Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9183 times:
A new year and thus a new Russian Aviation thread!
Some news to kick-start the new thread.
The DME-JFK route by UN is apparently not doing too well as it has been reduced to 2 weekly from 01 FEB. The winter season for RUS-USA traffic is always hard and once again confirmed.
And one of the more surprising new routes, UTair will launch daily VKO-HAJ on CR2 in direct competition with Germanwings.
UT721 VKO1110 – 1210HAJ CRJ D
UT722 HAJ1305 – 1805VKO CRJ D http://airlineroute.net/2011/01/10/ut-vkohaj-s11/
FedExFlyerPHL From United States of America, joined May 2008, 159 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9065 times:
Thanks for this thread! I am not Russian (although I am trying to learn the language), but I have a very good friend who is, so I have become interested in Russian aviation of late. I enjoyed the last thread and I'm sure this one will be just as interesting. Now I just have to start saving so I can go visit her sometime soon!
Jeff
(Hoping there will be a SU LAX-SVO in my future!)
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konrad From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 494 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9004 times:
Quoting Severnaya (Thread starter): And one of the more surprising new routes, UTair will launch daily VKO-HAJ on CR2 in direct competition with Germanwings.
UT721 VKO1110 – 1210HAJ CRJ D
UT722 HAJ1305 – 1805VKO CRJ D
That is a mighty long route for a CR2. Imagine three hours inside the flying skidoo.
AB will increase from 28APR TXL-LED to 13 weekly from the current 7 weekly.
The new flight:
AB8486 TXL 2130 - 0140 LED x6
AB8487 LED 0705 - 0720 TXL x7 http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/11379/
Does anyone happen to know which tour operator/travel agents are selling flights on this route? I've just checked the SU website and fares are over €500 o/w, so I'm assuming it's being run essentially as a charter flight.
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4901 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8822 times:
Quoting Severnaya (Reply 3): S7 will be launching one weekly OVB-TXL from 24APR. This is the second connection besides TXL-DME (by AB) to connect the two oneworld carriers.
S7842 TXL0825 – 1925OVB 320 7
As much as it does link S7 and AB, I'm guessing the above will be almost all O&D. Do AB even have any flights arriving early enough on Sunday morning into TXL to connect into this?
pylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1391 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8806 times:
I believe that S7 flght from Novosibirsk is aimed at Russian Germans emigrated.
There was a considerable community in the region of South of West Siberia.
AA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3348 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8777 times:
Quoting Severnaya (Reply 3): S7 will be launching one weekly OVB-TXL from 24APR. This is the second connection besides TXL-DME (by AB) to connect the two oneworld carriers.
beryllium From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8734 times:
Last year the Russian government announced that SU would merge with several regional carriers (FV among them). Does anybody know what is the current status of that merger project?
Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8718 times:
Quoting pylon101 (Reply 8): I believe that S7 flght from Novosibirsk is aimed at Russian Germans emigrated.
There was a considerable community in the region of South of West Siberia.
Indeed, they aim at this I believe as well, and they aim on the Russian community around Berlin which is large as well.
Don't forget that the economies of the large Siberian cities are growing quite fast, tourism is booming as well. OVB is the third city of Russia (population wise) and S7 is able to get feed from China and eastern Russia for this flight.
The number of Germany - Siberia flights amazes me, even to cities such as HAJ and OMS.
Quoting beryllium (Reply 10): Last year the Russian government announced that SU would merge with several regional carriers (FV among them). Does anybody know what is the current status of that merger project?
That is in process, first signs are becoming visible with Rossiya (FV) flying some weekly SVO-SXF flights to optimize aircraft utilization and Nordavia (5N) will be sold to Norilsk Nickel so that FV will be the only SU subsidiary to focus on North & North-Western Russia.
Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8541 times:
Does someone have more information about the apparent stop since today of the regular schedule of Moscow Airlines? Some charters will be run the next days, however January 17 will be the last day of operations. http://www.travel.ru/news/2011/01/11/186566.html
pylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1391 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8416 times:
Looks like the 17th is the doom's day.
Everyone knew it was coming.
Actually it was literally written on airplanes: airline of the government of Moscow.
UTair definitely deserves expansion.
It's a well-run company - and supported by oil/gas region.
In a way UTair reminds me of North-West Airlines - it always tried to live within its means.
transaeroyyz From Canada, joined Dec 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8270 times:
YYZ-DME Does anyone know % loads, on the route, flying in april to OVB but the week before flight already soldout! Could we see an upgrade to the new 777 coming? fingers crossed. Read on earlier threads that the new 7-3 will also be used on domestic routes, OVB has to be one of them as only VVO, IKT are farther, maybe a stopover.
Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8223 times:
Why is it called Yuri Gagarin exactly?
Quoting transaeroyyz (Reply 14): OVB has to be one of them as only VVO, IKT are farther
UN flies domestically to many more destinations which are farther than OVB. They have many flights to the Russian Far East and Eastern Siberia (UUS, VVO, KHV etc) which warrant the 773 more than OVB which is only a 3:30 hour flight.
transaeroyyz From Canada, joined Dec 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8188 times:
Quoting Severnaya (Reply 17): (UUS, VVO, KHV etc) which warrant the 773 more than OVB which is only a 3:30 hour flight.
but OVB is a city with over 1.6 million people, the 3rd largest in russia, it deserves a widebody, OVB-DME flight time is 4 hours, 5 minutes witch is pretty much the limit of the 737, which is twice daily now.
pylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1391 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8151 times:
I counted 6 direct flight from DME to OVB performed yesterday:
Ural Airlines, S7, UN.
2-3 flights a day from VKO does UTair.
And Aeroflot flies 2 times a day.
With 10 flights a day it's a competative market.
And - yes - frequency does matter.
Another reason: with IL-86 out there is no mid-range w/b aircraft.
Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8102 times:
Quoting transaeroyyz (Reply 20): All A320, 21, 737 flights, putt a 777 there then who would u fly, its a no brainer to capture that segment..
No, this makes no sense for the Moscow-Novosibirsk market. It is one of the most competitive domestic Russian routes.
Placing a regular 773 will kill all yield for UN. Keep in mind that just being the 3rd city in Russia doesn't warrant a wide-body whatsoever. The wide-bodies can currently be placed on much more profitable routes than Novosibirsk.
UN currently flies 12 weekly 734/735s between DME-OVB. They would first upgrade the frequency, or swap to a larger aircraft 738, Tu214) and only perhaps then we'll see a 772/773 on the DME-OVB.
And then I didn't elaborate yet on the importance of frequency.
Quoting transaeroyyz (Reply 18): but OVB is a city with over 1.6 million people, the 3rd largest in russia, it deserves a widebody, OVB-DME flight time is 4 hours, 5 minutes witch is pretty much the limit of the 737, which is twice daily now.
OVB-DME isn't anywhere close to the limits of a 737.
OVB-DME is only 1739mi. The limits of the 737classics are around ~2,500mi, 737NG around ~>3,500mi.
Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7944 times:
Interesting news today from Sukhoi.
Quote: Mexico's second largest airline, Interjet, signed on Monday a $650 million deal with Superjet International to buy 15 regional Sukhoi Superjet 100 planes.
This is the first delivery contract for Russia's new type of Superjet airplanes to a Latin American country. Under the deal, Interjet may have the option to purchase five more planes.
The first deliveries of Superjet airplanes are expected in the second half of 2012.
pylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1391 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7931 times:
I guess 14 frames in 2011 was a number "to see and watch".
If SSJ is close to specs and good service is provided - they will increaase production.
They have capicities: Ulyanosk plant (where paint job was is supposed to be done) is bagging for more.
If we get some stable flow of orders - they will be able to assign both plants for full production line.
csturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1351 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7882 times:
I have never been to Russia, but have a keen fascination with Russian aviation and Russian airports, I am mostly interested in KHV as that is where my sister-in-law is from and I have heard many stories about flying there from my brother. I know that one cannot trust Wikipedia, so who operates into KHV? Or does that list look about right?
Posting from somewhere between KORD and KRFD
25 pylon101: Khabarovsk is a pretty big hun in the Russian Far East. I know that competition for this route is quite tense. Aeroflot has Airbus 330 on this route,
26 Severnaya: That list looks about right with perhaps a small mistake. SU also operates the IL-96 quite often into KHV, I think even this is even in the winter sc
27 Severnaya: Some odd rumours in todays RBK Daily. Branson might take part in Red Wings, the general director Teterin is forced to stay at Red Wings despite alread
28 csturdiv: Thanks for the info. I wish I was flying there, I have been invited, but right now the money is kind of tight and I cannot leave work. When my brothe
29 ju068: Maybe someone gave their own slots? In the recent interview with the CEO of Jat he stated that they will be canceling some routes that are not making
30 pylon101: Ah, JU068... Pan-Slavism was and is an illusion as it was proved within last 20 years. Mind economy, JAT. Though it would look great in JAT livery!
31 Severnaya: Yes, I'm almost sure they have taken over the ItaliAirlines slots as they've been removed/on hold from the order-book. Their 737s are getting really
32 Severnaya: Avianova will launch Tyumen & Surgut from SVO. Also TJM-SGC-TJM will be launched at the same time. Initial plans are for 3 times weekly. http://ww
33 kogge: A recent ILFC press release mentioned new leases of one A321 to Vyborg Airlines, one B.777-200 to Orenair, 4 B.787 to Aeroflot and one A319 to S7. Won
34 Severnaya: I read about the lease as well, but didn't know they're aligned with Coral Travels. If that is true they might have a future, I thought they weren't
35 PlymSpotter: Very strange indeed, Orenburg isn't that big a market. Maybe they could employ something that big on charters to Greece/Turkey/Egypt over the summer,
36 kogge: see press release on ILFC.com. This is most probably a used airplane. Orenair is THE russian charter airline. Probably 90% of all flights operated by
37 ju068: I guess pan-Slavism or not the Sukhoi jet would be extremly useful to Jat. First of all, they can get it much faster than the Embraers and second of
38 Severnaya: Big news today! The SSJ-100 has obtained its type certificate from MAK. Also Sukhoi was awarded the certificate of Civilian aircraft producer. Februar
39 ju068: Oh... no doubt bout that!! Like I previously mentioned, they never found the adequate replacement for their DC-9 fleet. The problem being that it was
40 LipeGIG: In the other hand it seems that the DME-GIG route is doing very well with first three weekly flights performing 85%+ loads. Hope it returns next IATA
41 ChicagoFlyer: Here's an interesting article on revenue performance of Russian airlines vs US ones: http://www.ato.ru/content/stoimost-a...khody-naseleniya-sotsialny
42 Severnaya: I heard the same good numbers, I think we might see this one back next winter schedule. Thanks for sharing that! Very interesting article. Avianova i
43 r2rho: Great news, just as was being expected these days. So service entry with Armavia should be just around the corner. This will help a lot for the progr
44 Severnaya: Oman Air will launch a route to Moscow DME. Interesting route! I'm unfamiliar with Oman Air, does it connect to Africa/Asia? WY171 MCT1050 – 1525DME
45 EDLP_TOM: SU changes summertimetable SVO-AYT: SU 209 X13 SVO AYT 0640 0905 0 28MAY11 25SEP11 IL9 SU 221 D SVO AYT 1215 1435 0 29APR11 09OCT11 333 SU 223 X13 SVO
46 Severnaya: Last year there were some IL9 as well. AB will launch STR-DME and STR-LED from May 1st. AB8438 STR0915 – 1425DME 320 7 AB8438 STR1030 – 1535DME 3
47 Severnaya: Yakutia finally received last week their 738 which was already for a very long time at QLA after a paint in EMA. Anyone know why this took so long and
48 kogge: I also thought that Transaero transports more charter pax than Orenair, but there is an article in Kommersant today. Translation by babelfish: Leader
49 dazeflight: Lovely. I just hope Aeroexpress will add some late-night-airport departures, that would make the inbound flight much more usable.
50 Severnaya: Yeah, they have some late-night departures, however not those ones departing around 1am or 2am which would suit much more. I wonder why there isn't a
51 dazeflight: I guess because they want to fit into the metro schedule. The last train departing SVO arrives at 0.35, enough time to reach much of the city from Be
52 Severnaya: AF adds one extra daily frequency on CDG-SVO, making it five daily in total for S11. AF1644 CDG0715 – 1255SVO 319 D AF1645 SVO1355 – 1550CDG 319 D
53 Tu204: When was the last time you saw a marshrutka at 1 in the morning? You cannot even get from a downtown bar or club to my house (Dinamo, not far from Be
54 Severnaya: They aren't driving at least with some low frequency to the airports? That surprises me, especially for MOS. In the summer marshrutkas in SPb are ope
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