Jackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 665 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4044 times:
When TAA (Australian) and Qantas merged to start QFs domestic operation, how were the TN crew integrated into the "new" airline? Were they retrained, or were there procedures kept since the 737 and A300 were new to Qantas. Did any TN crew move into long haul?
I understand some older TAA crew are known as the "mothers club" and are disliked by younger crew.
qfatwa From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3589 times:
There were and still are 2 separate divisons - known as Long Haul [old QANTAS and primarily International, using 747 and 767 aircraft] and Short Haul [old Australian which was TAA rebranded in the 1980's and primarily domestic, with at the time 737 and A300 aircraft].
The two divisions ran autonomously until new awards were created which allowed for short haul to use 767 aircraft and for their 737 aircraft to go to New Zealand, and long haul 747 and 767 to fly domestically in a controlled capacity agreement.
Overall, seniority was merged into a global cabin crew group, and transfers were created. Crew had to transfer into the other division as a flight attendant [the two types of flying are very different - like sprints or long distance running/swimming!!]. Their former positions of Purser [domestic] or Senior/Chief Steward or Flight Service Director [international] were not transferable so had to wait for upgrade position opportunities.
Many crew have swapped divisions - domestic crew going to the wild blue yonder and fun places, while some international crew wanted to localise their flying and be stay at homes.
Long Haul had a "mothers club" : day trips to New Zealand, to be home in time for dinner!!
In the pre-bid, earlier 1980's, QANTAS had a "short division" with a limit on trips of 5 days away, remembering that only the 747-200 existed so 10 hour sectors were the limit!!!! . At that time, trips were up to 21 days away and 75% time off [15 days free of duty] after the trip.
It was a reasonably amicable amalgamation, a little wariness, but overall two great work groups became one business.
AnsettB727 From Australia, joined Mar 2004, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3479 times:
Very comprehensive qfatwa. Thanks. I flew Tiger to HBA yesterday and was remembering the many flights I did out of there on Ansett A320s. Whilst flying in this country is so much cheaper now, it isn't necessarily all that pretty.
smi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3261 times:
I never knew long-haul had a mothers club at QFLink we just refered to those short-haulers who would drip the kids at school come to work do a Sydney, Canberra or Adelaide return then go pickthe kids back up from school. Interesting to see longhaul had one too! I always liked the nick names that Australians seems to give one another (most in jest). I was rather fond of the ¥en-men and ¥en-hens the more senior crew who would do mainly japan trips, especially pre-east Asian financial crisis.
Zkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4798 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2977 times:
Quoting smi0006 (Reply 4): I never knew long-haul had a mothers club at QFLink we just refered to those short-haulers who would drip the kids at school come to work do a Sydney, Canberra or Adelaide return then go pickthe kids back up from school. Interesting to see longhaul had one too! I always liked the nick names that Australians seems to give one another (most in jest). I was rather fond of the ¥en-men and ¥en-hens the more senior crew who would do mainly japan trips, especially pre-east Asian financial crisis.
Not forgetting the Ruby-Tuesdays.... (like the USA restaurant chain)
Seniority got them a Ruby badge and good bidding options
Leave SYD tues... fly to USA (HNL, LAX, SFO), home on Friday morning giving Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon off.