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JAL To Operate Last A300-600R Service On 26MAR11  
User currently offlineColAvionLover From Panama, joined Dec 2008, 108 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 9865 times:
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Just saw this on my twitter.
A300 will be a very missed plane. I was able to see it once with American Airlines landing at Panama's Tocumen Int'l.
It's a very noisy plane, btw. Something many will miss too.


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User currently offlinejayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 9782 times:

First the 747, and now the A300  
I wonder what will be the next...



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15735 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 9766 times:

Quoting jayeshrulz (Reply 1):
I wonder what will be the next...

Hopefully profitability.



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4325 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 9541 times:

Quoting jayeshrulz (Reply 1):
I wonder what will be the next...

MD-90s will be sold to Delta, probably also all out of service by late 2011



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineColAvionLover From Panama, joined Dec 2008, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 9532 times:
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So what's the idea of buying them? Are those jets in bargain?
If somebody knows, how much are them going to cost to DL?



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4325 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 9483 times:

Quoting ColAvionLover (Reply 4):
So what's the idea of buying them? Are those jets in bargain?
If somebody knows, how much are them going to cost to DL?

Exactly, because nobody else wants MD-90s, Delta can pick them up for around $ 4 million a piece. They have a fleet of them already and the economics aren't that bad, especially including the low purchase/write off costs. Their accountants figured out it was cheaper and more efficient to take more MD-90s, also to get economies of scale combined with their original fleet of around 17, then buying more 738s or A-320s.



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineColAvionLover From Panama, joined Dec 2008, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 9342 times:
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Nice!
If I had the money, I certainly buy a pair or more of those. One for my own use, and the other ones for making a hotel (?). Like the Jumbo Hostel!
But coming back to the strategy, a very good one! Also, with that costs, buying them for making a new small/regional airline, won't be bad.



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User currently offlineRobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 9261 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 5):
Exactly, because nobody else wants MD-90s, Delta can pick them up for around $ 4 million a piece. They have a fleet of them already and the economics aren't that bad, especially including the low purchase/write off costs. Their accountants figured out it was cheaper and more efficient to take more MD-90s, also to get economies of scale combined with their original fleet of around 17, then buying more 738s or A-320s.

The strategy works as long as fuel doesn't get too expensive.


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8536 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 9209 times:
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Quoting jayeshrulz (Reply 1):
First the 747, and now the A300  
I wonder what will be the next...

- Last of the MD-80's if not already gone then MD-90's too.



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 9044 times:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):
Last of the MD-80's if not already gone

JL was even still operating a few MD-81s indeed lately, so not all gone, yet...



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User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2191 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 8728 times:



Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 7):
The strategy works as long as fuel doesn't get too expensive.

MD90s have very efficient V2500 engines (same as half of the A320s out there). Why did you make that statement?

[Edited 2011-01-05 13:53:41]

User currently offlineJHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8409 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 10):


Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 7):
The strategy works as long as fuel doesn't get too expensive.

MD90s have very efficient V2500 engines (same as half of the A320s out there). Why did you make that statement?

I was wondering the same thing myself. How to the weights of an A320 compare to the MD-90's?   



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6895 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8203 times:

Quoting ColAvionLover (Thread starter):
JAL To Operate Last A300-600R Service On 26MAR11

Really sad. I've greatly enjoyed seven A300 flights on JAL between HIJ and HND and always tried to get them in place of other types. Now the route is only operated by 737s and MD-90s - and the MDs won't last much longer.  

But what a change. Four years ago I was flying on JAL 777-200s in and out of Hiroshima. Nowadays they fly much smaller planes and fly just six round trips a day. ANA, by contrast, fly nine round trips a day on 777-200s (6) and 767-300s (3).

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 9):
JL was even still operating a few MD-81s indeed lately, so not all gone, yet...

Not that "lately". I'm afraid they are all gone.   I enjoyed them too.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 3):
MD-90s will be sold to Delta, probably also all out of service by late 2011

Until then, they're being used quite heavily. I've enjoyed eight good flights on them and I hope to get a few more in 2011.

But then it'll be a choice of ANA with 737, 767 or 777 or JAL with ... 737, 767 or 777.  

(...and, maybe, 787s...???)


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8096 times:

Any word on the fate of those A300s?

JL is simplifying their fleet to 737s, 767s, 777s, and 787s (+ E-jets for regional service)



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User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3183 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8071 times:

From twitter.

KMJ-HNDと予想 RT @ikarosairline: A3Rラストフライト3月26日?RT @airlineroute: JAL to operate last Airbus A300-600R service.

Now I wonder is it worthwhile to plan a trip to Japan for the last A300 and a ride on a MD-90.

At least JAL are part of oneworld.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6895 posts, RR: 63
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7872 times:

Quoting BNE (Reply 14):
KMJ-HND

Hmmm. The JAL website isn't showing an A300 operating on that route that day. Just 767 (3), 737 (2) and MD-90 (2).  


User currently offlinegocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4341 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7872 times:

Quoting BNE (Reply 14):
Now I wonder is it worthwhile to plan a trip to Japan for the last A300 and a ride on a MD-90.

Absolutely, a reason to come to Tokyo since there's an A.net meet that weekend, too!


User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7791 times:

Quoting gocaps16 (Reply 16):
Absolutely, a reason to come to Tokyo since there's an A.net meet that weekend, too!

Now that you mentioned the A.net meet, maybe those who'll be arriving Tokyo early might consider doing a group day-trip on the type.

'949


User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3183 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7674 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 15):
Hmmm. The JAL website isn't showing an A300 operating on that route that day. Just 767 (3), 737 (2) and MD-90 (2).

Maybe I was getting confused with all the JL writing, so don't quote me.

Quoting gocaps16 (Reply 16):
Absolutely, a reason to come to Tokyo since there's an A.net meet that weekend, too!

Who goes to a.net meets anyway, but I will keep it in mind, especially if I win the lottery.



Why fly non stop when you can connect
User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7001 times:

Quoting Bluewave 707 (Reply 13):
Any word on the fate of those A300s?

I don't know how many cycles they have, but if useable still I'd expect UPS to take them - at very least for spares.


User currently offlineJerseyFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 640 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6328 times:

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 19):

I don't know how many cycles they have, but if useable still I'd expect UPS to take them - at very least for spares.

I think about 3 are the newest passenger A300s flying - a top up order from JAS when all other A300s being sold were freighters


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6027 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 12):
Not that "lately". I'm afraid they are all gone.

Just a few months ago, the MD81 was still operating on some flights. I've seen flightplans with this type at least until Sep ' 10.



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User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 755 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6021 times:
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Thankfully TG still keeps a bunch load around  

Still sad to the JAL ones go..



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5960 times:

Quoting BNE (Reply 14):
Now I wonder is it worthwhile to plan a trip to Japan for the last A300

If it needn't be JL's A300's to fly on ...: KE operates the A306 extensively on its domestic route between GMP and CJU as well as the odd flight between PUS and GMP resp PUS and CJU.
And their flights sell at a much lower fare than domestic routes in Japan I have to say.
A oneway trip on KE can be bought as low as 85000 KRW, roughly 60 EUR for me or 76 AUD for you - but only on KE's website for Korea, which at present has a technical problem to process payments with non-Korean Mastercards. Other brokers charge much higher fares.

BTW, KE also operate A330's on few domestic flights to CJU from GMP or PUS.

And, talking of domestic fares in Korea, EastarJet (ZE) charges around 30 EUR for flights between GMP and CJU oneway.

Quoting N949WP (Reply 17):
Now that you mentioned the A.net meet, maybe those who'll be arriving Tokyo early might consider doing a group day-trip on the type.

What route would that be ? Too many on offer from HND to check out one by one ...
-HT



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User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5723 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 23):
What route would that be ? Too many on offer from HND to check out one by one ...
-HT

Browsing through the downloadable version of JAL's domestic timetable (effective up to March 26) from their website and matching it against their online reservation system, it appears the only A300 flights to be maintained up to the 26th is the morning roundtrip (JL1103 / JL1100) from HND to/from AKJ, and the evening roundtrip (JL1875 / JL1878) from HND to/from KOJ (Kagoshima).

'949


25 PM : I wonder what it'll do between 11.50 and 17.05. Seems that there would be time for another round trip between these two.
26 N949WP : Mystery solved!! From a small footnote in the timetable, it says flight JL1407/1408 (HND-Takamatsu v.v.) will be operated by the A300 between March 1
27 PM : Thanks. Wouldn't it be fun to book on all six flights and accompany the plane on its last day? Perhaps I will...
28 BNE : Now where do you book such an itinerary, a website that likes an Australian credit card, and 6 flights is just a bit much, you would want a clear day
29 N949WP : Well, from JAL's online reservations, looks like the last segment of the day on the 26th (JL1878 KOJ-HND) was sold out!! Maybe other local enthusiast
30 Post contains images PM : My wife would never have let me do it anyway...
31 AirNovaBAe146 : Out of curiosity, what is going to happen to the JAL A300s? You'd think they'd be prime for some African or other third world operator; affordable air
32 Post contains images eprn1n2 : Yes the fat lady has sung. The last of the JAL MD-81s came over as N821AG on November 11. It has since found a home in Venezuela with Laser Airlines
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