and Whitehorse in the west. I can also see Brandon and Montreal. I do hope Westjet does expand to the US
37 Spyderz: Someone mentioned Abbotsford-Prince George. Yes it's happening, but is only seasonal.
38 Fallingeese: I was on the 737-700 yesterday . It's great, it was parked outside the hangar and my friend and I were let into it. There is alot of leg room, and it