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Air Southwest Closes PLH/NQY-LGW  
User currently offlinetrb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3268 times:

A sad day as ASW have announced from the end of this month the route from the Southwest to Gatwick will cease as they say it's not viable. Will Flybe perhaps start the route from Ext? http://www.airsouthwest.com/news/shownews.php?ne_id=296

The slots would certainly be worth a fair bit!

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User currently offlineseansasLCY From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2007, 858 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

Another shot at LCY perhaps?

I've used this route many times and it is often a lot busier than the Flybe flights and usually the ticket is more expensive. Its a real shame to see this route go as we need more connections to Cornwall not fewer.


User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 1):
Another shot at LCY perhaps?

No, that one didn't work out. The yields were too low as I remember.

Good or bad, I'm not sure.. if it makes way for newer flights/destinations then so be it.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11645 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2995 times:

Unfortunately it's been known that this was coming for a while now. Still a major blow to the Plymouth economy, and no doubt BE will soon inflate the fares on the NQY route to a more than profitable level. They've run their flights at a significant loss since they began, with this being the desired affect.


Dan  



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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2889 times:

Very sad indeed. If only certain people had the foresight years ago to relocate PLY airport so that jets could be accomodated. It would have bolstered tourism and business economy. Stupid in my view.

User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3238 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

In fairness since the Eastern takeover, there's been a fair old price hike at Air Southwest so they can't be too surprised if people chose to fly on a cheaper, faster option, on a bigger and more modern aircraft to Newquay. Loyalty and local roots aren't going to save you if you get beaten in the market.

User currently offlinetrb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

It's obvious Flybe will ramp their prices up now they have no competition. Their cheapest return without baggage is currently £65.98 What's the betting that's soon £80+?

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11645 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2708 times:

Quoting trb10 (Reply 6):

It's obvious Flybe will ramp their prices up now they have no competition. Their cheapest return without baggage is currently £65.98 What's the betting that's soon £80+?

That's already an increase on the fare I was quoted a few weeks ago. I wouldn't be surprised if the BE flights don't hang around as a year round service either; without the price war which made flights more affordable, a large percentage of the current travelling public would use alternative options. Now that there is no competition BE will either inflate pricing to a profitable level or use the aircraft for more lucrative routes - a one aircraft base at NQY is hardly ideal from a cost or utilisation perspective, and they have already tried and failed to offer other year round routes from the airport.


Dan  



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User currently offlineeljonno From Australia, joined Sep 2008, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

I have used Air Southwest on this route many times over the last few years, since I have been at university in Falmouth. They are a great little airline: always (jn my experience) punctual, with very friendly staff on the ground and in the air. I am going to book one last flight home to honour the exceptional service I have had from them over the years.

What are their plans for fleet utilisation now they have closed their biggest route then? Losing three flights a day is going to leave a big gap in their schedules I should imagine...

[Edited 2011-01-11 06:18:02]

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11645 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

Quoting eljonno (Reply 8):
What are their plans for fleet utilisation now they have closed their biggest route then? Losing three flights a day is going to leave a big gap in their schedules I should imagine...

More charter work and more of the Dashes operating for Eastern on their routes to Scotland.



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User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2343 times:

Couldnt they run the route into LUTON, Much cheaper.. close to London.. atleast keeps Plymouth connected.

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11645 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 10):
Couldnt they run the route into LUTON, Much cheaper.. close to London.. atleast keeps Plymouth connected.

A good 50% of the business and leisure passengers using the service care about onward connections, which Gatwick is useful for, whilst the opportunities at Luton are minimal. If the entry into GDS had been made prior to the demise of their LCY route then I believe we would be seeing it surviving in place of LGW, which I actually thought was the eventual idea of it being launched. Most of the through ticketing options involve onward flights with KLM, for which LCY would have been the perfect transfer point with it's multiple frequent flights, whilst BRS is less desirable with fewer options and road transfer between LGW and LHR makes it rather pointless.

Personally I think there are two other connections which the city should be aiming for instead of trying to cling onto a London link: DUB with Aer Lingus Regional on the ATR 72-500, and CDG with Airlinair for Air France on the ATR 42-500. Both can use the airport and both would bring the benefits of connecting 500,000+ people in the airport's direct catchment area with international destinations worldwide. If London is to be retained, then I think it would be best served by either BA Cityflyer or CityJet in order to maximise onward connections, although the former would I think require a runway extension.


Dan  



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