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Heathrow Runway 23  
User currently offlineAirways45 From United Kingdom, joined May 2000, 300 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1577 times:

Does anyone know when LHR runway 23 was last used, and what is the largest airliner they have seen landing on it? Has anyone landed on it, or taken off from it?

NB: LRH Runway 23 is the cross runway that cuts into Runway 27L and is 6450ft long.

Cheers!


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User currently offlineMrjworth From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

This runway is frequently used, but usually only for landings due to the fact that it is only 6,500 feet long - not long enough for a 747 though.

You could only barely use this runway for takeoff on very windy days and only then if the wind was straight down the runway. Also, you gain very little as if one aircraft if using 5/23, you can't use either other runway at the same time - as it crosses both.


User currently offlineAmbasaid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

RWY 23 is long enough for landing a 747.



User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1496 times:

Has it not been closed for years ????

I remember when I was a kid standing on a small mound at the end of the runway , with jets landing over my head. I think I remember Concorde landing.


User currently offlineJon01 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1486 times:

When there is a strong southerly wind Rwy 23 can still be used for landing and Runway 27R is used for take-offs. It has a dme but no ILS. The runway does not interfere with 27R, so 23 and 27R can happily be used together.

Regards,
Jon


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

I remember reading that 747s frequently used 23, and the Concorde has used it, but there was a problem with the other runways (if I remember correctly)

Jeff


User currently offlineAirways45 From United Kingdom, joined May 2000, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1448 times:

I have heard that if you approach 23, you fly directly over RAF Northolt, and if the airport wants to use 23, they need to warn BA so that 747s can be moved from remote stands near T4!

Also, when the Virgin Atlantic A340 from LAX had a problem with the landing gear a couple of years ago, 23 was the ideal runway to land on given the wind (and ATC gave the pilot the choice) but they opted for the longer 27L - which the aircraft then closed for a few hours!!


User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

I was once (~1987) on a BA 747-200 taking off on LHR's runway 27L.
We had just rev'd up and barely started forward roll when the engines went back to idle and we stopped sharply.
After about 5-10 seconds, looking out the right side I noticed a BAe ATP overshoot runway 23! (i.e. crossing our runway).
After about another 20 seconds we started and completed our take-off.
Clearly, landings on 23 have been unorthodox for a while.



` Yeaah! Baade 152! Trabi of the Sky! '
User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1444 times:

Only a few months ago we landed on 23 direct from Hong Kong on BA028 (A B747-436)  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Due to it's length the aircraft does apply more than the usual amount of reverse and breaking. It's cool though becuase you get to see alot of the aircarft at the stands on finals.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Regards
Dan



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User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1436 times:

LHR Rwy23 was the scene for the crash landing of a BA B707 that lost - actually lost - an engine that fell off shortly after take off from LHR. I think the runway cannot be used anylonger because of the proximity of T4. Can anybody confirm?

User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1433 times:

Well then obviously the BA crew on my flight had no idea what they were doing when they landed on 23!!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy LOL!!!
I mean realy mate, do you think that i captain with probrbley around 20 or so years of expericance behind him working for one of the top airlines in the world would land on a inactive runway in perfect weather???, And after the Tower had obviously given him permision??????
Let me know your thoughts on that one!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Dan



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User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 1425 times:

I think the point is
that R23 is unorthodox and when unorthodox procedures come into play unusual events can occur.
e.g.:
Ref: the use of the wide parallel taxi-way at Gatwick as the `auxilliary' runway when the main/normal runnway is being resurfaced etc....there have been `incidents'.



` Yeaah! Baade 152! Trabi of the Sky! '
User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 1429 times:

Er 05/23 isn't inactive but rather, seldom used.

User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 1429 times:

Exactley!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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