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Why No Special Liveries On DL's Pmnw Aircraft?  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6153 times:

I was wondering, is there any particular reason why DL hasn't introduced any special liveries on any PMNW aircraft? All of DL's special liveries so far seem to be on PMDL aircraft.

I personally think DL should come up with a red Coca-Cola livery A332. The tail and belly would be painted red (similar to the pink on the Pink BCRF 767-400ER), and there would be a Coca-Cola logo below the titles on the front of the aircraft.

So, how come there have been no PMNW aircraft painted in special liveries?


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User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6048 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):

I personally think DL should come up with a red Coca-Cola livery A332.

Advertisement for a commercial enterprise painted on an aircraft of a legacy carrier? Not classy in my opinion. I am very supportive of liveries or stickers promoting non-profit organizations (American Cancer Society, BreastCancerAwareness in the case of DL) or cultural events (Salvador Dalí exhibition), though.

[Edited 2011-01-11 12:49:24]


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User currently onlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12118 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6032 times:
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If DL was to do a "coke" flying billboard I think it would have more to do with coke wanting to pay to promote the brand then DL tossing them a bone and just going ahead and doing it. Also in the past airlines that have done a pay to advertise on its planes have been low cost and really did not fly for long periods of time.


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User currently offlinegoldenstate From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 573 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6017 times:

It's all the Delta fleet now. I don't think there is a specific reason, as in "this is why we will not do any PMNW special liveries." The key focus on the PMNW fleet has been getting it repainted to Delta colors.

Why would Delta do a Coca-Cola special livery in particular. Do you think they should also do special liveries with other major suppliers or business partners such as Boeing, Airbus, American Express, Ford, GateGourmet, etc?

Instead of a flying billboard for some other brand, I'd rather see a 777 in the legacy DL Widget livery or something like that.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7645 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5940 times:

There are rumors of some type of retro-livery (potentially NW) coming out later this year. Speculation is that one of the the PMNW 757s coming out of the desert may sport some type of retro/heritage/legacy livery.

User currently offlineDelimit From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5936 times:

Oooohhhhh. A 777 wearing the classic DL livery would look fantastic. As would one wearing the classic NW red tail livery. Paint the same plane; one livery per side.

User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5844 times:

I would think that Coca Cola would have to come up with a sweet/Nutrasweet deal for that to happen. Although I'd prefer to see Diet Coke.

We could soon see a roll of 3M Scotch Tape, a Best Buy label, a box of General Mills cereal, or a can of Hormel ham on a 332 yet!   



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5830 times:

Well, the reason I chose Coke is because DL is a longtime Coke customer, and they are both headquartered in Atlanta. I highly doubt you will ever see DL serving Pepsi products.


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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3768 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5751 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
I highly doubt you will ever see DL serving Pepsi products.

They did, but only on PMNW planes from the merger close until August 2009. This was done to honor NW's contract with PepsiCo and so that both Delta and PepsiCo could hammer out a contract exit strategy.

In the end, the remaining portion of the NW Pepsi-Cola contract was later swapped for a snack contract with Frito-Lay (PepsiCo owns Frito-Lay). Hence why Delta serves Frito-Lay drink snacks and offers Lay's and Miss Vickie's chips with BOB sandwiches.



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User currently offlineheathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5680 times:

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 1):
Advertisement for a commercial enterprise painted on an aircraft of a legacy carrier? Not classy in my opinion

Did you not think the Pepsi livery looked sexy on the AF concorde? I for one did!


User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1964 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5583 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
So, how come there have been no PMNW aircraft painted in special liveries?

No idea, and I've wondered why for a long time. No SkyTeam, no "good cause" liveries, nothing. Since the fleet had to be painted anyway, it's really strange that nothing special was applied when the best opportunity existed. Hopefully the rumors are true and we'll see something new soon. Currently the special schemes rarely make appearances in former NW hubs.


User currently offlineWESTERN737800 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5524 times:

I think the A330 and 744 would look great with a Skyteam livery.


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User currently offlinegunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3508 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5451 times:

Quoting goldenstate (Reply 3):
Why would Delta do a Coca-Cola special livery in particular. Do you think they should also do special liveries with other major suppliers or business partners such as Boeing, Airbus, American Express, Ford, GateGourmet, etc?

Or maybe just Atlanta companies...a big, orange Home Depot A333 would look pretty sweet!  

I'm definitely in agreement with those who say ad-based special liveries are pretty tacky. Coca-Cola, for that matter, already has their logo on many, many airplanes...they just don't happen to be flying anymore.



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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3045 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5442 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
Although I'd prefer to see Diet Coke.

It's be easier to do as well, since it's an all metal can.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
Well, the reason I chose Coke is because DL is a longtime Coke customer, and they are both headquartered in Atlanta.

But what's in it for DL to do that?


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5410 times:

Quoting catiii (Reply 13):
But what's in it for DL to do that?

The same argument can be made for AF's Pepsi livery Concorde. I don't see what is the big difference here.



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User currently offlineUATulipfan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5401 times:

I'd like to see a 757 or maybe a DC-9 get repainted back into the Metallic Silver scheme and the Bowling shoe. Both were great liveries.


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User currently offlinedeltairlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8904 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5391 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 14):

The same argument can be made for AF's Pepsi livery Concorde. I don't see what is the big difference here.

Pepsi paid Air France a good bit of cash to splash their brand over the Concorde.

It appears that Coca-Cola would rather spend their advertising dollars in other fashions than splashing it on a Delta plane (not to mention that it just looks tacky).

As for special liveries passing through MSP, I have seen both 767-300s many times up here, and the 767-400 a couple of times. They're not exactly infrequent visitors.

Really don't see any need to paint anything else (besides maybe a 757 from each side, one in the bowling shoe and one in the True Widget) right now.


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5371 times:

Quoting catiii (Reply 13):
It's be easier to do as well, since it's an all metal can.

Aren't most cans all metal?   

[Edited 2011-01-11 18:18:49]


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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5358 times:

The next special livery will be a T7 being dedicated to the city of Atlanta. Have no idea what it's to look like but it will be unveiled on the 21st of this month; marking 70 years in ATL.


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User currently offlineUATulipfan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5352 times:

Perhaps the DC-9s will one day be in Coca-Cola or Pepsi livery...on the shelf at your local super market 


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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5340 times:

Quoting UATulipfan (Reply 19):
Perhaps the DC-9s will one day be in Coca-Cola or Pepsi livery...on the shelf at your local super market 

LOL!! I can all but guarantee it!!

Former NW/DL DC-9s...coming to a Wal-Mart near you!



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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3045 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5244 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 14):
The same argument can be made for AF's Pepsi livery Concorde. I don't see what is the big difference here.

AF didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts. It was part of a $500M rebranding project for Pepsi, they approached both BA and AF with the proposal, awarded it to AF (what they paid AF was undisclosed) and the airplane only flew 16 flights in that paint scheme. So I guess my point is that unless it is something that Coca-Cola wants to do, and is willing to pay DL to do, why would DL just voluntarily do it for no cost?

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 17):
Aren't most cans all metal?

Haha, excellent point. What I meant to say was it's an aluminum silver can, much like an unpainted airplane...  

I think following a legacy model like USAir would be a good thing. Take the 757's and paint one each: Northeast, Western, C&S, North Central, Southern, Hughes Airwest, an then the different variations on the Northwest and Delta liveries throughout the years.


User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10511 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5153 times:

Quoting catiii (Reply 21):
I think following a legacy model like USAir would be a good thing. Take the 757's and paint one each: Northeast, Western, C&S, North Central, Southern, Hughes Airwest, an then the different variations on the Northwest and Delta liveries throughout the years.

Don't forget to paint something in the "Duster" paint scheme!!  



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10511 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4962 times:

I was just thinking that if they did a retro in the WA scheme, it should be the Indianhead scheme rather than the swizzle stick one of later years.


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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3045 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4908 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 22):
Don't forget to paint something in the "Duster" paint scheme!!

But of course! I was thinking all of these actually (excluding '97 and the wavy gravy ones): http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...earch/photo_search.php?id=00010586

Anyone have a similar image for NW?


25 azjubilee : Repainting the PMNW and PM NWAirlink fleet would have been the perfect opportunity to get Skyteam onto a/c that weren't represented, like the CRJ or 7
26 United_fan : On a side-note,the Pepsi plane couldn't fly as high or as fast,I think..(due to its dark color)
27 catiii : Correct. From the really great concordesst.com Because the new identity of Pepsi was based on the color blue, the aircraft would have to be painted a
28 NASCARAirforce : Dammit you beat me to it!
29 Post contains images MNMncrcnwjr : Kidding Right???? IMHO these are the strict clssics .. (However would like to se a legacy Western and Republic series)
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