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EA, PA, Avianca, And A 990-- Must Be MIA?  
User currently offlinetimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6835 posts, RR: 6
Posted (3 years 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

Could this be anywhere but Miami?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01...50433866/in/set-72157625056992852/

How about this-- is it San Diego?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01...79212669/in/set-72157625056992852/

Somebody ought to recognize this

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01...82075374/in/set-72157625056992852/



[Edited 2011-01-14 16:50:02]



[Edited 2011-01-14 16:56:16]

[Edited 2011-01-14 16:57:26]

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User currently offlineusafdo From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

Definitely MIA...notice the EA DC-8 in the background!

User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4976 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Quoting timz (Thread starter):
Could this be anywhere but Miami?

Could be New York / JFK. (I would guess JFK over IDL as the EA DC-8 is in the New Mark paint scheme).

I am still trying to figure out who's 990 that is. It has a white crown and white tail. Varig maybe? Did SAS ever fly the 990 across the Atlantic.

[Edited 2011-01-14 19:22:58]


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User currently offlinePrinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

It looks like Miami at the old Concourse C area. The 990 may have been from a Peruvian airline that once served Miami. I believe it was called APSA.

This is from Wikipedia...

APSA operated routes to Los Angeles, Miami, Mexico City, Acapulco, San Salvador, Managua, Tegucigalpa, Panama, Caracas, Barranquilla, Bogotá, Guayaquil, Santiago de Chile, Buenos Aires, Montevideo, Asunción, Rio de Janeiro, and São Paulo. To operate those routes it used the Douglas DC-6 and later the Convair 990.

Towards the end of the 1960s, routes to London, Madrid and Paris were begun, using Douglas DC-8-52 in conjunction with Iberia Airlines of Spain (a major stockholder in APSA).

Because it was a money-losing operation, and as a pretext by Peruvian dictator Gen. Juan Velasco Alvarado to get rid of the foreign-owned stock in the largest Peruvian carrier, the Peruvian government shut down operations in 1971.[1] In 1973 Velasco's government formed their own national carrier, Aeroperú, whose name made it an spiritual successor to APSA although it was, in the beginning, a state-owned company.



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User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4976 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Quoting Prinair (Reply 3):
It looks like Miami at the old Concourse C area. The 990 may have been from a Peruvian airline that once served Miami. I believe it was called APSA.


Ah yes, I had forgotten about APSA.

I think it is MIA as well. I mentioned JFK in answer to the OPs question .. "Could it be anything but MIA?". The airline/aircraft mixture could have been JFK ... but the surrounding area sure doesn't look like New York!

Looking in the photo database here, Pan American, APSA and Avianca all shared the same area on the field. That structure behind the Avianca B720 tail looks very distinctive, but have not been able to find it anywhere. I am guessing the view shown is facing north/northwest, with NW 36th Street.



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User currently offlinekellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 693 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 4):
Quoting Prinair (Reply 3):
It looks like Miami at the old Concourse C area. The 990 may have been from a Peruvian airline that once served Miami. I believe it was called APSA.

I would say it was Miami as well. APSA did fly the 990 to MIA. But that is not Concourse C. I would say it is the international area, with Avianca, Pan Am and the 990 which was Concourse E. Eastern was on Concourse C and D. (B had not been built yet). I used to work for Eastern in the ramp tower there and assigned the gates for all of Eastern's flights at that time. The ramp tower was in Concourse C. That Eastern DC8 looks like it is parked at the end of Concourse D. We often parked DC8s on the end of D.

Quoting longhauler (Reply 4):
I am guessing the view shown is facing north/northwest, with NW 36th Street.

Yes, it looks like that. From Concourse E you could look out that way as well.


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7174 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

100% that picture is MIA. Looks like the field and the planes make perfect sense.


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User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

Quoting Prinair (Reply 3):
The 990 may have been from a Peruvian airline that once served Miami. I believe it was called APSA.

Aerolíneas Peruanas Sociedad Anónima

LVTMB


User currently offlinetymnbalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 949 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Quoting timz (Thread starter):


http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01...2852/

I love how the PA 727 says "Pan American" vs. "Pan Am." I thought "Pan American" was changed to "Pan Am" before the 727's came around.



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User currently offlineav757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 660 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1931 times:
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It is definitely at MIA, that is an Avianca flight from BOG a Boeing 720-059B registry HK-725 c/n 18087.
Avianca operated out of concourse E back in the late 60's, 70's, and 80's and all ground handling was done by PA.

This picture is before 1971 when the airplanes where painted with the red and white livery.

AV757

[Edited 2011-01-15 13:39:38]

User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

Quoting timz (Thread starter):
How about this-- is it San Diego?

This is indeed San Diego. It is looking south on Pacific Highway towards downtown. That was when the displaced threshold was only 700 feet (compared to 1810 feet now) and they flew in a bit lower then what we see today. My grandfather helped build these beauties.



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8371 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1710 times:
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Concourse E Miami, definitely with the Avianca, Eastern and Pan AM 727-100.

User currently online727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6435 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1573 times:

What about the DL 880. IDL/JFK or maybe SFO?

Quoting kellmark (Reply 5):
I used to work for Eastern in the ramp tower there and assigned the gates for all of Eastern's flights at that time.

Can you tell me when MIA first got jetways? It had to be between 1964 & 1970.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25300 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

Why don't people who post those photos include captions with information on locations and dates (where available)?

Quoting longhauler (Reply 2):
Did SAS ever fly the 990 across the Atlantic.

Quite sure not.

Quoting tymnbalewne (Reply 8):
I love how the PA 727 says "Pan American" vs. "Pan Am." I thought "Pan American" was changed to "Pan Am" before the 727's came around.

No, 4 years later. I think the 747 (first deliveries December 1969) was the first PA type to use the shortened "Pan Am" name as part of the livery. The first PA 721 was delivered in December 1965.


User currently offlinetimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6835 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 12):
What about the DL 880. IDL/JFK or maybe SFO?

Neither of those.


User currently onlineSANMAN66 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1473 times:
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Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 10):
This is indeed San Diego.

Yup, that's SAN. The third picture with the DL 880 looks like PHL.



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User currently offlinekellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 693 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1394 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 12):
Can you tell me when MIA first got jetways? It had to be between 1964 & 1970.

I can tell you that I started there in 1967. At that time, as I recall, we had jetways on most gates. There were some which were used for propeller driven aircraft, like Lockheed Electras and Convair 440s which did not utilize jetways. They were the gates closest to the main terminal.

When the stretch DC8-61s were introduced, in fact which was just around when I started, we also sometimes would use 2 jetways to facilitate loading, but it didn't last long.


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