ColAvionLover From Panama, joined Dec 2008, 104 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8624 times:
Just saw this on my twitter.
A300 will be a very missed plane. I was able to see it once with American Airlines landing at Panama's Tocumen Int'l.
It's a very noisy plane, btw. Something many will miss too.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14315 posts, RR: 26 Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8525 times:
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8242 times:
Quoting ColAvionLover (Reply 4): So what's the idea of buying them? Are those jets in bargain?
If somebody knows, how much are them going to cost to DL?
Exactly, because nobody else wants MD-90s, Delta can pick them up for around $ 4 million a piece. They have a fleet of them already and the economics aren't that bad, especially including the low purchase/write off costs. Their accountants figured out it was cheaper and more efficient to take more MD-90s, also to get economies of scale combined with their original fleet of around 17, then buying more 738s or A-320s.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
ColAvionLover From Panama, joined Dec 2008, 104 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8101 times:
Nice!
If I had the money, I certainly buy a pair or more of those. One for my own use, and the other ones for making a hotel (?). Like the Jumbo Hostel!
But coming back to the strategy, a very good one! Also, with that costs, buying them for making a new small/regional airline, won't be bad.
Robffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1094 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8020 times:
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 5): Exactly, because nobody else wants MD-90s, Delta can pick them up for around $ 4 million a piece. They have a fleet of them already and the economics aren't that bad, especially including the low purchase/write off costs. Their accountants figured out it was cheaper and more efficient to take more MD-90s, also to get economies of scale combined with their original fleet of around 17, then buying more 738s or A-320s.
The strategy works as long as fuel doesn't get too expensive.
akelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2101 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7487 times:
Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 7): The strategy works as long as fuel doesn't get too expensive.
MD90s have very efficient V2500 engines (same as half of the A320s out there). Why did you make that statement?
JHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7168 times:
Really sad. I've greatly enjoyed seven A300 flights on JAL between HIJ and HND and always tried to get them in place of other types. Now the route is only operated by 737s and MD-90s - and the MDs won't last much longer.
But what a change. Four years ago I was flying on JAL 777-200s in and out of Hiroshima. Nowadays they fly much smaller planes and fly just six round trips a day. ANA, by contrast, fly nine round trips a day on 777-200s (6) and 767-300s (3).
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 9): JL was even still operating a few MD-81s indeed lately, so not all gone, yet...
Not that "lately". I'm afraid they are all gone. I enjoyed them too.
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 3): MD-90s will be sold to Delta, probably also all out of service by late 2011
Until then, they're being used quite heavily. I've enjoyed eight good flights on them and I hope to get a few more in 2011.
But then it'll be a choice of ANA with 737, 767 or 777 or JAL with ... 737, 767 or 777.
Bluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3139 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6855 times:
Any word on the fate of those A300s?
JL is simplifying their fleet to 737s, 767s, 777s, and 787s (+ E-jets for regional service)
"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
HT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6471 posts, RR: 27 Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4719 times:
Quoting BNE (Reply 14): Now I wonder is it worthwhile to plan a trip to Japan for the last A300
If it needn't be JL's A300's to fly on ...: KE operates the A306 extensively on its domestic route between GMP and CJU as well as the odd flight between PUS and GMP resp PUS and CJU.
And their flights sell at a much lower fare than domestic routes in Japan I have to say.
A oneway trip on KE can be bought as low as 85000 KRW, roughly 60 EUR for me or 76 AUD for you - but only on KE's website for Korea, which at present has a technical problem to process payments with non-Korean Mastercards. Other brokers charge much higher fares.
BTW, KE also operate A330's on few domestic flights to CJU from GMP or PUS.
And, talking of domestic fares in Korea, EastarJet (ZE) charges around 30 EUR for flights between GMP and CJU oneway.
Quoting N949WP (Reply 17): Now that you mentioned the A.net meet, maybe those who'll be arriving Tokyo early might consider doing a group day-trip on the type.
What route would that be ? Too many on offer from HND to check out one by one ...
-HT
Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
N949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4482 times:
Quoting HT (Reply 23): What route would that be ? Too many on offer from HND to check out one by one ...
-HT
Browsing through the downloadable version of JAL's domestic timetable (effective up to March 26) from their website and matching it against their online reservation system, it appears the only A300 flights to be maintained up to the 26th is the morning roundtrip (JL1103 / JL1100) from HND to/from AKJ, and the evening roundtrip (JL1875 / JL1878) from HND to/from KOJ (Kagoshima).
'949
25 PM: I wonder what it'll do between 11.50 and 17.05. Seems that there would be time for another round trip between these two.
26 N949WP: Mystery solved!! From a small footnote in the timetable, it says flight JL1407/1408 (HND-Takamatsu v.v.) will be operated by the A300 between March 1
27 PM: Thanks. Wouldn't it be fun to book on all six flights and accompany the plane on its last day? Perhaps I will...
28 BNE: Now where do you book such an itinerary, a website that likes an Australian credit card, and 6 flights is just a bit much, you would want a clear day
29 N949WP: Well, from JAL's online reservations, looks like the last segment of the day on the 26th (JL1878 KOJ-HND) was sold out!! Maybe other local enthusiast
30 PM: My wife would never have let me do it anyway...
31 AirNovaBAe146: Out of curiosity, what is going to happen to the JAL A300s? You'd think they'd be prime for some African or other third world operator; affordable air
32 eprn1n2: Yes the fat lady has sung. The last of the JAL MD-81s came over as N821AG on November 11. It has since found a home in Venezuela with Laser Airlines
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