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United B777 At YYZ  
User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5048 posts, RR: 43
Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10462 times:

Yesterday evening when returning to YYZ, I noticed a United B777 parked at gate 173 at Terminal One. It was in the new "merged" colours.

Any ideas what it was doing in YYZ?


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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10475 times:

It was a diversion... ORD-FRA flight that diverted due to a 'communications problem'.


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User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10462 times:

As much as I hate posting an link to the Toronto Star:

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/...makes-emergency-landing-at-pearson

I believe I saw this aircraft fly over my house for 23 last night just before 10:00pm, I recall mostly because it was lower than most aircraft are at that stage of the approach (maybe something to do with the comm problem?)

YYZRWY23



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User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5048 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10447 times:

Thanks!

Wow, that took less than 3 minutes.
(Gotta love this site!)



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User currently offlinegolfradio From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10297 times:

Quoting longhauler (Thread starter):
It was in the new "merged" colours.

Did you get any pictures?


User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5048 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10086 times:

Quoting golfradio (Reply 4):
Did you get any pictures?


No, I was taxiing the plane at the time. The F/O was busy or I would have tossed him my camera.  



Never gonna grow up, never gonna slow down .... Barefoot Blue Jean Night
User currently offline_AA_777_MAN From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10048 times:

Hmmm... I was wondering why UA ferried a 777 from ORD-YYZ last night.

User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9990 times:

I'm surprised no one has posted a YouTube video of the plane landing, along with background music....Led Zep's "Communications Breakdown".

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9463 times:

The diversion apparently resulted from the captain spilling coffee on the radio equipment. Following from Transport Canada daily incident reports:

The United Airlines Boeing 777-200 aircraft (operating as UAL940) was on a scheduled IFR flight from Chicago (O'Hare) International Airport, IL, USA (KORD) to Frankfurt International Airport, Germany (EDDF). The flight crew advised that they had communication problems and subsequently reported that they were experiencing navigation problems as well. The flight crew cycled through codes 7500 and 7600. With the help of their company dispatch staff, the flight crew confirmed the problem to be a NAV/communication issue and not a valid code 7500. The flight crew initially diverted to return to Chicago (KORD) but subsequently declared an emergency, squawked code 7700 at 0231Z and diverted to Toronto (CYYZ). ARFF services were notified and responded. The aircraft landed on runway 23 at 0253Z without incident.

UPDATE: Supplemental information from the Federal Aviation Administration: TSOC staff reported that the United Air Lines, Inc. corporate office had indicated that the Pilot in Command had inadvertently squawked a 7500 code after spilling coffee on the aircraft's radio equipment, which interfered with the communications equipment. The aircraft was subsequently squawking code 7600. After trying to return to Chicago (KORD), the flight crew diverted to land at Toronto (CYYZ) without incident.


[Edited 2011-01-04 17:19:02]

User currently offlineAAMDanny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9443 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):

Well... this is why flight deck crew should drink out of cups with lids that are spill-proof, very popular standard operating proceedure here in the EU with many Airlines.... I believe there was a First Choice Airways A320/321 in IBZ where one of the pilots spilt coffee on the centre console causing the aircraft to be grounded for several days.


User currently offlinecitationjet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2444 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9424 times:

The captain spilled coffee on the communications equipment.


United Airlines B772 near Toronto on Jan 3rd 2011, spilled coffee causes loss of communication.
"The FAA reported after contact with the company, that the pilot in command had spilled coffee over the radio equipment which interfered with the communication equipment. He inadvertently sent the unlawful interference code, then changed to loss of communication code."

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=435ad471&opt=0

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User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5048 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9424 times:

Why on earth would they squawk 7500???

Funny as it sounds, but I have been bringing a Marvin the Martian "sippy cup" with me for close to 20 years! I love the looks at security, but they never ask about it.



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User currently offlinekeagkid101 From Portugal, joined Mar 2010, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9369 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 5):
No, I was taxiing the plane at the time.

Just curious, what kind of aircraft were you taxiing?


User currently offlinese210 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9276 times:

Quoting citationjet (Reply 10):
The captain spilled coffee on the communications equipment.

Movie comes to mind: Fate Is the Hunter


User currently offlinelnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9186 times:

LOL

Here's the report about this particular incident - HAHA

http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local...104_pearson/20110104/?hub=CP24Home

Appears the Captain has egg all over his face - er, I mean, Coffee all over his instruments  

1011yyz



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User currently offlinegr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3116 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9109 times:

Quoting lnglive1011yyz (Reply 14):
Appears the Captain has egg all over his face - er, I mean, Coffee all over his instruments

Wonder if he visited the Tim Hortons counter at YYZ after getting off....much safer cups.....and better coffee 


User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5048 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8248 times:

Quoting keagkid101 (Reply 12):
Just curious, what kind of aircraft were you taxiing?

B767-300ER



Never gonna grow up, never gonna slow down .... Barefoot Blue Jean Night
User currently offlineAirlineEcon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7543 times:

I hope for the captains sake it was regular and not decaf. He must have had a late night dealing with the fallout.

User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1025 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7440 times:

.. at least he didn't eat the fish...   


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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13138 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6759 times:

This incident does raise some questions as to how some spilled coffee can cause such a problem. I would think there would be better sealing of the panels of such critical equipment to limit intrusions of liquids, dust, ect. as well as the costs of a diversion as in this case.

Perhaps as others have suggested here there should be rules by airlines or NTSB/FAA rules as in the EU requiring cockpit staff to use secure tops on all beverage service containers to limit spills if the are spilled from a move of an arm or if there is turbulence.


User currently offlineSankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6416 times:

I am actually quite surprised (impressed?) that coffee and beverage spills in the flight deck have not resulted in more incidents over the years. Think about it... does not take much to cause a spill in such a cramped environment.

Just like I am also puzzled (relieved) that to my knowledge, there has never been an aircraft accident caused by lit cigarettes setting something on fire, given how common smoking on-board was until the 1990s! Looking back now, I am amazed smoking was ever allowed on board aircraft, for safety reasons alone.


User currently offlinepliukait From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6193 times:

Just curious....are there cup-holders in the cockpit?

User currently offlinefaro From Egypt, joined Aug 2007, 1556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6119 times:

A recent thread on the subject:

Liquid Spills On The Pedestal Avionics (by faro Oct 2 2010 in Tech Ops)

Refer to reply 5 amongst others.

Faro



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User currently offlinekl692 From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5174 times:

Now that is one expensive cup of coffee. Gotta feel bad for the pilot here


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User currently offlineGonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1992 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

Quoting kl692 (Reply 23):
Gotta feel bad for the pilot here

Me too. I bet he is at the phone right now in a "hot" meeting with the chief pilot.
Let's hope the colleagues don't be too cruel with this guy, some times the jokes are the worst punishment.

Rgds.,

G.



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25 Post contains images 808TWA : So in theory...coffee brought down an airliner? Don't tell the TSA this or they'll be banning this next from on-board services!
26 Scotland1979 : I got the message from the guy.... He spoke to the United mechanics in the morning while onboard the UA 777. They told him the reason the flt diverted
27 Post contains images IBOAviator : As pathetic as that sounds, it's so true. Well said! It would be interesting to hear the voice recordings shortly following his misfortune. Having be
28 maxpower1954 : The 1964 movie "Fate Is The Hunter" , as se210 posted had this scenario. It was on Turner Classic Movies New Year's Day. For those that have never see
29 maxpower1954 : That would be HF communication, as UHF comm is for military aircraft only. Russ Farris
30 RJLover : I sure as heck hope not! Mistakes happen! In this case, this particular mistake cost quite a bit of money so I highly, highly doubt he walked away wi
31 ltbewr : Most probably he will have to serve some unpaid time off duty as well as spend some time in the training facility. I also hope (as I noted before) th
32 longhauler : The Captain is responsible for his ship. He/She will take responsibility for this occurrence. That being said though, he may not have been the actual
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