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PIA Resuming Colombo And Athens  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

From 19 February PK will restart twice weekly KHI-CMB service with A310, operation was suspended in 2007.

PK874 1530 KHI 1930 CMB -2-4-6-
PK875 2045 CMB 2340 KHI -2-4-6-

PK also considering resuming ATH from June, its been suspended since 2007 according to an article in a local daily.

[Edited 2011-01-01 10:23:33]

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User currently offlineBoeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4446 times:

Quoting 777way (Thread starter):
PK also considering resuming ATH from June

Why ATH?! Is there that significant a Pakistani population there?!


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4427 times:

^ Around 30,000, they have been serving ATH since early 70s.

Glasgow may get suspended this summer.

[Edited 2011-01-01 10:51:26]

User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27003 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

Quoting Boeing747_600 (Reply 1):
Why ATH?! Is there that significant a Pakistani population there?!

Yes a sizable amount most use the Gulf carriers to travel back I wonder how much PK can take off the Gulf carriers as its low yield migrant workers that use the ATH-Gulf-Pakistan flights. If PK can offer low fares and 30KG this will be the carrott.


User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4285 times:

The suspension of GLA has already been announced, from end Jan. Their unreliable schedule, only twice weekly departures on ageing A310's will no doubt not be missed as EK aims for twice daily GLA-DXB with swift onward connections to Pakistan.

User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4082 times:

Has there been much direct Pakistan-Sri Lanka service before?


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User currently offlineLuftyMatt From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 428 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

I'm surprised that PK doesn't already operate CMB, I'm sure it will do well for them.

Does PK still operate HKG? Or has that route been dropped? I also noticed in their timetable to MAN that KHI has been dropped, they seem to be focusing on ISB and LHE. Any news as to wheather KHI will be reInstated out of MAN?



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User currently offlinezizou From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 1535 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3751 times:

there is a number services coming back to Sri Lanka lately. In addition to PIA, Gulf Air and Ethiad have resumed services to Colombo in the last year or so.

User currently offlinedirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1687 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3670 times:

What's the market like for Pakistan-CMB? Is there a genuine market or is this merely for political purposes?

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3579 times:

Though PIA operated scheduled 747s to CMB in addition to A310 and 737 before suspending the route, I think it could be political.

Quoting LuftyMatt (Reply 6):

CMB was served uptil March 2007, its not a new destination. HKG continues but from Islamabad only, KHI-MAN-JFK service also continues so KHI-MAN remain linked.

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 5):

Yes PK have been serving CMB since the late 60s or early 70s, like I said they used 747s there as well a few years back, in the 70s and 80s CMB was linked to Far East using 747 and Dc-10, while Air Lanka used to fly L1011s via KHI to Europe they even did the 747 via KHI to UK when they had those, other than that they flew KHI-BOM-CMB as both Air Lanka and Sri Lankan, a few times they have also brought in A330, and had applied for CMB-DEL-LHE service which didnt materialise, even Air Ceylon served KHI continuing westwards.


User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

I did post a thread about this, and then replied to this thread too. It's pretty much political, probably, as this was announced during Pakistan President's Sri Lanka visit. UL flies four weekly KHI-CMB aboard A320s. The first flight is scheduled for 17FEB in time for the first match of Cricket World Cup on 19FEB, being played in Sri Lanka.


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

The promo for CMB and its thrice weekly http://www.piac.com.pk/PIA_GSD/images/khi-cmb-ad.jpg

Quoting BY738 (Reply 4):
The suspension of GLA has already been announced, from end Jan.

Yes last flight 20 January, US operations rumored to end this summer as well, traffic to be funnelled through Istanbul by Turkish Airlines.

[Edited 2011-01-03 09:38:58]

User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4785 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

It will be a total waste for PIA returning to ATH in any manner what so ever.

Even these 3 weekly CMB flights you see wont last more than a year primarily due to its bad flight schedule which doesnt allow convenient onward connections to UK/JFK/YYZ/ORD/Middle East.


User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

there were rumours of TK IST GLA also which could have funnelled pax, now second daily EK more likely

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

^ I meant TK will fly PIA pax to USA from IST.

User currently offlinecloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3049 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 11):

Yes last flight 20 January, US operations rumored to end this summer as well, traffic to be funnelled through Istanbul by Turkish Airlines.

Are you serious? All US operations, including New York? So what will PK use their 772LRs for then?



Boston, USA
User currently offlineBoeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting cloud4000 (Reply 15):
Are you serious? All US operations, including New York? So what will PK use their 772LRs for then?

Didn't the US approve non-stop flights from at least one airport (LHE?) to the US? If so, shouldn't this be a major revenue earner for PK? What gives with cancelling US routes, of all routes and starting a route to ATH to cater to what? a diaspora of some 15,000 people?! Makes absolutely no sense to me.



[Edited 2011-01-03 13:48:18]

User currently offlinecloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2979 times:

Quoting Boeing747_600 (Reply 16):

Didn't the US approve non-stop flights from at least one airport (LHE?) to the US? If so, shouldn't this be a major revenue earner for PK? What gives with cancelling US routes, of all routes and starting a route to ATH to cater to what? a diaspora of some 15,000 people?! Makes absolutely no sense to me.

PK does indeed fly LHE-JFK non-stop, for the moment. The problem with PIA is that it's a government-owned entity so politics plays a very big role in its operations. Business decisions can be dictated by government whim: start this route or that route. Fly to ATH because this minister's relatives lives there. It's a shame because PIA once had a good reputation.



Boston, USA
User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2934 times:

Well, wonder why they've put a camel in the ad about Sri Lanka - it's one animal type that doesn't live here.  
Does anybody know how this will affect UL's four weekly flights ? Or could PIA contribute to growth, as more Pakistanis will tend to try the route as it's flown by PIA ?



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User currently offlineindcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

Does anyone know if India allows or will allow PIA flights over Indian Airspace?

User currently offlinecloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

Quoting indcwby (Reply 19):
Does anyone know if India allows or will allow PIA flights over Indian Airspace?

Yes they do and Pakistan reciprocates in kind to Indian aircraft. A few years, when India-Pakistan tension was rising, India banned all PIA flights from transiting its airspace. As a result, PIA had to temporary halt flight or find alternative routes.



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User currently offlineairceo From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

I could be losing my mind, but I'm pretty sure I once flew PK from CMB to MLE due to UL overbooking me. Did the CMB service use to terminate in MLE? This would have been around '95-'97.

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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

^ Yes PIA served MLE via CMB, Maldives was dropped in 99-2000 season.

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 18):
Well, wonder why they've put a camel in the ad about Sri Lanka

It represents Pakistan.

Quoting cloud4000 (Reply 17):

PK does indeed fly LHE-JFK non-stop, for the moment.

They do? or did you mean JFK-LHE.

Quoting cloud4000 (Reply 15):
Are you serious? All US operations, including New York? So what will PK use their 772LRs for then?

LR's are used all over and specifically to Toronto so no loss there, as it is this is just a rumor, lets wait and see.


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