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User currently offlinebueb0g From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2010, 675 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8921 times:

I was reading through today's Flight International, when I noticed an advert in the back for 737-800 flightcrew - for Jet2. The ad states "We are flying 737-800s alongside our B737-300s & B757s in Manchester from this summer and will be progressively introducing the type at other bases." It is complimtented by a very nice (probably CGI) A to A shot of a 737-800, with winglets, in Jet2's livery.

This surprised me somewhat - I remember an interview with Jet2's CEO not long ago, and he stated that they were definitly NOT in the process of aquiring A320's/737NGs, and would be sticking with the 737 Classics for the forseeable future.

I headed over to the Jet2 wiki entry and it shows their first 738 arrived this month, 12.3 years old (making it 1998 build) in an all econ config of 189 seats, same as Ryanair. I guess it's just being used for crew training at the moment, as the advert states they will be introduced "from this summer". It also implies more are on the way. However on the Jet2.com site, at the fleet & ops pdf (http://www.jet2.com/content/en/pilots/pdfs/fleet.pdf) there is no mention of the new addition.

Does anybody know where they're (I would imagine leased) from? Or how many they intend to aquire? What caused this sudden change in attitude from the airline? And lastly - has anyone seen/photographed it yet? There have been no pictures posted on a.net yet.

Thanks!

[Edited 2011-01-18 10:39:29]


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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8882 times:

one is ex HV (Transavia) from the Netherlands. Transavia flew them in an all Y 186 seats configuration and indeed already delivered to Jet2.


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User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1452 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8819 times:

Jethro's usually reliable website has:

G-GDFC B737-8K2 ex PH-HZC into MAN on 13 Jan 11 for paint
and another from TUI arriving prior to Summer 11



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User currently offlinemhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8789 times:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nixx-pixx/5340407072/

Currently in MAN undergoing painting.



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User currently offlinespud757 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8553 times:

Be great to see LS flying these birds... About time they took delivery of some NG metal

User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4359 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8444 times:

Quoting bueb0g (Thread starter):
and he stated that they were definitly NOT in the process of aquiring A320's/737NGs

I also read the interview in Airliner World, I think his point was more that they would not buy new airplanes, but with the 737-300s getting older and airlines like TUI, Transavia and Air Berlin selling their 12 year old 738s, it perfectly fits in what he would eventually be looking for.



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7816 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8444 times:

Does this mean another operator dropping the B737-300?.

User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8399 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 6):
Does this mean another operator dropping the B737-300?.

I dont think they are retiring their -300's, just expanding with -800's.


User currently onlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3931 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8362 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 6):
Does this mean another operator dropping the B737-300?.

Probably not dropping immediately. There is quite a sizable fleet, but most/all new additions to the fleet are likely to be (used) NG's. It makes sense, the 738 can do flights to the Canaries and other current 757 destinations with similar capacity and lower costs. I wonder if they are going to take 73G's too, the 189 seaters might be a bit big for many destinations.



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User currently offlinemhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8195 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 6):

Does this mean another operator dropping the B737-300?.

AFAIK they will not be dropping all of them, even with a sizeable 738 purchase, as they require some -300QC variants for use on Royal Mail flights and the -800 does not yet have a QC variant.



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User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3055 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8122 times:

I also remember reading the Airliner World article (I do not have it to hand), but sure I remember the article stating they would be getting 737NG's but purely from the second hand market...

I am sure they mentioned that the leasing rates of older second hand 737NG's had come down in recent years and Jet2 would look to leasing these in the future to aid expansion - as and when they become available for the right price, but they had no intention of reducing the current 737-300 fleet.

They have actually recently completely overhauled the cabins in the 737-300 and 757's with new seats and carpets.

The CEO mentioned something along the lines of while the 737 Classics may not be the most economical of aircrafts to fly (fuel wise), but when this is balanced out against the lease rates they pay, the lower costs or parts they were still a great option for the airline.

The airline seems to have a very similar policy to Air Transat in Canada, where they do not purchase new aircraft and build up a large fleet of second hand aircraft of the same type. So they have very low overheads when it comes to the equipment they use and willing to sacrifice a little of using slight less economical aircraft.


User currently offline330Guy From Ireland, joined Nov 2010, 453 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7672 times:

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 10):
I also remember reading the Airliner World article (I do not have it to hand),

Ahh dont worry, I do... 

It says and I quote "There is also the matter for a potental replacementfor its B737-300 models, most of which are now more than 22 years old. But dont expect to see a brand new Airbus A319 or B737-700 toll out in Jet2 livery any time soon"

It goes on to mention they perfer classisc to keep costs low. Maybe they got the 738 at a good price so were able to keep to the Bus Model but buy something newer.



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User currently offlinepicturethis From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 196 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7403 times:

A lot of their Boeing 737-300's are quite old, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, as they are maintained thoroughly. That doesn't disguise how they will have problems though (I know from working on them), so having a new generation a/c in the fleet may be useful.

I would guess that if the cost of upkeep/maintenance on their B737-300's, and paying for the lease is starting to match the actual costs involved of having a B738 instead, that might explain the move.

It illustrates some long term planning also.



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User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7380 times:

Additionally,

G-GDFD B738 DUE ex TUI Germany
G-GDFE B733 DUE ex Thomson Airways (rumoured G-THOL)

G-BYAH and G-BYAI that are going to Allegiant, are due to be leased to Jet2 this summer before entering service with Allegiant for their Hawaii flights in the Winter. Aircraft will fly in Allegiant livery, with Jet2 titles... apparently.


User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6996 times:

& here she is!
http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=6977


User currently offline330Guy From Ireland, joined Nov 2010, 453 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6918 times:

Slighty off topic but involves the Jet2 fleet, I heard rumor of a 767-300 on the horizon, Is there any truth to this??


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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6901 times:

Looks great! Does anyone know when G-CGET, G-GDFA and G-GDFB will be painted in the full c/s?

Quoting 330Guy (Reply 15):
Slighty off topic but involves the Jet2 fleet, I heard rumor of a 767-300 on the horizon, Is there any truth to this??

They had plans last year for 2 ex. Varig 763's but this was cancelled because it was considered as too risky in the current economic climate.



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User currently offline330Guy From Ireland, joined Nov 2010, 453 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6862 times:

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 16):

Cheers, I had a feeling the plans were shelved, It was a while ago I heard and with no movement on it as of yet & the Airliner World article I quoted not mentioning it my only guess was plans were put on hold indefinitly



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User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6790 times:

The 737-800 in Jet2 is on A.net now!

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User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6789 times:

Would be one stunning 767 if they ever do acquire one in the future, especially if it was fitted with winglets!

User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 616 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 6706 times:

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 13):
G-BYAH and G-BYAI that are going to Allegiant, are due to be leased to Jet2 this summer before entering service with Allegiant for their Hawaii flights in the Winter. Aircraft will fly in Allegiant livery, with Jet2 titles... apparently.

Sounds about right. There has been one (can't see the reg, I think its AI) parked at LTN all week in Allegiant colours, minus titles.


User currently offlinepoz2brs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6380 times:

Quoting EICVD (Reply 19):
Would be one stunning 767 if they ever do acquire one in the future, especially if it was fitted with winglets!

I suspect we will see 763s in LS colours eventually. There should be plenty on the market once the 787 deliveries begin, looking at the airlines that own 763s and buying 787s, which should suit LS's frugal outlay policies perfectly. Perhaps they will look to start some permanent Trans-Atlantic routes?

Quoting picturethis (Reply 12):
I would guess that if the cost of upkeep/maintenance on their B737-300's, and paying for the lease is starting to match the actual costs involved of having a B738 instead, that might explain the move.

Interesting. If this is the case it would surely be unlikely that the 733s will find a new home and must be destined for parting out.


User currently offlinebueb0g From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2010, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5848 times:

Quoting 330Guy (Reply 15):
Slighty off topic but involves the Jet2 fleet, I heard rumor of a 767-300 on the horizon, Is there any truth to this??

Yep they're waiting for the 787s to arrive, so they can buy the 763s dirt cheap.



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User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5833 times:

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 20):
Sounds about right. There has been one (can't see the reg, I think its AI) parked at LTN all week in Allegiant colours, minus titles.

Been there for nearly 2 weeks and was still there today.. I hear its not going to Allegiant anymore? There is also a First Choice 757 with an American REG sitting up there outside the Thomson hangar.


User currently offlineplanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5750 times:

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 23):
There is also a First Choice 757 with an American REG sitting up there outside the Thomson hangar.

Left today for FedEx, ex G-OOOZ.

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...FD-Federal-Express-%28FedEx%29.php

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 13):
G-GDFE B733 DUE ex Thomson Airways (rumoured G-THOL)

I have an feeling this is the 733 which the loaders absolutely hate.

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 13):
Additionally,

G-GDFD B738 DUE ex TUI Germany
G-GDFE B733 DUE ex Thomson Airways (rumoured G-THOL)

G-BYAH and G-BYAI that are going to Allegiant, are due to be leased to Jet2 this summer before entering service with Allegiant for their Hawaii flights in the Winter. Aircraft will fly in Allegiant livery, with Jet2 titles... apparently.

What do they have planned with all this extra capacity? There is a 733 based at Gatwick in part for ski flights, could there be more aircraft based at LGW to take some of the capacity lost by Viking?


25 aidoair : In what way? From experience with the aircraft it's fine... I know that G-THOO (The one with the winglets) is the one known to be different from a gr
26 planesailing : We have ON and OL based and I have heard that one is a nightmare to trim, which I believe is OL unless my memory does not serve me correctly. If it i
27 aidoair : Oh yeah I heard about one of the 733 having issues along those lines... just assumed it would have been G-THOO, it always seems to be going tech!!! G
28 Giancavia : Damn it, And I waited until 3 in the cold and rain .. she wasnt moving.. ARGH!
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