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Delta Pampers Athletes With Special Flights  
User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3075 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10629 times:

Fair use from: http://www.ajc.com/business/delta-pampers-football-teams-795984.html

The Auburn Tigers and Oregon Ducks football teams flew to Arizona for next week's BCS National Championship game on Delta Air Lines charters that offer luxuries such as extra room and generate higher profits.

Instead of pretzels and peanuts, the college players noshed on Chick-fil-A sandwiches and Dove ice cream bars. Tucked into a drawer on the jets was a three-ring binder with details on each team's no-alcohol policy, meal preferences and the brand of soda the head coach favors and whether he wants ice.

Those touches are part of Delta's effort to expand the biggest charter operation among U.S. airlines, with $255 million in 2010 revenue. Sports teams made up almost half that total, and most of the rest came from military flying that is now shrinking as U.S. troops leave Iraq and Afghanistan.

Also, great pics here: http://projects.ajc.com/gallery/view...rts/delta-football-charters/2.html

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User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10586 times:

Delta is one of the largest charter airlines in the country. Each customer specifies what they wish to have on a charter flight. The customer is paying for the extra catering as part of the charter fees.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23223 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10406 times:

Quoting catiii (Thread starter):
Instead of pretzels and peanuts, the college players noshed on Chick-fil-A sandwiches and Dove ice cream bars. Tucked into a drawer on the jets was a three-ring binder with details on each team's no-alcohol policy, meal preferences and the brand of soda the head coach favors and whether he wants ice.

I hate to rain on the parade, but how is this different from what NW did with the exact same Airbii?



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlinedeltairlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8912 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10371 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):

I hate to rain on the parade, but how is this different from what NW did with the exact same Airbii?

It's the exact same thing really, at least for the NBA teams (they had done this with the 727 before using the A319 as well).

The difference now is just the sheer scope of the operation; Delta historically has had a lot of the baseball/football business; add in the Northwest operation which historically has had the NBA contract plus a lot of the military troop movement charters and you get an incredibly strong charter division that has been buoyed by growth in new markets now, such as an increased use of NHL teams, as well as more MLB teams using the NW A319s in the VIP configuration during the summer months.


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7252 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10353 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
I hate to rain on the parade, but how is this different from what NW did with the exact same Airbii?

It is not different. This is an A319 exact aircraft NW used, this is not a DL invention. And this is nothing new either.
Also football teams do not use the A319 as it is not large enough. Auburn flew in on a DL 744. The A319 would be used by NBA, NHL and maybe MLB teams. But no way can a college or NFL football team use anything smaller then a 738 or 757 in normal passenger config.



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineLAXtoATL From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1616 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10346 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
but how is this different from what NW did with the exact same Airbii?

I don't know what NW did, but DL is using both Boeing and Airbus aircraft to run these charters. In fact they are using just about everything in their fleet except the 777.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23223 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10330 times:

Quoting LAXtoATL (Reply 5):
don't know what NW did, but DL is using both Boeing and Airbus aircraft to run these charters

Correct, but AFAIK it's just the 319s that are VIP-configured, right?



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineLAXtoATL From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1616 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10261 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 6):
Correct, but AFAIK it's just the 319s that are VIP-configured, right?

To my knowledge that is true. However, they do employ some BE configured aircraft on charter missions.
The "VIP" configured 319s are specifically designed to accommodate NBA teams (and was a holdover from NW), I am not aware of any other uniquely configured aircraft for charter service, I believe they just their standard passenger configured aircarft during downtime from regular scheduled commercial service.


User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10086 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
I hate to rain on the parade, but how is this different from what NW did with the exact same Airbii?

Nothing really, the head of charters was the NW head of charters before the merger.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20243 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10088 times:

Also, on top of profits, it's also very good marketing. When a team shows up, the news is there and, while it often goes unmentioned, the aircraft on which they arrive has DELTA written across it. Some very good brand exposure.

Someone at DL knows a thing or two about branding, which is more than I can say about a few other airlines *koff koff UA koff koff*


User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3040 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9970 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 9):
Also, on top of profits, it's also very good marketing.

No kidding. Here in AZ that Delta 744 that flew the Auburn team in was splashed all over the news and actually discussed in many of the news stories.



Ghosts appear and fade away.....................
User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3075 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9921 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
I hate to rain on the parade, but how is this different from what NW did with the exact same Airbii?

Chick-fil-a  


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 9724 times:

Nice shot of the chartered 744 from Auburn's Flickr account

And Cam "It's ALL about me" Newton



User currently offlineflashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 9647 times:
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Looks like the three Ducks charters mentioned in the article refer to one 763 EUG-PHX this past Sunday and one 752 doing EUG-PHX each day Friday and Saturday.

User currently onlineUTAH744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 9599 times:

When bidding a charter an airline has to figure in the cost of positioning an aircraft to the charter and then the cost of re-introducing the plane back into normal rotation. Delta with a huge fleet of aircraft throughout the USA has advantages that only UA/CO come close to. A large charter operation for Delta makes perfect sence.


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User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 9428 times:

EUG will also see A330's to take the U of O band to the game.

It should also be noted that it's not just M/L aircraft used. CRJ's are also used to transport college teams that have smaller rosters (such as basketball)...

For those with access to DLNet, you can see all of the charter activity (and A/C types) for any given month...



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6101 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 9391 times:

Suffice to say, if Chik-Fil-A is considering 'pampering' on a charter, then a real first class meal on a scheduled flight must be exceptionally elegant.

Seriously, they had a plane catered to their specs, and the best thing they could come up with was Chik-Fil-A?   



Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun.
User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9234 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 16):
Seriously, they had a plane catered to their specs, and the best thing they could come up with was Chik-Fil-A?

They are from Alabama. I think that Applebee's is considered fine dining there.



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User currently offlinebhmdiversion From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9074 times:

I disagree BMI727.

Applebee's isn't fine dining... unlike your Bob Evans that you have up there in the frozen tundra of the North...


User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3075 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9025 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 16):
Seriously, they had a plane catered to their specs, and the best thing they could come up with was Chik-Fil-A?

What do you expect college atheletes to want? Chateaubriand?


User currently offlinexdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 682 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9001 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 8):

Correct ... A lot of the NW management is running DL now.... Goodspeed DL!


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7252 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8223 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 16):
Seriously, they had a plane catered to their specs, and the best thing they could come up with was Chik-Fil-A?

Chik-Fil-A probably fed them for free. That is the most likely reason.



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3075 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7989 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 21):
Chik-Fil-A probably fed them for free. That is the most likely reason.

They're also an NCAA Football sponsor. And, they're pretty damn tasty.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7711 posts, RR: 27
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7686 times:

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 15):
It should also be noted that it's not just M/L aircraft used. CRJ's are also used to transport college teams that have smaller rosters (such as basketball)...

Yep. When I was at Penn State we used to have teams like Women's Volleyball or Basketball charter a Saab on occasion.

A lot of college basketball teams use CRJs during the regular season. May take something bigger if they are going to the NCAA tourney.


User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7626 times:

About 15 years ago, a friend of mine flew a Dallas Cowboys charter from ORD to DFW. Since the flight left around midnight (MNF game), the catering was less than if the flight was in the air during dinner time.

Still, the sack meal with much larger than the old Bistro Bag.


25 Post contains links DashTrash : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8900 I love how they overflew Auburn on the way out. War Damn Eagle!
26 NASCARAirforce : I thought that was the Waffle House
27 DashTrash : Well, actually they did. It's about 30 SW of VUZ.
28 rfields5421 : Most line aircraft with Business or First Class sections do not have enough long legroom seats for an NBA team. 14 people over 6 feet and probably ha
29 goldenstate : Different teams have different catering needs and requests. Many NFL and MLB charters get entrees such as ribs, filet mignon, salmon, etc., with appr
30 burnsie28 : They are not BE seats. The interior of those aircrafts are actually owned by the NBA. NW now DL was just in charge of everything else but the seats a
31 lucky777 : How so....?
32 nwaesc : When you log in, select "charters" from the Departments drop down menu (same as you would for ACS, IFS, etc). Once you're on that page, the links are
33 tyler81190 : Technically, Delta still has the old NW 747-200's that were used for military charters... and there still is a plan on the books to use them if absol
34 ytib : Frontier does plenty of college football charters during the season for a few colleges in the Mountain West, using the A319. Yes this is configured d
35 bhmdiversion : We worked a charter for the Memphis Grizzlies and it was stocked of Rondezvous BBQ and Ribs once... The players didnt want any of it since it was a 30
36 NYCFlyer : Does the Auburn football team fly from the university-owned airport, AUO? Can AUO handle a 747? Otherwise they'd have to drive 35 miles to CSG, 50 to,
37 rfields5421 : Probably not. It's longest runway is 5,264 ft x 100 ft with a weight rating of 75,000 lbs for double wheel gear. MGM has a 9,000 ft rwy x 150 rated f
38 timf : The seats used on the VIP A319s appear to be the same as the BE seats in the 75A/75E, only with different seat covers. They also have some different s
39 AirNovaBAe146 : I think the article at the top of this thread did a bit of a disservice. It implied the Auburn and Oregon charters were pampered the same way an NBA c
40 Kaiarahi : What is it? Can you eat it?
41 Post contains images Goldenshield : It's a company, and only other companies can eat a company. What we're referring to here is their chicken sandwiches, such as the classic here:
42 CharlieNoble : LOL, you can try... I had a bad Chik-fil-a experience, some sort of pressed scraps type product that didn't look at all like what you see in that pic
43 thediplomat : Except on Sunday
44 BMI727 : Probably varies greatly with the team, but I would guess that college charters are a bit more orderly in general. The Memphis Grizzlies recently bann
45 Kaiarahi : OK. I thought it might be something you buy at Lowes to fill holes in chicks ....
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