1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5774 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4381 times:
I was wondering, is there any particular reason why DL hasn't introduced any special liveries on any PMNW aircraft? All of DL's special liveries so far seem to be on PMDL aircraft.
I personally think DL should come up with a red Coca-Cola livery A332. The tail and belly would be painted red (similar to the pink on the Pink BCRF 767-400ER), and there would be a Coca-Cola logo below the titles on the front of the aircraft.
So, how come there have been no PMNW aircraft painted in special liveries?
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Luftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 968 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4276 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
I personally think DL should come up with a red Coca-Cola livery A332.
Advertisement for a commercial enterprise painted on an aircraft of a legacy carrier? Not classy in my opinion. I am very supportive of liveries or stickers promoting non-profit organizations (American Cancer Society, BreastCancerAwareness in the case of DL) or cultural events (Salvador Dalí exhibition), though.
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luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4260 times:
If DL was to do a "coke" flying billboard I think it would have more to do with coke wanting to pay to promote the brand then DL tossing them a bone and just going ahead and doing it. Also in the past airlines that have done a pay to advertise on its planes have been low cost and really did not fly for long periods of time.
goldenstate From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 528 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4245 times:
It's all the Delta fleet now. I don't think there is a specific reason, as in "this is why we will not do any PMNW special liveries." The key focus on the PMNW fleet has been getting it repainted to Delta colors.
Why would Delta do a Coca-Cola special livery in particular. Do you think they should also do special liveries with other major suppliers or business partners such as Boeing, Airbus, American Express, Ford, GateGourmet, etc?
Instead of a flying billboard for some other brand, I'd rather see a 777 in the legacy DL Widget livery or something like that.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6875 posts, RR: 29 Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4168 times:
There are rumors of some type of retro-livery (potentially NW) coming out later this year. Speculation is that one of the the PMNW 757s coming out of the desert may sport some type of retro/heritage/legacy livery.
Delimit From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1433 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4164 times:
Oooohhhhh. A 777 wearing the classic DL livery would look fantastic. As would one wearing the classic NW red tail livery. Paint the same plane; one livery per side.
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2156 posts, RR: 7 Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4072 times:
I would think that Coca Cola would have to come up with a sweet/Nutrasweet deal for that to happen. Although I'd prefer to see Diet Coke.
We could soon see a roll of 3M Scotch Tape, a Best Buy label, a box of General Mills cereal, or a can of Hormel ham on a 332 yet!
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1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5774 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4058 times:
Well, the reason I chose Coke is because DL is a longtime Coke customer, and they are both headquartered in Atlanta. I highly doubt you will ever see DL serving Pepsi products.
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FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3179 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3979 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7): I highly doubt you will ever see DL serving Pepsi products.
They did, but only on PMNW planes from the merger close until August 2009. This was done to honor NW's contract with PepsiCo and so that both Delta and PepsiCo could hammer out a contract exit strategy.
In the end, the remaining portion of the NW Pepsi-Cola contract was later swapped for a snack contract with Frito-Lay (PepsiCo owns Frito-Lay). Hence why Delta serves Frito-Lay drink snacks and offers Lay's and Miss Vickie's chips with BOB sandwiches.
MSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1574 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3811 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter): So, how come there have been no PMNW aircraft painted in special liveries?
No idea, and I've wondered why for a long time. No SkyTeam, no "good cause" liveries, nothing. Since the fleet had to be painted anyway, it's really strange that nothing special was applied when the best opportunity existed. Hopefully the rumors are true and we'll see something new soon. Currently the special schemes rarely make appearances in former NW hubs.
WESTERN737800 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 684 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3752 times:
I think the A330 and 744 would look great with a Skyteam livery.
gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3462 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3679 times:
Quoting goldenstate (Reply 3): Why would Delta do a Coca-Cola special livery in particular. Do you think they should also do special liveries with other major suppliers or business partners such as Boeing, Airbus, American Express, Ford, GateGourmet, etc?
Or maybe just Atlanta companies...a big, orange Home Depot A333 would look pretty sweet!
I'm definitely in agreement with those who say ad-based special liveries are pretty tacky. Coca-Cola, for that matter, already has their logo on many, many airplanes...they just don't happen to be flying anymore.
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5774 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3638 times:
Quoting catiii (Reply 13): But what's in it for DL to do that?
The same argument can be made for AF's Pepsi livery Concorde. I don't see what is the big difference here.
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UATulipfan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 159 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3629 times:
I'd like to see a 757 or maybe a DC-9 get repainted back into the Metallic Silver scheme and the Bowling shoe. Both were great liveries.
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deltairlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8772 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3619 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 14):
The same argument can be made for AF's Pepsi livery Concorde. I don't see what is the big difference here.
Pepsi paid Air France a good bit of cash to splash their brand over the Concorde.
It appears that Coca-Cola would rather spend their advertising dollars in other fashions than splashing it on a Delta plane (not to mention that it just looks tacky).
As for special liveries passing through MSP, I have seen both 767-300s many times up here, and the 767-400 a couple of times. They're not exactly infrequent visitors.
Really don't see any need to paint anything else (besides maybe a 757 from each side, one in the bowling shoe and one in the True Widget) right now.
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2156 posts, RR: 7 Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3599 times:
Quoting catiii (Reply 13): It's be easier to do as well, since it's an all metal can.
Aren't most cans all metal?
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FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6520 posts, RR: 11 Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3586 times:
The next special livery will be a T7 being dedicated to the city of Atlanta. Have no idea what it's to look like but it will be unveiled on the 21st of this month; marking 70 years in ATL.
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UATulipfan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 159 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3580 times:
Perhaps the DC-9s will one day be in Coca-Cola or Pepsi livery...on the shelf at your local super market
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FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6520 posts, RR: 11 Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3568 times:
Quoting UATulipfan (Reply 19): Perhaps the DC-9s will one day be in Coca-Cola or Pepsi livery...on the shelf at your local super market
LOL!! I can all but guarantee it!!
Former NW/DL DC-9s...coming to a Wal-Mart near you!
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catiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2279 posts, RR: 3 Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3472 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 14): The same argument can be made for AF's Pepsi livery Concorde. I don't see what is the big difference here.
AF didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts. It was part of a $500M rebranding project for Pepsi, they approached both BA and AF with the proposal, awarded it to AF (what they paid AF was undisclosed) and the airplane only flew 16 flights in that paint scheme. So I guess my point is that unless it is something that Coca-Cola wants to do, and is willing to pay DL to do, why would DL just voluntarily do it for no cost?
Haha, excellent point. What I meant to say was it's an aluminum silver can, much like an unpainted airplane...
I think following a legacy model like USAir would be a good thing. Take the 757's and paint one each: Northeast, Western, C&S, North Central, Southern, Hughes Airwest, an then the different variations on the Northwest and Delta liveries throughout the years.
mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9202 posts, RR: 14 Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3381 times:
Quoting catiii (Reply 21): I think following a legacy model like USAir would be a good thing. Take the 757's and paint one each: Northeast, Western, C&S, North Central, Southern, Hughes Airwest, an then the different variations on the Northwest and Delta liveries throughout the years.
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mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9202 posts, RR: 14 Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3190 times:
I was just thinking that if they did a retro in the WA scheme, it should be the Indianhead scheme rather than the swizzle stick one of later years.
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catiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2279 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3136 times:
Quoting mayor (Reply 22): Don't forget to paint something in the "Duster" paint scheme!!
25 azjubilee: Repainting the PMNW and PM NWAirlink fleet would have been the perfect opportunity to get Skyteam onto a/c that weren't represented, like the CRJ or 7
26 United_fan: On a side-note,the Pepsi plane couldn't fly as high or as fast,I think..(due to its dark color)
27 catiii: Correct. From the really great concordesst.com Because the new identity of Pepsi was based on the color blue, the aircraft would have to be painted a