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Never A Dull Moment - Caribbean Aviation 84  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1436 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 15697 times:

On the eve of 2011, we, as natives of the Caribbean have been taken for a rollercoaster ride with the many highs and lows that have transpired over the course of this year. From the audacious acqusition of JM by CAL, to the incorporation of the region's first indigenous LCC, the Caribbean is surely a place where there is "never a dull moment". That said, as we enter a new year, let me take this opportunity to thank everyone for their contributions to this marathon thread. Though we may have had our disagreements, we still find common ground in our passion for aviation.

Here is to a Happy and Blessed New Year to all readers and contributers and the same for our regional carriers.



*News Feed*

Redjet poised to begin operations in Q1 of 2011.
Caribbean Airlines gets new Board of Directors after change in GORTT.
Caribbean Airlines integrates ground operations across North America.
Caribbean Airlines' Captian Ian Brunton demits office as CEO.
Revised Air Jamaica livery for B738 leaked.
Tropic Air of Belize plans expansion to Honduras and Guatemala.
Tropic Air takes delivery of eighth Cessna 208 Caravan with 5 more on order.
Redjet first aircraft, an MD-82 named "Jacqualicious" arrives in BGI to a rousing reception.
Caribbean Airlines begins flight operations integration with JM78/79 KIN-YYZ-KIN service.
Caribbean Airlines aircraft get JM stickers applied.
Copa Airlines begins new twice weekly PTY-SXM service.
Caribbean Airlines begins year round twice weekly ANU-JFK (BW 428/429) and GND-JFK (BW 430/431) with B738.
Jetblue said to be in negotiations with ANU for service to the island.
Caribbean Airlines dry-leases two B738Ws from HV for winter season (9Y-TJR and 9Y-TJS).
Jetblue wants BGI to upgrade its facilities to process passengers faster.
Continental Airlines launches year round EWR-CUR with B73G.
Caribbean Airlines billion dollar ATR deal gets green light after weeks of controversy.
Canada signs Open Skies agreement with both Trinidad and Tobago and Jamaica.
Blue Panaroma Airlines begins MXP-LRM-ANU service for winter season. Flights operate thu May 2nd 2011.
Caricom Airways grounded as it is denied an AOC.



9Y-KIN preparing to blast beach patrons @ SXM.


6Y-JMI speeding down the runway at JFK while a DL B752 elegantly floats in.


Redjet BGI arrival celebration. Courtesy Redjet on Facebook.


Goodbye to the year 2010





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User currently online2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 15724 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Copa Airlines begins new twice weekly PTY-SXM service.

SXM gave CM a deal CM couldn't
refuse so eventually CM started flights overthere. Maybe BGI and CUR could learn from what SXM did and get CM to start flights to those islands.. someday

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Redjet BGI arrival celebration.

In the meanwhile REDjet is paying the lease on that aircraft without flying any route yet. Big pockets people behind REDjet must have.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineLIA310 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Mar 2008, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 15629 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):

The BW GND flights operate using the BW420/421 flight number, not BW430/431.


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6357 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 15564 times:

You might want to add that F9 is also poised to announce service from DEN to MBJ, RTB and BZE this coming year to you list.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 1):
Maybe BGI and CUR could learn from what SXM did and get CM to start flights to those islands.. someday

They don't need to learn, jsut but out the 7 figure checkbook.



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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 15489 times:

My date is running late so I figured I'd make on last post for the year.


BW plans have been unveiled please see the following link

6 737s to replace the A320s (they did not disclose who but I assume more ILFC birds)!

LHR is to be resumed and negotiations for the slots have commenced! So let the speculation begin!


Nice to see BW plying the LHR route it will be interesting to see the aircraft type they choose and the level of service they are going to bring to. With level of service I am talking about IFE etc. I am sure they will go with a 2 class configuration although I think a 3 class configuration of Business Premium Economy and Economy would be interesting! The ideal aircraft would most likely be the A330 but again what ever is chosen will be dependent on what is available and the price they can get it at!

Also does the return of LHR means the end of BGI as a back burner destination in the BW network! One could argue that any return to LHR would see some routing through BGI! However BW could also stick with the whole BGI is too saturated a market etc! Interesting times ahead for sure

Happy New Years to all of you!

Regards
BWIA 772



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User currently online2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 15469 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 4):
LHR is to be resumed and negotiations for the slots have commenced! So let the speculation begin!

If the London route is that much of an O/D route, shouldn't BW consider STN or LTN instead of LHR?

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 4):
The ideal aircraft would most likely be the A330 but again what ever is chosen will be dependent on what is available and the price they can get it at!

My bet goes to the B767-300ER.



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 15433 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 4):



Continuing where you left off,
CAL:
ATRs will be used of Caribbean expansion, new regional routes will be announced ( Maybe we will see SVD and SLU), I am hoping for more Venezuela flights and CUR lol.
A third airline will be in the mix for CAL, ( not sure if this will be LIAT or a new regional arm)
Fuel hedged will continue, the airline is looking to hedge from Citibank in the future
A new CEO search is well underway with candidates being reviewed.

Air Jamaica:
The Airline will be keep a separate entity from CAL, it is expected that the loses from JM will be turned around once all cost cutting measures are completed.
Consolidation with CAL expected to be completed by the end of the first quarter.
Air Jamaica will also benefit from the fuel hedge like CAL for one year.
9Y-JMA will be painted in Air Jamaica's new logo and corporate brand from January 14th, with a mega launch expected with all stakeholders from POS and KIN attending.
KIN will see more flights and new routes being announced when he ATRs are placed, JM will be expanding this year.



All ah we is one family
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1436 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 15413 times:

Quoting LIA310 (Reply 2):
The BW GND flights operate using the BW420/421 flight number, not BW430/431.
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 3):
You might want to add that F9 is also poised to announce service from DEN to MBJ, RTB and BZE this coming year to you list.

Sorry guys for the sluppy work there. Thanks for the heads up.

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 4):
LHR is to be resumed and negotiations for the slots have commenced! So let the speculation begin!

I'm very skeptical about this. Somehow, I don't think an analysis was done before announcing such an ambition. This seems to be just an ego thing to say "we flying back to London" rather than really asessing the need for such a route at this moment. That means CAL will have at least 3 types.

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 6):
Continuing where you left off,
CAL:
ATRs will be used of Caribbean expansion, new regional routes will be announced ( Maybe we will see SVD and SLU), I am hoping for more Venezuela flights and CUR lol.
A third airline will be in the mix for CAL, ( not sure if this will be LIAT or a new regional arm)
Fuel hedged will continue, the airline is looking to hedge from Citibank in the future
A new CEO search is well underway with candidates being reviewed.

Air Jamaica:
The Airline will be keep a separate entity from CAL, it is expected that the loses from JM will be turned around once all cost cutting measures are completed.
Consolidation with CAL expected to be completed by the end of the first quarter.
Air Jamaica will also benefit from the fuel hedge like CAL for one year.
9Y-JMA will be painted in Air Jamaica's new logo and corporate brand from January 14th, with a mega launch expected with all stakeholders from POS and KIN attending.
KIN will see more flights and new routes being announced when he ATRs are placed, JM will be expanding this year.

Interesting new year ahead. Only thing I'm really siked about is who will be the new CEO.



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User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 15380 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 4):
BW plans have been unveiled please see the following link

Its about time they send some Caribbean Steel back to LHR hope they get a good price. Do I see a couple of 777-200ER in the assembly line.


User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 15321 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 4):
LHR is to be resumed and negotiations for the slots have commenced! So let the speculation begin!
Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 4):
Also does the return of LHR means the end of BGI as a back burner destination in the BW network!



They mentioned that BGI will be rebuilt, lets see how they plan this out. I am not sure why they are not looking at LGW since the agreement with BA said that they could get LGW slots easily. Yes LGW is further from from the city than LHR however the slots are more readily available.

In term of a/c well SQ has a few 772 coming off this year also and those birds are well maintained.
I guess that the A330 is the best a/c suited for the airline, A332 to be exact. The problem is that there really aren't any A330s on the lease market, an if they happen to get one almost new its lease cost is said to be upwards US$650000 a month.
Then we have the 767, those may be too old as new ones are being kept, maybe they should get a deal with Boeing for the 763 or 764 to then be replaced by the 787 when slots become available.

This is a great way for CAL's marketing to engage in a relationship with 4 and 5 star carriers about long-haul services, and possibly look greatly at the market in how to configure these aircraft. If I have to say it most likely should be 2 class config but 3 class(Business, Premium and Economy) will be the better option.
In order to compete with BA and VS they will have to invest considerably in IFE R&D to keep updated with the industry.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10010 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 15279 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Blue Panaroma Airlines begins MXP-LRM-ANU service for winter season. Flights operate thu May 2nd 2011.

Blue Panorama already restarted flights to CUR as well. CO's year round service is for two weekly flights, not one.


Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 1):

refuse so eventually CM started flights overthere. Maybe BGI and CUR could learn from what SXM did and get CM to start flights to those islands.. someday

As Yellowtail mentioned, it's not what you need to learn. It's just what you are willing to pay them. CUR now has the DAE flight to PTY which offers connections on other CM flights so I don't see a need for CM to fly the route themselves now.

A388


User currently online2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 15230 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 10):
CUR now has the DAE flight to PTY which offers connections on other CM flights so I don't see a need for CM to fly the route themselves now.

POS had Constellation flights to PTY for a while, suddendly CM showed interest in flying that route. Lets see how CM reacts to DAE, let them open the market and take the market from them.
Would that strategy work for CM with KY and PY flights to PTY too?   



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User currently offlineBW985 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Nov 2007, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 15190 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 4):
LHR is to be resumed and negotiations for the slots have commenced! So let the speculation begin!

Wow, that is exciting news!     I can't wait to hear which route and aircraft they will go for.

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 9):
I am not sure why they are not looking at LGW since the agreement with BA said that they could get LGW slots easily. Yes LGW is further from from the city than LHR however the slots are more readily available.

IMO LHR is a better choice not only because it is nearer to the city but because it offers more flight connections. Hopefully they will cooperate with other airlines and offer through fares/ticketing/checkin.

I wonder if BA would still fly to POS, if BW would start flights to London? I guess they receive some sort of subsidy to fly to POS at the moment? Hopefully they will do flights from Jamaica to London as well.

BW985


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10010 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15061 times:

The question is if Caribbean Airlines has the money to get LHR slots besides being very hard to get...

A388


User currently offlinewestindian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15046 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 8):
Its about time they send some Caribbean Steel back to LHR hope they get a good price. Do I see a couple of 777-200ER in the assembly line.

Took you long enough to respond! LOL! Where have you been?!  
Quoting BW424 (Reply 7):

I'm very skeptical about this. Somehow, I don't think an analysis was done before announcing such an ambition. This seems to be just an ego thing to say "we flying back to London" rather than really asessing the need for such a route at this moment. That means CAL will have at least 3 types.

That is a very interesting viewpoint. At first I was quite excited to read the news, but your spin does make me think...

Quote:

Warner expressed confidence in the state of CAL’s finances and the airline’s continued financial health under Nicholas’ stewardship. The minister said once CAL continues to exercise fiscal prudence, “I don’t think we shall see the days of BWIA (again).

We better not!!! Might I remind you, sir, that the little soap opera shenanigans that was transpiring lately made it look A LOT like BWIA!



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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15002 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 7):

I do think that some sort of analysis had been done. Once it was clear that the BA code share would not have been renewed I am pretty sure that some analysis on the need to have London in the Caribbean Network was conducted. It also is quite possible that the entire JM acquisition process along with the change in government and the ensuing bacchanal pushed back any plan of action agreed upon by BW management. While I do share some skepticism about heading back to London, I do think that flying to London was not a matter of if but always a matter of when.

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 9):

With regards to BGI being rebuilt, as I have stated I will believe it when I see it. I do think that success in BGI especially on routes such as BGI JFK, BGI MIA and BGI YYZ will prove if BW product offering is really good as in BGI the reliance on being the home town airline will not be that strong!

In terms of the fleet the 772 IMHO is too much plane for BW. Ideally you need an aircraft that can still be economical on runs to JFK and YYZ from POS and KIN!

With regards to a third brand in the BW stable, all nice and good ideally it should be LIAT, but maybe the umpteenth time will be the charm!!!

Quoting BW985 (Reply 12):

Well BW seems to be more concerned with O/D traffic as its their main customer block. The advantage of LHR in this case is which carriers does it allow BW to build up a relationship with IMHO!

Regards
BWIA 772



Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 740 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 14952 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 1):
In the meanwhile REDjet is paying the lease on that aircraft without flying any route yet. Big pockets people behind REDjet must have.

Indeed, perhaps this is due to the regulator delays though.


User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1436 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 14914 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 15):
do think that some sort of analysis had been done. Once it was clear that the BA code share would not have been renewed I am pretty sure that some analysis on the need to have London in the Caribbean Network was conducted. It also is quite possible that the entire JM acquisition process along with the change in government and the ensuing bacchanal pushed back any plan of action agreed upon by BW management. While I do share some skepticism about heading back to London, I do think that flying to London was not a matter of if but always a matter of when.

I really hope you are correct. Seems very rational that BW would have already been doing their studies before this new GORTT. Like you, I never questioned if, but when they were returning to London. The thing that makes me skeptical as well is that they want LHR, when LGW slots are readily available from the agreement with BA. In addition to that, IMO, BW has a few closer markets in the US and South America that they can exploit before heading across the pond. But we will see.

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 15):
In terms of the fleet the 772 IMHO is too much plane for BW. Ideally you need an aircraft that can still be economical on runs to JFK and YYZ from POS and KIN!

Agreed. The aircraft must be able to be filled and utilised efficiently. Can't have another BWIA situation where one widebody was on the ground half of the time.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10010 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14889 times:

Maybe a London route is more successful when combined with KIN (bigger VFR markets combined)? Please correct on this.

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User currently online2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14824 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 15):
Ideally you need an aircraft that can still be economical on runs to JFK and YYZ from POS and KIN!

B767-300ER sounds like that kind of aircraft.

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 15):
Well BW seems to be more concerned with O/D traffic as its their main customer block.

If BW is that much concern with KIN/POS-LON O/D traffic, why is BW so stubborn as to want to pay top ££ for LHR slots when LON traffic could well be taken care of if flying cheaply to either STN or LTN?



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14802 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 19):
If BW is that much concern with KIN/POS-LON O/D traffic, why is BW so stubborn as to want to pay top ££ for LHR slots when LON traffic could well be taken care of if flying cheaply to either STN or LTN?

I will comment on the other news regarding BW when I have a little more time to post, but let me just say this:

A feasibility study was conducted by the previous board, at which time both foreign and local experts (aviation and finance) were hired to advise on the POS and KIN to London routings.

BW needed to differentiate from BA, almost 'one-up' it, so naturally LHR. It was also said that buying LHR would be a good long-term investment for the airline from the point of view of alliances in the future as well as having such a valuable asset of which they aren't making any more, its value will only increase over time.

In terms of feasibility, BW now compared to BWIA will have need for more than one or two long-haul aircraft, due to hubs in both KIN and POS and its dominance in destinations such as JFK from both and YZ from POS. Its cost structure today is signficantly less meaning that simply on paper, the LHR route would work with the old BWIA's load numbers and fares. Of course the market has changed and BA now flies into POS (everyday?).

They have done their homework and the experts say that LHR should be their first pick for re-entry, while LGW will do if slots are unavailable.

AA1818



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User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 14759 times:

That sounds about right, AA1818.

I've heard they are looking to get 4 widebodies. Obviously juggling between 767 and A330. While I am a Boeing guy, I think the 330 will be better in terms of age/maintenance.

We will all like to see 777s too, but two routes CAL would like to start are GEO-YYZ and GEO-JFK.
I have to take a look at the performance data, but based on the length of the runway in GEO....the 330/767 would be more suitable than a 777.

I also heard that at the end of this month, there will be CAL Dash8 ops into Grenanda, possibly via BGI, on alternate days.

I think 9Y-JMA has gone to FLL to get the new JM livery applied.

anyhooo.....Happy New Year to all of you......let's hope 2011 is a good year for caribbean aviation  



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 14664 times:

It's a really interesting discussion,
I was talking to my sources about it, and they are already in talks with Boeing and Airbus about the possible a/c needed.
London was BWIA's flagship route, bringing in 25% of the airline's revenue, and at the time the airline won awards for long-haul travel. L1011 was the best a/c for the route at the time as we all remembered the Ibis and Royal Hibiscus class services. At the time of privatization BWIA needed an a/c with the L1011 capabilities as the TriStars in 1995 were 15 years old. Ed Acker was looking at the 763 and then to replace them with B772, however at Acker did not have the capital to do such transaction. Airbus came in to give them a deal for A321s and A343 in 1996, we know what happened to the A321s and the A343 were dependent on the airline giving stake to VS.

In Aleong's tenure he was intended to replace BWIA's entire fleet, as BWIA772 said many times in the past they should have replaced the L1011s first since they were much older than the MD80s. Aleong's team run a study of LHR and concluded that they needed an a/c of the 763ER/772 or A332/A333 and ETOPS 180 approval. In 2001 I remembered on of my family member working in maintenance saying that BWIA choose the A332 for their London operations. It was to be configured in 2 class with the latest technology for IFE and cabin service.

When Trinidad and Tobago was downgraded by the FAA BWIA had to scrap the plans and now had to find another a/c to get over that fact. The report concluded that the 744s were to large, the MD11 was not the best option and the A343 was the better performer for the airline. BWIA was in talks with SQ for their A340 I was told but went against it and chose ILFC A343 from AC. Well we all know of the A343 time at BWIA.

As AA1818 said the last board under Saunders ran a study to return to London in 2011/2012, and last year under Brunton when the airline took over JM.
CAL CEO Davies did not want to have the airline running LHR again because they wantted to bring cost down and the A343s leases were up. BA was the only one that wanted to fly to Trinidad of course with Guarantees and hence the reason for the slots being sold cheaper, it was reported.

What was said was that CAL did not like the fact BA was selling their code shared flights much higher than the BA's and then BA not wanting to continue its code share after the 3 year partnership was over. We have seen from S11 BA will increase LGW-UVF-POS to daily 4 class service.

Now London BWIA carried on average 230 pax each way daily during the L1011 and early A340 days, and JM carried 200 pax each way daily from KIN, using these statictics Caribbean Airlines would need a 2 or 3 class a/c with about 240-260 seats. According to my source the recommendation made was that POS-BGI-LHR and LHR-KIN flights were the best options. Given also JFK-GEO has been growing ad is expected to continue high growth in next 5 years.



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6357 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 14652 times:

CM finally gives PTY-PAP its increase....full release is posted in the C. American thread.

Relevant Segment

Panama City – Port au Prince eff 15JUN11 Increase from 2 to 4 weekly with schedule changes
CM428 PTY1206 – 1427PAP 73G 26 -13JUN11
CM428 PTY0906 – 1127PAP 73G x156 15JUN11-

CM427 PAP1552 – 1806PTY 73G 26 -14JUN11
CM427 PAP1224 – 1438PTY 73G x156 15JUN11-

Panama City – Port of Spain eff 15JUN11 Daily Embraer E190 service, replacing 5 weekly 737-700 and 2 weekly E190

Panama City – Punta Cana eff 15JUN11 Operational day change of 11 of 18 weekly flights
CM352/351 Daily service reduce to Day x24
CM158/159 Day x236/x347 service increase to Day x4/x5



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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1436 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 14621 times:

Quoting Inbound (Reply 21):
Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 22):

All of this is very exciting!!! But, I choose to wait and see. Sorry for the skepticism guys, but I've seen too many good intentions turn into nonsense.



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25 2travel2know2 : The problem when hiring experts is that many times they'll give advise based on what whoever hired them want to hear with little consideration on how
26 Post contains images westindian425 : What an interesting proposition! Combining both would, however, call for BGI/UVF/SLU/GND-POS or BGI/UVF/ANU-KIN and run either port as a hub-and-spok
27 Post contains links BW985 : BW had far less than 90-95% O/D on their London flights. I think it was Caribbean484 who previously mentioned that 40% of passengers had connecting f
28 Post contains links and images A388 : See my latest KL photo as it approaches/lands in Curacao: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography Hope you lik
29 AA1818 : They didn't stop Toronto though, so it is strange to see it listed there. That quote is somewhat dubious, though I am excited about new routes/ desti
30 BW424 : lolol.....yes Well from what I interpret, the journalist is referring to the JM routes being taken over, but apparently, they haven't done their home
31 Post contains images A388 : Amen to that my friend A388
32 Post contains links and images A388 : Below is my first photo of Avior Airlines' new livery: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography Cheers, A388
33 caribbean484 : 9Y-JMA is at Lake City Municipal Airport Florida getting her new paint job and an interior upgrade from TIMCO Aviation Services, she should be returni
34 A388 : Great, even though I discovered a few days ago that the new JM livery is an almost exact copy of the FJ livery (which kind of disappointed me afterwa
35 AA1818 : If all the colour on the body of the aircraft is what is actually going to be painted then I don't see why you are saying its an exact copy consideri
36 A388 : That's the only difference, the main attention area being the tail section, is exactly what FJ has, in other words just pure copy/pasting. The only d
37 Post contains links jm02 : There was a shooting incident at MBJ airport yesterday when two men got in a scuffle over J$1000 (US$12). This occurred in a shop near the arrival bui
38 guyanam : People dont even know where those UK airports are. They will stick with BA and VS. BW will need either LGW or LHR to make it worse. Cheap landing slo
39 westindian425 : Considering B6 is a LCC focusing on leisure, I'm not sure if that would work with an A320 nonstop. Perhaps as the expansion in SJU continues, it may
40 LimaFoxTango : Quick question just for my own knowledge. Does an A320 or 738 has enough legs for JFK-GEO and vice versa with a useful/profitable load? Seems like a
41 Post contains images westindian425 : That's the same thing I'm saying! It might work if everyone travels light, but that's HIGHLY unlikely!
42 2travel2know2 : Fares already could be "discounted" as compare to fares to LGW/LHR since STN lower operating costs do refrect that. It's a just question of knowing w
43 A388 : You said it right, STN works for low cost airlines, not for mainline longhaul airlines. You really can't compare Air Asia X with a scheduled airline,
44 2travel2know2 : But how big % of BW/JM LON passengers were actually connecting when LON flights were flown? STN does have lounges (generic no "President Club" type).
45 A388 : Probably not the bigger part of the loads, but even if it's just a few percent, it is something you are missing. Especially if you will miss all your
46 beeweel15 : Ok this might be crazy but I just heard from a friend that BW is getting the 787 for LHR. Now this person works at BW now has anyone else heard this.
47 guyanam : Which is why I said in vain. I dont even think the 320 has the range to do GEO nonstop from JFK. Guyanese arent going to change planes @ SJU. maybe i
48 BW424 : BREAKING NEWS A couple CAL employees that I know have been posting on FB that CAL will be returning to LHR with the 787. More than one in separate sta
49 westindian425 : WHOA!!! Well, BWIA did get the L-1011 brand new, so why not the 787?! I'm not sure abotu the cancelled orders, but I think Boeing may be able to give
50 Post contains images speedbird2263 : I would really have no problem even 1/2 believing if it was the B763 or A332 that was mentioned but the B787?? I mean come on, we had a heck of time
51 Inbound : wow....April 1st came early LOL
52 BW424 : hahaha. Maybe it was some typo or something like that.
53 windian425 : The Airbus A332 is still the most ideal option for CAL at this point. At least in terms of its economics for the sector lengths between the Caribbean
54 Post contains images westindian425 : Oh snap!! We have a new a.netter....and he's got my name! Welcome!! LOL!! Given that the A330 is available now, and the good Minister is talking abou
55 Inbound : Agreed......unfortunately haha Still hoping for 772s
56 BWIA 772 : On BW getting the 787, certainly it would be great not only for the Caribbean Spotters but for the airline as well as well. It would also allow BW to
57 A388 : Guys, let's snap out of this 787 thing. Let's not talk about the entry into service date of the 787 yet. There are hundreds of orders already placed
58 2travel2know2 : B787 for BW? When in 2016? Rightnow, BW could place an order for a couple of B767-300ER (or B767-200ER/400ER) and have brand-new B787 dual-class w/int
59 beeweel15 : Call sign is Caribbean.
60 BW424 : Welcome to the forum man!! Agreed. It will also bring a lot of recognition to BW as being one of the first to operate it into LHR. BW would become fa
61 LimaFoxTango : The callsign is actually "Caribbean Airlines", though many shorten it to "Caribbean". If there's one thing I admired about the old BW was the callsig
62 Inbound : Actually, our call sign is Caribbean Airlines. "Caribbean" belongs to a commuter airline somewhere around puerto rico. On flights to Toronto where we
63 Post contains images speedbird2263 : One of the reason's why I don't quite like the call sign as it must be a little cumbersome in a busy environ as compared to a single word call sign.
64 AirJamaica : Guess it is a similar situation with all carriers that have longer call signs. NK's for example is '' Spirit Wings '' , but I am certain in the ATC e
65 Post contains images westindian425 : LOL!! Washington, Boston, and the Land of Cleve are NOTORIOUS for messing up call signs! It's never a dull moment flying through their sectors when d
66 Post contains images AirJamaica : Lol.....You have a point there. Pretty soon that name will be gone so the controllers/flight deck crews will have it a bit easier by simply saying ''
67 Post contains images windian425 : hahaha another Bajan, weclome! BTW windian425, any special visitors into BGI other than the LH 346 charter? Nothing as interesting on the horizon just
68 windian425 : The 772 is actually an overkill for CAL.. In a 2 class configuration it could carry close to 350 pax.
69 Post contains images speedbird2263 : I concur!! I definitely could imagine that happening. -2263
70 BW424 : Thanks for the correction. It is quite a mouthful. "West Indian" was just pure class IMO.
71 Post contains images LimaMike : Actually the "Caribbean Airlines...uhm, Air Jamaica 079" transmissions are way more common than you think. Some crew will make the mistake once or so
72 westindian425 : LOL!!! HAHAHAHA!! Aww, man I would have loved to hear that! Those "teething" problems exist whenever there's a merging of sorts. That happened lots w
73 Post contains images Speedbird2263 : Ah boi I tell you, lol...It's good that we can laugh and jest about it now, during the early days of the transition mistakes like these heard by the
74 westindian425 : Oh, I'm sure it was like that earlier on! Soap opera drama tends to be the norm when two carriers come together. Once the dust settles, I believe com
75 yellowtail : I see DL will be giving BZE the A320 (some days) in Feb....nice upgrade but there goes my variety!
76 windian425 : Can anyone say what charter airline will be operating the weekly service between France and St. Lucia (UVF)?? Perhaps XL France?
77 Post contains links caribbean484 : The rebranding of Air Jamaica will take place tomorrow and already there is a lot of fan fare. Caribbean Airlines and Air Jamaica's marketing team are
78 AA1818 : I really hope that CAL management can turn the JM brand around. If separate identities are what the doctor (bird) ordered, then so be it. JM should b
79 Post contains images caribbean484 : Thanks to Hummingbird for the shots Its suppose to be daily, given the flight training at night I suppose its going to be 2 daily? It will indeed go h
80 Post contains links and images BW424 : JM 738 at FLL View Large View MediumPhoto © Suresh A. Atapattu
81 beeweel15 : Yes I LIKE IT now can we tweak BW colors a bit
82 Post contains images westindian425 : Now then, if we can just get a modernized hangar facility built at POS! Plenty of room to work with!! St. Kitts and Dominica, if memory serves me cor
83 Post contains links caribbean484 : For those that would like to see the unveiling of the new Air Jamaica tomorrow, you can look at it in their facebook page live. I believe it will take
84 westindian425 : Oh wow! Does this mean they'll be laying off crews?
85 SAHSA : Hello everyone, My best friend is down in BGI right now but trying to get back home earlier than planned. Does anyone know if RedJet is starting servi
86 BWIA 772 : Best of luck to them although I must say this livery like its predecessor is to busy for me! I really do not understand why when it comes to the bran
87 caribbean484 : No one knows when is their exact start up date but, its not going to be tomorrow since they still do no have their AOC and other route rights. Well i
88 Post contains images BW424 : All these plans are very ambitious and great. Also, on the JA forum, it seems they are returning to once "loss-making" destinations such as LAX and r
89 Post contains links caribbean484 : I share some of your concerns, now we should all read the Chairman's interview http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...Air-Jamaica-to-new-heights_8291
90 AA1818 : Nice livery. While I'm still not loving all the colour, It is fresh and crisp indeed. They really shoudl move the hangar facility eastward to allow f
91 windian425 : We wont be seeing RedJet gracing the Caribbean sky for at least another month... Your friend can use AE to SJU 4x per week from BGI...
92 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : I'm not sure about Dominica, but BWIA definitely used to fly St Kitts SKB with their MD80. We also have to take into consideration their CUR and SDQ
93 Post contains images JM017 : You know, I thought it was just me. And maybe I am the only person with a Jamaican flag next to my user name to have doubts about the new plan. My fi
94 beeweel15 : While I accept the $190mUS reserve and being profitable from day one what are the $500mUS in assets we are talking about because those 737s are all l
95 NASBWI : You beat me to the punch! I was thinking exactly the same thing. I do like it, however, so I don't mean it to be criticism. But yes, Air Pacific was
96 JM017 : That was a factor, sure. But it was not the main cause.
97 jm02 : I am not going to read too much into what the Chairman has said because of who he said it to and the circumstances. He was speaking to the former owne
98 Inbound : I remember a meeting with ex CEO Phillip Saunders about 3 years ago where he did say they hoped to join Star Alliance after 3 years of operation. So n
99 westindian425 : Emirates has the benefit of the Sultans' vision to make Dubai a global empire both in business and tourism. If T&T, Jamaica, and the rest of CARI
100 yellowtail : Star alliance would be a good fit....with CM, CO and UA......CM POS-PTY and KIN-PTY would grow exponentially....not to mention the feed CM would star
101 guyanam : Feed to go where. I dont see how CO/UA helps BW as they dont fly to any of these airlines hubs. Sorry dont see IAH as a route sustainable by a Caribbe
102 yellowtail : I didn't say CO/UA would provide feed....though CO IAH-POS then BW to BGI or GEO would become possible. Surely BW(Jm) would start to fly to *A hubs i
103 caribbean484 : OK EWR has very little chance of happening, NYC is an O/D airport with little connection beyond for Caribbean Airlines and Air Jamaica, so JFK will a
104 caribbean484 : Just Confirmed tonight by Caribbean Airlines: Air Jamaica/ Caribbean Airlines will return to LHR in July this year with the Boeing 777-200ER. The Boei
105 beeweel15 : Will this be an ACMI or a direct dry lease . Looks like the many trini pilots flying the 777 for Ethiad and Emirates will now come home. Well sometim
106 speedbird2263 : Don't forget the Jamaican Aviators too. -2263
107 BW424 : Ok, understood. However, this doesn't mean they are going about it in the right way. Most of us on here agreed previously that the 777 was too much t
108 trintocan : Indeed, never a dull moment! Well done to JM - a fresh new colour scheme and a relaunch. All the best to the Jamaican flag carrier. Ultimately I think
109 caribbean484 : The article he did yesterday was one of the, WTF moments. Then when I heard Jack Warner talked at the opening ceramony I was convinced that this man
110 Inbound : I heard the reason why they may not go 332 or 767 has to do with airlines not releasing these airplanes due to delays of the replacement 787 coming on
111 caribbean484 : Man I just as worried about it as you are. But what was said all along is true, CAL/JM cannot get A332/A333 because there are none on the market, the
112 Post contains images JM017 : For the Jamaica ops, BA and VS both fly to MBJ and KIN using 777 and 747s. Three carriers on these routes is overkill. And if BW/JM want to get in th
113 Post contains images westindian425 : I certainly hope they get this plane at a good, discounted rate, and work the numbers where the break even yields don't require a FULL plane year rou
114 Post contains links jm02 : Big move by President Obama who has decided to ease America's long-standing embargo on Cuba, allowing many Americans to travel there for the first tim
115 Post contains images westindian425 : This is good news, and I believe that the US carriers still cannot perform these flights, so BW/JM can take advantage....if the governing board can s
116 Post contains images speedbird2263 : I agree, I believe those ATR's that are going to be coming on stream in the near term are going to be cash cows given efficient placement and usage.
117 AirJamaica : Not only did JM get burned with the DL code share....they got burned VERY badly. Agree. And this will be the situation for quite a while I think. And
118 BW424 : THANKYOU!!! Almost everyone was being caught up in the glamour of getting 777s and then 787s. But from the time I read that article, my heart sunk. I
119 JM017 : Exactly. Five times weekly was too much.
120 trintocan : That is a major blow to KIN because remember, BA never stopped services to KIN - they retained it when they dropped MBJ in 2003. Talk about 787s is s
121 westindian425 : I honestly thought if the A330 was unavailable, the next best interim choice would be the 767. If (and I'm still unsure this is a good idea) the 787 w
122 NASBWI : I dunno, I think since the line is still open at Boeing, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to fill an additional order or two. That sounds like a be
123 caribbean484 : I thought so too, I really thought that if they were going to LHR they would bring in the 763ER and then the 788 will replace them. Given all the tal
124 AirJamaica : True. I also remember at one point were reports surfaced that they were considering axing KIN if revenue guarantee was not forthcoming. But somehow I
125 Post contains links BW985 : I noticed how a lot of people are worried about the announced expansions plans for Air Jamaica. I'm personally not worried about it (yet!). Just becau
126 jm02 : Just before JM left LHR they had signed a deal to transport perishable cargo through KIN from South America In full agreement with what you said - aft
127 Post contains images speedbird2263 : I definitely agree and second that, even listening to general airport banter from different members of airport staff here in KIN, the general consens
128 yellowtail : While I hear everyones thoughts on the 788s and I agree in principle...remember that from a marketing perspective.....JM.BW will have to chase some of
129 BWIA 772 : Look while all of these announcements does give one the impression that all of sudden BW is looking to do this major international expansion. The fact
130 caribbean484 : Well we await to see how the Empire Strikes Back, because the last time BA serviced POS was in 1994 and they left because of poor loads and a small p
131 SJOtoLIR : It would happen once Copa Airlines can operate PTY-KIN on a daily basis later... . In my view, both are serving different markets. CM KIN-PTY 2x week
132 2travel2know2 : CM can, but CM just doesn't want. If CM would run into loads ($$ not cargo) problems on a daily E190 KIN route the solution is to combine it with MBJ
133 Post contains images speedbird2263 : Well it IS our Tourism capital and we're a wee bit weary of not killing the goose that continues to lay the golden egg. What with brand Jamaica ridin
134 SJOtoLIR : Continental Airlines will start Newark - Port -au- Prince service this year. It will commence on June 09th as thrice a week and it goes daily on July
135 2travel2know2 : We all expect CO/UA to upgrade aircraft on that route at least in peak-season, even if EWR-PAP traffic can't be really compared to be as big as JFK-P
136 SJOtoLIR : The huge market really exists there. AA JFK-PAP 7x weekly with 763 and DL JFK-PAP 4x weekly with 757 are already attending the mentioned regions. Let
137 9YCAL : Maybe they can name the first tripple 7 for JM "Bolt 1" or "The spirit of Bolt"
138 Post contains links BW424 : "Caribbean Airlines Limited (CAL): When Politics Trumps Business" By: Peter Berkeley MIAMI - It’s finally over. The disagreement between Minister Wa
139 GUYAIR707 : The Government of Guyana has begun the work of extending and modernizing GEO, based on their 2011 budget. "Plans are in the works to extend the airstr
140 beeweel15 : Great to hear this. What about Ogle airfield how is that upgrade going .
141 GUYAIR707 : Last September OGL was certified as an international airport, and the runway is being extended to 4000 feet. According to the news, OGL can now accom
142 Post contains images caribbean484 : Caribbean Airlines new CEO will be announced next month, sources say the Board is in the final stages of granting a contract to an know international
143 A388 : That's good news, let's hope everything will run smoothly from now on. Good news but I remain cautious. I believe it when I see the official press re
144 AA1818 : Flew into GEO in early December- Airport kinda reminded me of TAB. Great approach into GRO though- fantastic views. Fantastic news. I wonder who the
145 Post contains images windian425 : 9Y-JMA departing BGI as BW415 19JAN11...
146 GUYAIR707 : Rumour has it that CAL would like to do that. Caricom Secretariat is on a road between OGL and Georgetown, so it would be great convenience for those
147 windian425 : Can anyone confirm the start of the CAL/BW Dash 8 flights between POS/GND/SVD/BGI? Much competition is needed on these routes.
148 SJOtoLIR : Copa Airlines is preparing to start Panama City - Nassau service. I will confirm that assessment once the schedule will be officially loaded in reliab
149 AA1818 : WOW!!! Did not see that one coming. Just assumed that BGI, CUR and MBJ would have come before NAS. In fact I never even considered NAS as a potential
150 captaink : GND only sees the 738 from POS and on to JFK and vice versa..
151 GUYAIR707 : I think with the props it would be a little longer than an hour, but it would be great not having to travel all the way to Timehri (GEO). Now if they
152 Post contains images westindian425 : Hmm...instead of the ILS (since it's being phased out now), why not just go straight for RNAV approaches? I think that investment would be better. Is
153 Post contains links SJOtoLIR : Dutch Antilles started 9H CUR-PTY 2x weekly in October 2010. . My thoughts exactly ! . Bahamas is not even a popular leisure destination for Latin Am
154 Post contains links yellowtail : Not to mention all those NAS higglers headed to the free zone. Release 4 times weekly from June http://noticias.terra.es/2011/econom...o-alegre-y-nas
155 SJOtoLIR : Copa Airlines is acting aggressively announcing CM PTY-NAS 4x weekly in June. It seems too much weekly seats for an untapped market. The shy CM PTY-SX
156 yellowtail : Guys, we are thinking this PTY-NAS route is about tourism..that will just be gravy.. This route will live and die on O&D...shoppers, bankers, ship
157 GUYAIR707 : Small plane crash in Guyana's North West. Quote from Stabroek News: "A light Cessna 206 aircraft was completely written off yesterday morning after th
158 speedbird2263 : Relieved to hear that he survived and lived to tell the tale. Here's to hoping 2011 will be a much better year than 2010 as far as Airplane crashes a
159 BW424 : Nice shot windian425! Welcome!! Always great to have another West Indian contributor. Very very interesting. Many of you guys on here already know my
160 Post contains links BW424 : "Trinidad & Tobago pins hopes on Air Travel Agreement to boost arrivals from India" "Trinidad & Tobago Tourism hopes that the soon to be signe
161 2travel2know2 : Add to that VFR connecting traffic between NAS and SDQ/PUJ/STI/PAP/POS if CM is to R.O:N. in NAS. Students from Bahamas @ POS U.W.I. might be very ha
162 AA1818 : Thatseems like a mighty long detour for traffic going from NAS to SDQ, PUJ, STI and PAP. POS could work but I believe AA will still have a strangleho
163 2travel2know2 : Tell that to CM's HAV PAP/SDQ/PUJ/STI/KIN traffic. For HAV-Dominican Republic is all about the frequencies offered. CM in NAS before BZE, GCM, BGI, G
164 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : Thank you guys. CAL wants to ship more cargo out of Guyana, for the local agri producers: "Cargo Sales Executive with Caribbean Airlines, Ken Joseph
165 Post contains images A388 : I totally agree with you on this as well. Everybody says that the 777 is too big for Caribbean Airlines but as I have said before, maybe the LHR rout
166 SJOtoLIR : This is the challenge for Copa Airlines. As commented into the Central American aviation thread, the airline is offering roughly 125 weekly flights t
167 A388 : I agree with AA1818 as well. AA is just too dominent from MIA to the Caribbean. CM will be any threat to AA for connections to the Caribbean. AA just
168 GUYAIR707 : The capacity of the 777 model BW/JM is getting is similar to the A340-300's that BW/JM had? Assuming that is so, then it is not unrealistic that the
169 Post contains images speedbird2263 : I share the sentiment. One must also remember that cargo still exists and with LHR there's money to be made with non-breathing freight. The 777-200ER
170 BWIA 772 : So I took BW 415 to POS and as usual the service was good. The flight attendants were nice however I really must say that I was missing the hot ladies
171 westindian425 : LMBO!! During my days with CO, I was so grateful to be able to use my uniform to expedite the process when I flew in for a few days. It was a mess wh
172 N623JB : There have been rumors of JetBlue starting flights from JFK to GEO and it has been coming from more than 1 person, as well as POS.
173 Post contains links caribbean484 : I am not sure, maybe Inbound can give us an idea of the SOP CAL has for approaches into POS. I do remember however, that Approach from BGI and TAB us
174 GUYAIR707 : I hope B6 bears in mind that pax GEO bound are usually overweight or max'ed out.,,I don't think the A320 could handle that. Still it would add to the
175 Inbound : Hey 772, it has to do with where you came from. The 415 approaches Trinidad from an East to West direction and more or less cuts across the northern
176 BWIA 772 : Thank you so much Inbound! I really prefer the Diego Martin Valley approach hahahahaa. I flew in PBM I did not realize that it still has the Sun Coun
177 yellowtail : This is jsut gossip....as of right now...and unless someone busts out a large checkbook for a rev guarantee.....B6 will be focussing on SJU this year
178 beeweel15 : I wonder If i got a plane or two if there are several of you on here that can come together and run an efficient profitable operation. Thats a challen
179 Post contains images westindian425 : What other wall?! Business ventures have gotten started under very unorthodox circumstances, so you never know!
180 N623JB : To be honest, I think that JetBlue is missing the boat with BZE and other Central American & Caribbean destinations(B6 got to jump in to these co
181 Post contains links and images TransIsland : http://www.tribune242.com/news/01222011_copa-airlines_news_pg1 Copa to start Panama City - Nassau/Bahamas in June.
182 2travel2know2 : According to article, CM flights will be daytime, no R.O.N., so no immediate connection between NAS and PUJ/STI/PAP/POS.
183 yellowtail : They are but I guess mgmnt feels the need to expand SJU before AA changes their minds... Looks like F9 will beat B6 to some of the western caribbean
184 westindian425 : jetBlue is being very methodical with its growth. You cannot bite off more than you can chew. The expansions into Central American may come, but I th
185 SJOtoLIR : From the last press release related to the new COPA's Panama City - Nassau service: "The new Copa Airlines service will attract more visitors from the
186 Post contains links BW424 : "CAL to expand route system to Eastern Caribbean" "Caribbean Airlines has plans to expand its route system to include some of the other Eastern Caribb
187 SJOtoLIR : American Eagle will cancel several flights operating out of San Juan: MQ/AA [SJU-AXA]............Discontinued on April 05 MQ/AA [SJU-LRM]............D
188 BW424 : Well, this has been announced for a while now. So POS will lose its connection to SJU. I don't see it as a big deal though. A lot of people I know th
189 GUYAIR707 : This is sweet news. Was just asking why this wasn't done a long time ago. Now Delta will have some competition. It is a little more complicated than
190 A388 : Good question, I've heard in the past that getting a ETOPS certification is very difficult but I never knew why that is. We need an expert who can ex
191 BWIA 772 : If BW had been planning to begin operation of twin jets over the atlantic for quite sometime one should be pretty sure that BW is already doing what
192 A388 : Yes, I totally agree on this as well. I'm just interested in knowing what needs to be done to get that ETOPS certification for transatlantic flights.
193 guyanam : GEO and POS pax will love Jetblue. What they will NOT love is intransits thru SJU unless its to cities other than NYC or MIA.
194 BW424 : Point taken. I hope this is the case. I agree. This routing really should not be a problem passenger wise. It does the nonstop JFK service, but at th
195 Post contains links BW424 : "Brazilian firm gets 7.2b job" "A Brazilian construction firm, Construtora OAS, has been awarded the multi-billion dollar construction contract for th
196 Post contains images westindian425 : Aaahhh....I see what you mean! Add Portuguese to the languages being learned in Trinidad. Not too far from Spanish, so it shouldn't be that difficult
197 Post contains images 2travel2know2 : That or you'll see the number of connecting passengers in PTY between POS and GRU/GIG/CNF/POS sharply rise. A thrice weekly POS-FOR, neither POS-BEL
198 A388 : Let's stay realistic here. The fact that one company from Brazil is selected to do some work in Trinidad will not trigger or solidify anything. We al
199 AA1818 : It will be interesting to see what new routes CAL has up its sleeves. Im hoping for a few more cities in Venezuela- CAL can mint it there offering co
200 2travel2know2 : While BW could get quite a number of passengers if flying to PZO or even POS-MAR-KIN, POS-CCS-KIN as long as immediate connections to/from MIA/FLL/JF
201 2travel2know2 : I was checking POS on Google Earth and it looks like there is room 1.5-2Km northeast, northwest or southwest for a 2nd runway, parallel to the existin
202 A388 : Yes, I agree on that too. It is a start to do more business with Brazil but much more is probably needed if Trinidad wants to attract more business r
203 LimaFoxTango : Why? Traffic at POS hasn't reached to the point where it warrants a second runway. The only airport in the eastern Caribbean with two active runways
204 Post contains links caribbean484 : Ok fellas, ATR will lease CAL 2 ATR72-500 from next month to operate the POS-TAB route to give pilots and engineers a feel for the aircraft. This will
205 BW424 : Construction of a second runway has been studied. But this is will only be built only when demand signals for one. Appreciate the developments 484. R
206 Post contains links OP3000 : I have a feeling CAL faces the same obstacle every foreign airline operating in Venezuela does. Incidentally, yesterday I read this article about the
207 Post contains links BW424 : Very much looks so. Let's see if they will use them on JFK-GEO and POS-JFK to maximize utilisation. What's also very noteworthy is that, from the art
208 OP3000 : Indeed. Too much easy credit can be a dangerous thing. We know all too well what that kind of free-spending on pride routes has brought both their T&
209 Post contains images BW424 : Well, I just spoke with a very good source and the person told me all Nicholas is saying is the same deal, but in different words. With respect to "b
210 Post contains links BW424 : New thread up.... Across The Pond We Go- Caribbean Aviation 85 (by BW424 Jan 27 2011 in Civil Aviation)
211 Post contains images windian425 : What I can say is that we need to be patient with the whole regulation process in BGI as its a huge challenge at the moment... The Civil Aviation Dep
212 windian425 : 1w POS-BGI-LHR is a joke considering the competition from VS and BA... Hopefully they will increase to 3w as a minimum service.
213 windian425 : Any idea on the routing for the SVD and GND flights? Is BGI still in the picture?
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