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Norwegian To Conclude Deal With Finnair Q1  
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3940 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 5360 times:

Norwegian Air Expects to Conclude Finnair Deal in First Quarter


" Norwegian Air Shuttle ASA, Europe’s fourth-largest discount carrier, expects to reach a cooperation agreement on feeder traffic with Finnair Oyj in the first quarter "


Read about it here:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...finnair-deal-in-first-quarter.html



What exactly is Finnair getting out of this ? Is Norwegians network that interesting to them ?

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User currently offlineHELyes From Finland, joined Oct 2010, 939 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5127 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
What exactly is Finnair getting out of this ? Is Norwegians network that interesting to them ?

This deal truly is interesting, will they be partners and rivals at the same time? And AY even owns a small slice of DY. After opening a base in HEL this spring Norwegian will serve 13 routes from HEL, two of them domestic. If AY and DY truly get closer, Blue1 (SASFinland) will be the looser here.

AY has been looking for (feeder) partners, they have been leasing out their smaller Embraers and focusing more on long haul traffic.


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3940 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4977 times:

Quoting HELyes (Reply 1):
focusing more on long haul traffic.

Does'nt this clash with Norwegians longhaul plans to Asia ?


User currently offlineHELyes From Finland, joined Oct 2010, 939 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 2):
Does'nt this clash with Norwegians longhaul plans to Asia ?

Probably depends how fast DY will grow in Asia, they would be rivals first in BKK if not co-operating somehow. I'm really curious to see how their relationship develops, I'm sure SK is interested too...


User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4740 times:
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Quoting Mortyman (Reply 2):

Does'nt this clash with Norwegians longhaul plans to Asia ?

And that too depends where they start the Asian op's. HEL is well suited for Asian ops as we know how well AY does on Asian routes.



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User currently offlineokay From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4573 times:

I mentioned about this in a thread I started a few days ago:

Finnish Aviation Thread 2011 Vol.1 (by okay Jan 4 2011 in Civil Aviation)

Finnair is also in talks with AB concerning feeder traffic to AY's Asia ops.

Source: http://www.taloussanomat.fi/liikenne...anssa-tulee-yhteistyota/2011131/12

I just hope AY would go for the AY/AB deal. Sounds more appealing than Norwegian.


okAY


User currently offlineHELyes From Finland, joined Oct 2010, 939 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4094 times:

Quoting okay (Reply 5):
Finnair is also in talks with AB concerning feeder traffic to AY's Asia ops.
Quoting okay (Reply 5):
I just hope AY would go for the AY/AB deal. Sounds more appealing than Norwegian.

Actually it seems AY will get deals with both AB and DY.
AB already feeds AY from TXL/DUS and their loyalty programs co-operate, though AB officially joining OW next year.


User currently offlinespeedygonzales From Norway, joined Sep 2007, 732 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4009 times:

Personally, I would find TRD-HEL more useful than OSL-Asia.


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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3456 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Quoting speedygonzales (Reply 7):
Personally, I would find TRD-HEL more useful than OSL-Asia.

WF found out that Scandinavians prefer vertical intra-Nordic routes than horizontal ones. I think they tried TRD-ARN and it was a bust.



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User currently offlinenasco2 From Norway, joined Jul 2010, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

I think it is very good news.
I am very happy that Norwegian and Finnair can cooperate closer.
As you know, we all need some body to hate, and as long as SAS is both Finnair and Norwegian biggest enemy, they can always find some way of enjoy each other strength.
But in the future, if both Norwegian and Finnair get stronger and more independent, it may be some problems.


User currently offlinegarynor From Norway, joined Oct 2010, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Exciting news, I too am curious as to how this will unfold with Norwegian growing their own IC network... Perhaps they'll follow in good Scandinavian tradition and work with multiple hubs...    

User currently offlineHELyes From Finland, joined Oct 2010, 939 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2930 times:

Quoting garynor (Reply 10):
Perhaps they'll follow in good Scandinavian tradition and work with multiple hubs...

Two IC hubs still manageable? OSL handles N America, HEL covers Asia...  
Anyway, good luck to the partnership, it could be we'll see something interesting cooking here...


User currently offlineskidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

I don't care what DY decide to do, as long as they continue to expand and need my services!  

It will be interesting to see what happens when they do start intercontinental ops. Their whole organisation will have to be upgraded to cope. The engineering especially will need a makeover for sure!

Andy   



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