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How Is DL's MSP-MEX Service Doing?  
User currently offlineaf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2653 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

Its been almost a month since DL started non-stop service from MSP to MEX. How have the loads been so far? I hope this route works for DL and they will consider more expansion at MSP.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7505 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

One month is not sufficient period to judge success on a new route as such, particularly during one of the slowest times of the year after the holidays.

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7558 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

It'd be very interesting to see statistics. I wonder how many people originate at MSP and how many are connecting from other airports. Same with the pax flying from MEX... would be interesting to see what percentage stays in MSP and how many have onwards connections.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17281 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 2):
I wonder how many people originate at MSP and how many are connecting from other airports.

MSP and MEMMEX don't make too much sense even in a world without MX. The local markets aren't very big--you can count it on one hand in MEM--and the connecting opportunities are slim. I'm not sure what purpose MEMMEX serves that ATLMEX does not, or where you flow passengers beyond MSP.



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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

I agree it dosn't see totally necessary but i give delta credit for trying the route.

There is gonna need to be o&d for MSP-MEX in the end or MEX-ATL, SLC, JFK with daily service and connections pretty much covers all the major markets that Aeromexico dosn't already fly to. MSP dosn't really add much except offer a non-stop to MSP, the timing stinks


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7558 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

I wonder if Best Buy, Imation, Cargill and 3M can generate sufficient traffic to make the flight profitable. I mean, a combination of the high yield traffic generated by these corporations plus a number of V.F.R. travelers might help DL turn a profit.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7480 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
MSP and MEMMEX don't make too much sense even in a world without MX. The local markets aren't very big--you can count it on one hand in MEM--and the connecting opportunities are slim. I'm not sure what purpose MEMMEX serves that ATLMEX does not, or where you flow passengers beyond MSP.

I agree about MEM-MEX, but MSP-MEX does make since. There is actually a pretty large local market from YYC/YEG-MEX and with MX gone, this route is in a good place to capture that traffic.

I think MSP-MEX will do ok. I doubt it will be a barn burner, but with the Canada-Mexico market being large and with AM being a partner, it will probably hang around for the long haul.



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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

I know the connection options are so limited cause of the time it lands in MSP but connections are also possible to DSM, FAR, ORD. Obviously not too great a list but they will certainly see some seats connect if the price is low enough and might survive if the business traffic is high yielding and large enough which i guess we will find out in time.

The flight dosn't add much from a network and connection perspective unfortunately so i think its future will rest on how profitable the MEX-MSP business traffic is on the route. The connections will fill some seats and raise occupancy but probably will be low yielding. Even YYC and YEG the high yielding last minute business crowd will probably connect in IAH to get their Air Canada miles, more frequency options, and its shorter.


User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1896 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1599 times:

Quoting af773atmsp (Thread starter):
How have the loads been so far?

I remember getting a look at the numbers when it started, and it was pretty good. From then until this thread I guess I forgot about the new service. I just heard some info for the next 7 days, and the loads are not good at all. I don't know how well it did in the recent past, but if this keeps up I'd unfortunately bet on an imminent route cancellation. I was hoping that this would stick since it's a new route from MSP, but I think it end up like TOL.


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3464 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

I don't understand why MSP-MEX wouldn't work, it offers similar connections to DTW in terms of flight times. Many destinations in the upper Midwest are served via MSP, as well as the aforementioned service to Canada from MSP. Also, the local market should be able to support a daily 319, in addition to the connections the flight offers, quite easily. If SLC-MEX works then MSP-MEX should certainly have a good shot, given that it's offered on smaller equipment.

Jeremy


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7480 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 9):
Also, the local market should be able to support a daily 319

Actually, by itself, it cant. But combined with the connections should make it work.



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3464 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1391 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 10):

Actually, by itself, it cant. But combined with the connections should make it work.

That what was I said; the local market, in addition to connections, should make the flight work. It's only 124 daily seats. Does anyone have O&D information for MSP-MEX?

Jeremy


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