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Is Meridiana Heading Towards OneWorld?!  
User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2499 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5609 times:

Meridiana is sharing codes with Finnair, Iberia and BA. It ceased its code share agreement with KL. Do you think IG can be the next European partner of OneWorld? Or may be an acquisition of the IAG group (BA-IB?)


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User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

Or maybe they are going towards the end...they found themselves in a difficult situation.

[Edited 2011-01-05 03:27:32]

User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2499 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5328 times:

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 1):
they found themselves in a difficult situation.

Please eleborate! I thoutgh Meridiana was floated in the stock exchange and things were going well with the integration of eurofly.



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5074 times:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridiana_Fly_destinations

Something does not seem right with that Indonesian listing.

What are the future plans of this airline. How is it performing financially? Future fleet plans?

It certainly seems like they would make a nice addition to the IAG group as well as oneworld.

AA1818



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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5074 times:

I can't see Meridiana adding any value to Oneworld.


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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5024 times:

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 4):
I can't see Meridiana adding any value to Oneworld.

They can certainly add value to IAG, and thus expand oneworld's offering. As a standalone they add little, but as part of IAG they could be used to expand the Eu and African offering of IAG and thus offer oneworld clients more options.

AA1818



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User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 4730 times:

They are now Meridianafly. They have merged with EUROFLY.. they have a fleet of 4 A319, 12 A320, 3 A330s, 17 MD82 and also use 2 ATR42s.

They are Italys second biggest airline now.


User currently offlineGSTBA From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 465 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

IG would fit well into the OW alliance. OW is the only alliance that does not have a member based in Italy. In adding IG OW would gain access to the Italian domestic market. Which in turn would take market share from Alitalia and Skyteam who dominate the Italian transfer market at the moment.

User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2499 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 4406 times:

MeridianFly can certainly be of benefit to OW. OW has many hubs at the edge of Europe : MAD for South America, HEL for Asia, LHR for North America and MeridianaFly can be the airline based at MXP to Africa.... It can also serve as a good connection to Italy (FLR, CTA, PMO, BLQ and VCE)... I think IAG should invest in IG and integrate it.


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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 4334 times:

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 4):
I can't see Meridiana adding any value to Oneworld.

I can see some route value in IG ( i.e. JFK-MXP). However, there are some holes in their network. LHR doesn't connect to MXP or FCO, and no german routes.

Meridiana refurbished their cabins last April, so their seats are fairly decent.



I would also like to see them drop the "fly" from their name and just use Meridiana. Their current name sounds cheap and LCC-ish.

IG's website is fairly decent for a small airline, and they do have a FF program that could easily blend in with the OW standards.



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User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2499 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 4320 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 9):
I can see some route value in IG ( i.e. JFK-MXP). However, there are some holes in their network. LHR doesn't connect to MXP or FCO, and no german routes

They do not need to fly to LHR.. BA is having multiple daily flights from LHR to FCO, LIN, MXP, PSA and VCE.
What they need to do it to cooperate at both ends with better connections.



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User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 2):
Please eleborate! I thoutgh Meridiana was floated in the stock exchange and things were going well with the integration of eurofly.

Looks like things are not going that well, the new 2011 Business Plan was expected within 1st half of Dec, but there is still no trace of it. Maybe this month we'll finally get to know something more.
Meridiana historically was the "airline of Sardinia" where they mantain their core-business plus Florence where there is a restricted airport due to the short rwy length......but AZ is entering the market by introducing AMS and CTA, both already covered by IG. No way to make them work with AZ, especially AMS where the codeshare with KL will be shifted from IG to AZ flights (there is a JV deal between Alitalia & KLM between Italy and The Netherlands).
Moreover, there are several routes, especially from North to South of Italy not confimed yet for next summer season. It's a confusing situation so far, so we have to wait for the new BP in the upcoming weeks.


User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 hours ago) and read 4015 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 9):
I would also like to see them drop the "fly" from their name and just use Meridiana. Their current name sounds cheap and LCC-ish.

Meridiana merged with EuroFLY.. they wont drop the fly its part of the new brand.
Im just waiting to see what scheme they come out with.. so far its all white planes with meridianafly written on them.

Things are not negative or in bad shape for the company but they need to get their new identity and strategy up and running sooner rather then later!


User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2499 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 12):
Things are not negative or in bad shape for the company but they need to get their new identity and strategy up and running sooner rather then later!

What MeridianaFly needs is an alliance or an airline promoting it... Except in Italy, not everyone knows Meridiana... When you talk about Italian airlines, only Alitalia comes to the mind of most of the people...



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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 12):
Meridiana merged with EuroFLY.. they wont drop the fly its part of the new brand.

I realize its part of the new brand, but it still sounds like a cheap Euro LCC. The Eurofly name sounded cheap on its own and should not have been carried over in any way.

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 12):
Im just waiting to see what scheme they come out with.. so far its all white planes with meridianafly written on them.

Isn't that the livery, or is that an interim paint job? It does look awful. I like the older livery with the red tails. That looked more professional.

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 13):
What MeridianaFly needs is an alliance or an airline promoting it

The problem is IG's network doesn't allow for much connectivity with other carriers. AA pax flying into FCO or MXP can't connect to FLR, or VCE. There are far too many point to point flights in their network. Then there's the issue of IG having to operate out of MXP and LIN.



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