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Turning Round A 747 In 2 Hrs, Video?  
User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3367 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11959 times:

Any web site/link for this?
I was looking at Flightradar24.com and see that the CX253 has just landed 8pm local at LHR and is due to depart at 10pm as CX254 to HKG, 2 hours to unload passengers and cargo and catering, clean and restock aircraft and be ready for departure in under 2 hrs, awesome work.
Any time stop video on any website for this type of operation? TIA  


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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1692 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11884 times:

This is not no 'special' as it seems; KLM's 744's turn-around @ IAH in the same amount of time (Arr 1400 Dep 1615)...


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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11871 times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6l4iMGKed0

Here is an EZY 737 being turned around.


User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1392 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11878 times:

I agree with MH017..... I have seen it done in less time than that.........


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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21590 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11835 times:

It's not at all uncommon. 2 hour turns are fine for a 747 if no checks are required. Same for a 777. The 4 hour turns you often see scheduled are because the aircraft requires some minor checks and maintenance during the turns, so they schedule it in that way.

Take a look at how AA runs their NRT operation. Some aircraft only spend 2 hours, others 4+, for this reason. At least that's how AA explains it.



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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11835 times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNr4hoVvfv8&feature=related
SQ 330

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8cstnFKgzo&feature=related
MH777

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9zP9np0CXA&feature=related
The day in the life of an airport stand at LHR


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 11500 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 5):
The day in the life of an airport stand at LHR

That's Cool..!!



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User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11132 times:

I have no idea what the LH schedule is right now for DEN-FRA but in the past I have watched this A346 turn VERY quickly. I have seen it turn several times in just the time I was waiting to get on my CO flight so I know it must not have taken too much time! The cargo seems to be what takes the longest, it also happens to be my favorite thing to watch in a turn!


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User currently offlineglbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 770 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10979 times:

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 7):
I have no idea what the LH schedule is right now for DEN-FRA but in the past I have watched this A346 turn VERY quickly.

Haven't looked it up, but it certainly is at or less than two hours. I usually sit in the RCC across the ramp and wait for it to arrive around 3:30 or 4:00. When it does I know it's time to start over to the other concourse and by the time I get there they are close to boarding the return flight. The cleaning crews must really hustle on that one.


User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 10812 times:

Quoting glbltrvlr (Reply 8):
Haven't looked it up, but it certainly is at or less than two hours. I usually sit in the RCC across the ramp and wait for it to arrive around 3:30 or 4:00. When it does I know it's time to start over to the other concourse and by the time I get there they are close to boarding the return flight. The cleaning crews must really hustle on that one.

Showing arrival at 15:45 and departing at 17:40, thats pretty good for that big bird and as far as I know its always completely full with cargo. Loads are very good also.



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1692 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10524 times:

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 7):
I have no idea what the LH schedule is right now for DEN-FRA but in the past I have watched this A346 turn VERY quickly

Checked the schedule for 10jan11, for instance:

LH0446 arr 1550 and LH0447 dep 1740, so less than 2 hours too...

[Edited 2011-01-05 00:55:18]


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User currently offlinesan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10525 times:

Quoting glbltrvlr (Reply 8):

Haven't looked it up, but it certainly is at or less than two hours. I usually sit in the RCC across the ramp and wait for it to arrive around 3:30 or 4:00. When it does I know it's time to start over to the other concourse and by the time I get there they are close to boarding the return flight. The cleaning crews must really hustle on that one.

When I worked Terminal E at BOS handling EI, AF, VS, AZ, AP, and AY, we could finish our loading and unloading on the ramp in well under an hour if we had enough personnel- ie enough to handle the offload into customs while another group did the upload. Even if we only had the bare minimum of agents assigned to a flight (4), we could still complete that process in an hour and a half if we hustled. The process that ALWAYS took the longest was cleaning the aircraft. That could easily take almost two hours on the largest aircraft, and then add the time to board and deplane and that's what added up to the longer turnaround times.



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User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 859 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10106 times:

Kudos to ground crew all over the world for unload-load cargo freight food drinks etc that we can fly on time

//Mike      



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User currently onlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1558 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10014 times:

60mins is scheduled turnaround for QR regardless of aircraft size although due to labour costs some stations have received and exception to allow 70-80mins. There is no grace period, anything after these times is an a delay. EK on the other hand have a 90min turn and a grace period if 3mins before it is delayed...

User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7396 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9730 times:

We turn our jumbos around in 1.30 if not US bound, and 1h45 if needing a full security search....2h is easy.

The other 744 operators to AKL also do in under 2h...


User currently offlineTinosky From Canada, joined Mar 2010, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6578 times:

When I was flying YVR - NRT on JL last september, they had a 747 come in 1 hour 15 minutes before departure. We lifted off on time. Way shorter than 2 hours.

TInosky~


User currently offlineIowa744Fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6030 times:

2 hours or less is standard for SQ's daytime operations on the West Coast. SQ 11/12 turns in 2 hours in LAX (arr. 1115 and dep. at 1315, and I think that it used to be even less at around an hour and 45 minutes. Right now, the scheduled turn time for this flight when it upgrades to an A380 on March 27th only increases by 15 minutes (arr. 1330 and dep. at 1545). In SFO, they turn 15/16 in 1 hour and 35 minutes (arr. 1115 and dep. at 1250).

User currently offlineicelandair75w From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5970 times:

We turned an AF 747 in BOS yesterday in just about that time  

User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

I have always wondered what was so impressive about the WN turn times however I have never really questioned it as that is not something I have ever had to deal with. When I was employed with F9 and would fly non-rev or for company business it was always standard to help the FA's clean the plane and cross the seatbelts before I got off and this didn't take much time at all. With the minimal catering carts being loaded and not that much cargo now I'm really unimpressed with their turn times!


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19262 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

AirAsia X has 1h 15m turnarounds for its 343s scheduled at STN (from KUL, around 14 hours away) on particular days. E.g., on a Tuesday in July:

KUL-STN: 1430-2140
STN-KUL: 2255-1910

[Edited 2011-01-05 11:18:53]


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User currently offlinecontrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4151 times:

2 hours? I know plenty of people that work 747 turns and do it in far less time. I've done one in an hour but the crew that was on that flight were the best upstairs as well. Flight was a tad light also but that has never happened again. Everyone from ground, provo, fueler, lav and water hit that plane at the same time as soon as it blocked in. To this day we still talk about doing that turn.


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User currently offlinegrimey From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4151 times:

When I was in HAV a couple of years ago I see the AF B747 that I was going home on being turned around in 2 hours. A bunch of cleaners got on the aircraft wearing special vacuum cleaners on their backs it looked like the ghostbusters were in action.

A lot of widebodies get longer then 2 hours to turn around because of restricted times at aiports. Example: BA flight arrives in JFK at 14:00 (local) but cannot leave until 18:00 due to time restrictions & pax arrival time in LHR; if they had a 2 hour turn around they would arrive in LHR at 4 in the morning.

That's only one quick example that came to mind but you know what I mean


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6359 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

TA's 762s used to be turned in BZE in 20 min by the legendary Rudy Coye in the late 80's. Boeing even came to watch him do it.


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User currently offlinecontrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 22):
TA's 762s used to be turned in BZE in 20 min by the legendary Rudy Coye in the late 80's. Boeing even came to watch him do it.

Now thats a video I wanna see.



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User currently offlinetheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3454 times:

I have witnessed a 747-400 arriving full being turned around for a full outbound flight within 90 mins.

25 Viscount724 : BA 744 turnaround at YVR is 2 hrs. Arrives 1830, leaves 2030.
26 aerorobnz : Impressive, though how many aircraft are on the ground at any one time in BZE? My personal bests 44min for a 763, 1h 10 shorthaul 744, 1h 25min longh
27 Post contains links will : http://www.youtube.com/user/NudIaug#p/u/8/8aMKC4f23Ww SQ B777.....
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