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The Fade Of Cathay Pacific's B-Hon  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

B-HON is the newest member of Cathay Pacific's B 747-300 fleet. It is about 10 years old. However, it is now sitting in a desert collecting dust.

The reason why B-HON cannot find a customer for it is because it has similar cockpit design of the B 747-400 and airlines would rather choose the B 747-400 instead.

So, what will happen to B-HON? Will it be scrapped? Hell no! I hope not!

Will it rejoin Cathay as a Passenger, or even Cargo Aircraft? Or will it simply be sold? Or leased out?

 Smile

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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

The reason why B-HON cannot find a customer for it is because it has similar cockpit design of the B 747-400 and airlines would rather choose the B 747-400 instead.

Wrong as usual Desmond.

The 743 has cockpit commonality with the 742 and earlier variants and not with the 744. That was one of the main reasons that CX got rid of the 743s from their fleet to start with.



User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2080 times:

Try to find us some factual information for a change, will you?

User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2068 times:

So, what will happen to B-HON? Will it be scrapped? Hell no! I hope not!

Hell yes, it's gonna be scrapped. Maybe you'll get to drink Coca-Cola out of it, when they turn it into soda cans.  Acting devilish



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User currently offlineB767-400er From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2080 times:

The reason -Hon was left behind while other -300s were leased out is because it has a different wing-root design, simular to the 744. This feature was also added to a couple of very late 743s and I believe, some 742s.

Tony,
B767-400er


User currently offlineB767-400er From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

Here's some pics:


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Tony,
B767-400er






User currently onlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2600 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2039 times:
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Tony/B767-400ER,
Your information is bang on! B-HON does have a B747-400-style wingroot, unlike the rest of Cathay Pacific's B747-300 fleet.

I was initially unsure, but a quick check of the photo database proved you are absolutely correct.

B-HON, with the B747-400-style wingroot;

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AP-BFX, ex-Cathay Pacific B747-300 with the classic-style wingroot;

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Nice to hear from a younger member of the forum who can provide some very positive, useful and accurate information. I definately wasn't aware of that info, and I'm sure many others didn't know, thanks!

Hope to speak to you again soon Tony...

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineR.I.P TWA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

How are the cockpits similiar? If I recall, the 744 has a flight crew of 2, and the 743 has a crew of 3. That's a pretty big difference, no?

User currently offlineR.I.P TWA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2026 times:

Interesting info as I was unaware of that fact as well. Question retracted.

User currently offlinePolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

God damn! For the last few days every United Airline's post I read is being criticized! Dont be so hard on him. Hahaha.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

Dont be so hard on him

He brings it on himself. Admit it...


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1994 times:

Sorry guys! I admit that I have made a mistake on this.

B-HON has the B 747-400 style winglet, but not similar cockpits.

B-HON is about 10-12 years old. Unlike other B 743s (which are leased to PIA), B-HON is sitting in a desert collecting dust.

It should be able to find a home for itself. CX is still looking for a buyer for B-HON and hopefully someone might wanna buy it.



User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

"It should be able to find a home for itself. CX is still looking for a buyer for B-HON and hopefully someone might wanna buy it."

United Airline, after you took your name off my respected users list I went into my room amd cried for an hour, what happened?  Big grin

I am sure that our friend B-HON will be able to find himself a home if he gets his act straight and stops spending his money on liquor and drugs.  Smile

but really, there are numerous freight operators out there like Atlas Air who are looking for second-hand 747s with low hours on them. B-HON would be a very good canidate for Cargo conversion.

-Tom



User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

remember it has RR engines though.....difficult to fit into anyone's fleet, although it can go where these ex-BA 742s are going after their freighter conversions. Any ideas where those are going? One is nearly ready to leave HKG as a freighter.

User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

As a matter of fact, I think I can make out the regestration "B-HON" in my can of Pepsi. Let us all remember B-HON as I consume my Pepsi.

-Tom


User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

"remember it has RR engines though.....difficult to fit into anyone's fleet, although it can go where these ex-BA 742s are going after their freighter conversions. Any ideas where those are going? One is nearly ready to leave HKG as a freighter."

Well, it's not like Atlas is very good on standardizing on one engine type. I could have sworn I saw a pic of a RB.211 742 in Atlas colors.

-Tom




User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

One of the staff at CX told me that B-HON would most likely be converted into freighters. Scrapyard would be the last resort for it. So.........



User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Well, it's not like Atlas is very good on standardizing on one engine type.

Actually, Atlas is COMPLETELY standardized on the GE CF6s. No exceptions.


User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (13 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

As far as I know, Atlas has no Rolls Royce freighters at all.

User currently offlineGUNDU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 1914 times:

United Airline:

One of the staff at CX told me that B-HON would most likely be converted into freighters. Scrapyard would be the last resort for it. So.........

Hmm,I didn't know that there are TWO B-HON aircraft!! LOL.Goodness Desmond,another of your useless posts...


GUNDU  Big thumbs up




User currently offlineQantas737 From Australia, joined Jul 2000, 738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (13 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Gundu has been let out of the closet again..........

User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

No, Atlas did have a few JT9 powered 747-100Fs a little while ago, but I was mistaken in thinking that they still had them. And I could have sworn I saw a pic of an Atlas Rb powered 742F.

-Tom


User currently offlineB744 From New Zealand, joined Dec 1999, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 4 months 12 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

United Airline wrote "B-HON has the B 747-400 style winglet". Are you sure about that? I thought it was just the wingroot that was the same.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

Are you sure about that? I thought it was just the wingroot that was the same.

Dude, its all the same to him....

I've seen trained monkeys make more sense than Desmond does.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9187 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (13 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

I have seen UNTRAINED monkeys making more sense than many users. And someone is a chump to be honest.

25 ILOVEA340 : man forget it. If there is no buyer it wil eventually be scrapped.
26 Post contains images GUNDU : Qantas737:I heard that!! Untied Airline:Goodness,how can an untrained monkey make more sense than a couple of users?Monkeys are uncivilized,while foru
27 ZK-NBT : B-HON I guess will be converted to a freighter they won't scrap it are you crazy someone will have it. Guys you should look at yourselves monkeymen it
28 BA747-436 : You lot need to grow up and stop bitch'n about each other, you all like a couple of old granma's with nothing better to do then have a good moan! ever
29 Oxygen : Gundu, although I am not totally disagreeing with you on this matter, but ''I feel that the moderation of the forums is still poor. But at least every
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