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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 1035 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 26342 times:

Firstly, a summary of topics discussed in Thread #43


AI - shelves MEL.
TK - into SYD 4th Q 2011.
EK - rumours on change of routing 408/409.
HA - current business prospects in OZ.
TT - lack of ontime performance.
LAN - new bilateral interline agreement with JQ.
Brindabella - ceases flying BNE-PQQ.
QF - purchases Network Aviation - conjecture on new ac?
- new safety demo with JT.
- A330 domestic config.
- delivery of 3 738 to Jetconnect Feb 2011.
- codeshare with AY BKK-HEL and SIN-HEL
- new PER-Exmouth 717 3 weekly' and 4 additional MEL-PER (3 with A333).
DJ - tie up with NZ approved as has alliance with EY.
- rebranding.
- speculation of the future livery of VH-VUY
- speculation on deployment of the expected A330's.
- strategic alliance with XR.

MEL 27.7 million pax for 2010, more discussion on infrastructure.
ROK closed due to flooding.
Impact of floods in Brisbane, and infrastructure damage.

Secondly, what a very busy period in aviation in OZ. Heaps of "stuff" happening with DJ, A380's back to LAX, and QF drop SFO for DFW. I say again, we wont recognise the Australian aviation scene in 10 years from now, its going to be a whole lot different - IMHO. Enjoy Australia day, go celebrate this wonderful country of ours.

remember the t shirt "I own an airline"on the front - "qantas" on the back
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User currently offlinejetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 26091 times:

I will get the thread rolling with an interesting vistor to CNS today. G-OOBE Thomson Airways Boeing 757-28A on one of its many exclusive private exotic charters. Its about $70,000 per person.


They have a 78 passenger 2x2 configuration instead of the standard 233 seats. A flight crew of 3 pilots, an expedition chef, a catering officer, two engineers, a dedicated luggage handler, and eight flight attendants, offering one of the highest crew-to-traveler ratios in the business: 1 to 5.

Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
User currently onlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 26039 times:

Quoting jetfuel (Reply 1):

Could the 757 make CNS with just the one stop ?

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User currently offlinejetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 25989 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 2):
Could the 757 make CNS with just the one stop ?

Prior to Cairns the previous stop was Apia, Samoa. The link in the first post shows the route

Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
User currently onlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 25950 times:

Quoting jetfuel (Reply 3):

My bad. As the saying goes, if all else fails, read the instructions

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User currently offlineptrjms From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 25887 times:

Does anyone know why there was a SQ cargo 747 in Perth this morning (22nd of Jan)?? Departed about 615 am??
Was a great sight, but I have never seen one here before.

User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1859 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 25857 times:

Rockhampton Airport will reopen Monday for day time flying and expects to be open for night time flying by Wednesday.


User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1859 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 25852 times:

Quoting http://australianaviation.com.au/2011/01/qal-reports-record-passenger-movements-in-2010/:

Queensland Airports Limited (QAL) has reported record passenger movements for 2010, after seeing over 7.3 million people pass through the Gold Coast, Townsville and Mount Isa airports last year.
The three QAL owned airports recorded an aggregate passenger growth of more than 10 per cent over 2009, with the Gold Coast exceeding five million passengers passing through its terminal for the first time in a calendar year. Townsville and Mount Isa also achieved record results, after tracking over 1.6 million and 200,000 passengers through their airports, respectively.

User currently offlineTassieboy From Australia, joined Apr 2010, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 25796 times:

VH-VUY is painted and has an 'interesting' name. Anyone seen it or know anything?!

User currently offlineJQflightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 1124 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 25699 times:

looking at an old AF Netwrork from 1992/1993 and i have noticed something interesting...
1 x Weekly SYD-NOU-Wallis Is-PPT on a 733
Where was this a/c based? PPT or NOU ?

User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 25685 times:

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 9):
looking at an old AF Netwrork from 1992/1993 and i have noticed something interesting...
1 x Weekly SYD-NOU-Wallis Is-PPT on a 733
Where was this a/c based? PPT or NOU ?

NOU. At one time AF must have codeshared on this:

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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Michael eaton

User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 25486 times:

Quoting Tassieboy (Reply 8):
VH-VUY is painted and has an 'interesting' name. Anyone seen it or know anything?!

What? I saw the aircraft on the 20 January, and it was still white and in service. Where did you see it painted and what was the 'interesting' name?


From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlineTassieboy From Australia, joined Apr 2010, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 25451 times:

A friend works at DJ and saw it out the front of the hanger in MEL, I'm pretty sure he said, He took a couple photos on his phone, It has the red AFL football logo on it and not much else to be honest, But! There is a non-painted gap between the words 'Virgin' and 'Proudly sponsors' and the gap is way to big for 'Blue' which makes me think they must be waiting until they announce everything before they continue painting. So I think it's safe to assume the new name is not going to be V Australia!

User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 25403 times:

Quoting Tassieboy (Reply 12):
It has the red AFL football logo on it and not much else to be honest, But! There is a non-painted gap between the words 'Virgin' and 'Proudly sponsors'

I'm hoping for Virgin Pacific! But overall I feel that news is a bit disappointing, as that could suggest that VH-VUY will not be the plane to get the new C/S, but rather was left blank to become a logo jet.

If anyone get's a photo, please upload it!


Edit: I started thinking, they wouldn't be able to fully paint a plane in 1-2 days (or would they?), so maybe the AFL logo is a temporary decal before the new C/S (but then again, that doesn't explain the gap between "Virgin" and the "proudly sponsors"

[Edited 2011-01-22 19:19:33]

From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlinejetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 25384 times:

It will operate the 7am flight on Monday MEL-ADL. Schedule has it visting OOL too

Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
User currently offlineAirbusa322 From Australia, joined Apr 2009, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 25330 times:

Can someone confirm its outside of the hangers? Because I will upload a shot over the next 3 hours if it is.

[Edited 2011-01-22 20:13:40]

User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 679 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 25051 times:


"Sneak peak" of the new special livery from the Virgin Blue Facebook page.

[Edited 2011-01-23 02:09:16]

User currently offlinejetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 24872 times:

Look at the Virgin font. Thats a good hint

Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
User currently offlineQF175 From Australia, joined Mar 2007, 834 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 24878 times:

Brisbane has a new Domestic carrier, with Newcastle-based Aeropelican Airlines announcing a new Monday to Friday service from Narrabri to Brisbane.

Effective 28FEB11

NAA/BNE 09:20L/09:50L OT5702 MTWTF
BNE/NAA 10:20L/12:50L OT5703 MTWTF

Fares start at $179 one way. Services will be operated by the Airline's 19 seater J32s.

Aeropelican's expanded network will appear as follows:

Source - Great Circle Mapper

Pacific Blue is upping BNE-DPS up to 10x weekly with effect late March 2011. The extra 3 weekly services operate as follows:

BNE/DPS 16:40L/21:10L DJ4199 T/W/F
DPS/BNE 15:40L/23:25L DJ4196 M/T/T

And the positive growth is continuing at Brisbane Airport:


394,539 (3.2%)

1,399,864 (9.8%)

1,795,286 (8.2%)

Time to look at expanding the Domestic terminal me thinks. The massive expansion planned some time ago was placed on the backburner due to the GFC but the tables are turning and it is time to look at it once again!


User currently offlinetayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 24840 times:

When can we expect to ADL and SYD to report their annual figures? would be good for a national comparison (like the Canadian airports stat thread currently going: Canadian Airport Stats In 2010 (by thenoflyzone Jan 22 2011 in Civil Aviation) )

repost from previous Aus thread just before it was locked for this one:

"Melbourne Airport soars to 27.7million passengers in 2010"


Calendar year to Dec 2010:

5,920,000 International (5,207,000 - 2009) - 14%
21,685,000 Domestic (19,920,000 - 2009) - 9%
126,000 Transit (122,000 - 2009) - 3%

total: 27,731,000 (25,249,000 - 2009) - 10%/

China +22%
Malaysia +22%
Indonesia +18%
Japan +18%
Taiwan +18%
France +15%
South Korea +15%
Germany +14%
Singapore +11%
Thailand +11%

Note strong Japan and Taiwan growth sans direct/non-stop flights. Hello JL, CI, NH, BR - MEL is calling.

USA registered 0% inbound growth and Canada registered 8%. I wonder what the outbound to the USA would have been - huge I'm guessing.

User currently offlinetayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 24821 times:

Just on another note - wouldn't it be nice if BITRE put a ruling out so that all airports would be required to report consistently & mandate they need to publish their figures in a uniform manner on their websites - i.e a specific date each month with Month on Month, Calendar year to date and Financial year to date figures.

User currently offlinefuffla From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 24753 times:

Does anyone have a timeframe on the expansion of T2 (or any Domestic terminals for that matter) at Sydney Airport? Let me tell you, it is getting harder and harder to find space to park aircraft these days.
There was talk at some point of extending T2 east and build a new finger where the current Menzies hanger and foxtrot bays are (F1-6 and F7-12), however I havn't heard much about that recently. However given the investment recently to make F4 and F5 jet capable, it doesn't seem like it will be happening anytime soon.
There was also talk of moving the GA area (Universal etc) on the opposite side of 07/25 between the chopper park and the long term carpark.

User currently offlinejetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 24433 times:


Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
User currently offlineTassieboy From Australia, joined Apr 2010, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 24348 times:

Quoting jetfuel (Reply 22):

Much better then when I saw photos of it! looks better finished!

User currently offlineAusA380 From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 24333 times:

Quoting jetfuel (Reply 22):

So we really don't know the new name/livery as the AFL plane is really livery neutral.

25 jetfuel : Its a stop gap until they finally sort out the new livery branding. Its not perfect but better than a white ghost plane
26 AusA380 : Agree
27 aussie747 : The expansion is in the master plan as is moving the cargo aprons onto the Northern side of Qantas Drive, witht he inertnational terminal expanding o
28 Aussie_ : Before a new pier is built at T2, I believe SACL will be soon extending the current (mainly) Virgin pier and adding an additional 4-5 gates.
29 Boof : Sadly I don't think that font is much of clue for us as DJ use it quite a bit for adverts, it pops up on the website all the time, including the NZ a
30 Airbusa322 : Interesting. I know Tiger are still talking to SACL about opening a base their in Q3 this year, Tony Davis, Dec Ryan and a couple of SQ chiefs were i
31 Ben175 : Came in on SQ215 SIN-PER last night and was very suprised to see MH's new 738 from BKI parked at the terminal! The 738 looks nice in real life with th
32 Post contains images EK413 : That will be most logical move to increase the space available for expansion of T2... I believe in the 2025 master plan projection the area you menti
33 747m8te : Actually LST was preparing for A321s back in 2009, JQ had been talking about having the A321 on reg scheds there, as opposed to adding additional fli
34 Post contains links jetfuel : Virgin Blue says the recent flooding could have a major impact on its profit result in the second half of this year. The airline has warned revenue co
35 TN486 : In the sort term yes, in the longer term, brilliant.
36 jetfuel : I agree. The days of relatively small airlines being able to exist in a sea of mammoth alliances and joint ventures is well gone. QF (oh my God there
37 jupiter2 : What are the dozen or so major issues that need to be urgently addressed ? I am always qurious to hear firstly, what is actually wrong at the carrier
38 kiwiandrew : Do you know for a fact that NZ did not discuss it with Virgin Blue beforehand ? or are you just making an assumption ?
39 jetfuel : Don't shoot the messenger. I simply provided a link and extract of a press article. NOT my words QF shareholders are going backwards at a rate of kno
40 kiwiandrew : My apologies , since it wasn't in quotes it looked as though it was your own comment rather than an extract from the linked article .[Edited 2011-01-
41 VirginFlyer : I believe if Virgin Blue had said "you guys might want to wait until next week after we announce some bad news", that would amount to insider trading
42 Post contains images JQflightie : all im going to say is, that if airlines were run by flight attendants everything would be better, we are the front line, we see what customers want
43 Airbusa322 : Put those big chiefs on Undercover boss Australia. The CEO of frontier airlines did it on the usa version and goes on the frontline once a month.
44 IndianicWorld : I am sure that a merger between the carriers might be a positive thing in the end, but an NZ takeover of DJ may not go down well, particularly after
45 jupiter2 : As I said, I'm open to listen to what most people have to say, unfortunately most of it is armchair c.e.o stuff, not saying you may not have credible
46 Ben175 : Anyone know when the DJ 332 services between PER and SYD will become bookable? I'm going to HNL in early July and would love to try their J product ou
47 aussieindc : Just a quick note to wish all my fellow Aussie A-nutters back home and abroad, a very happy Australia Day. May the skies be issue free. Cheers, Aussie
48 jetfuel : I hate to have to say it but it looks like another QF 744 has cooked yet another engine. QF2 Bangkok to Sydney has returned to BKK after losing an eng
49 thegeek : Bummer. You'd have to think the frequency of these sorts of incidents on QF is somewhat concerning. Although I'd still fly QF over JQ/DJ/TT any day.
50 747m8te : Same here I would fly QF anyday over any airline, its just a shame the media isn't more balanced and report issues that happen to other airlines...un
51 FlyboyOz : Me too...I'd still fly Qantas anytime!! Why? It has free inflight meals in the domestic flights, huge aircraft, professional crew and comfy seats. I s
52 AeroplaneFreak : Is there a plan of this extension anyway?
53 Post contains links 777ER : Jetstar group CEO Bruce Buchanan said that the company will also join Oneworld alliance, which will put it in the same team as Qantas, Cathay Pacific,
54 CXfirst : If anything, I think this will also speed up Virgin Blue's decision on an alliance as well! But anyways, as soon as DJ and JQ join an alliance, every
55 Post contains images EK413 : Thankyou very much... I asked the same question.... EK413
56 Airbusa322 : New Tiger route from SUNSHINE COAST-SYDNEY, daily from 28th March. Tiger will be the first carrier to have a morning sydney flight with the other two
57 jetfuel : The Government had just chartered a QF 744 to evacuate Australians in Cairo. Planned departure on Wednesday
58 Airbusa322 : is their 744 downtime at the moment, or will something be cancelled as a result of this?
59 jetfuel : With the A380 back on line there is a spare plane floating about most of the time, so no big issue for scheduling
60 Airvan00 : As the news reports refer to evacuation to either Frankfurt or London. The flight may be flown by one of the aircraft that sit on the ground all day
61 TruemanQLD : However, as mentioned in the 'evacuation flights from Cairo' thread, crews arent leaving the airport so need to be able to have enough hours to get t
62 EK413 : Aint it just wonderful to hear QF are always there to provide the Australian government assistance when a helping hand is needed... This just shows '
63 Kaiarahi : "QANTAS JUMBO FORCED TO RETURN TO FRANKFURT A Qantas 747 was forced to return to Frankfurt today, 6 hours after taking off. On arriving back in Frank
64 EK413 : This article makes no sense...? Pilots are not qualified to fly the B744??? EK413
65 jupiter2 : He's "trying" to be funny.......... RL
66 747m8te : LOL you beat me to it haha! yes the media doesn't report this because it sheds Qantas in a positive light....Qantas does many good things, but the me
67 EK413 : Lol... I should've known! Well its so true positive news ain't reported by the media... EK413
68 pugsley : I was just reading about the next lot of aircraft to be delivered to the QF group in 2011 and thought I would share it with you. "...a total of 28 new
69 Post contains links aussieindc : VA20 hit turbulence just north of Jakarta enroute HKT-MEL this morning. 4 crew and 4 pax injured. Surprised it continued onto MEL. Must not have been
70 AeroplaneFreak : A FedEx MD11 (N583FE) has just landed in Melbourne. We haven't had a MD11 for quite a while.
71 Post contains images jetfuel : I am in Cairns and there is a slow controlled panic about. Most flights south are booked out and the airport is going into cyclone shut down mode. The
72 Marara : QF have been chartered to operate the rescue service.... Hasn't been done out of the kindness of their hearts. Could just as easily have been strategi
73 jupiter2 : Oh yee of little faith !!!! QF are normally very good with these types of things with often the costs of the actual flight and fees being all that QF
74 EK413 : Marara, Hasn't been done out of the kindness of their hearts??? So I take it when Qantas operate charity flights for sick kids suffering from all form
75 Post contains links and images BNE : Interesting news from Strategic Airlines. International carrier Strategic Airlines said today it would reluctantly withdraw from operating Port Hedlan
76 ZuluAlpha : QF 97 BNE HKG has been delayed for 01Feb for approx 11hrs. It has been delayed so the 333 can be dirverted to ferry up to CNS then retrun with pax to
77 ditzyboy : I am sure it won't be the case, but never say never... South African Airways have fixed 2-3 Business seating in their 738s and guess who the manufact
78 Post contains images VH-BZF : They have the aircraft availability - no other Australian carrier has B747's (Ansett used to!), they have the expertise and the ability to move quick
79 Post contains links and images VH-BZF : ***Firstly my thoughts go out to my friends and those in FNQ who have just lived thorugh TC Yasi and her devastating path of destruction. Thankfully i
80 Post contains links AusA380 : ACCC provide final approval for Ethidad and Virgin Blue alliance for a 5 year period. http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index...phtml/itemId/971055/fromI
81 RyanairGuru : here here I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was for the Australian Defence Force: I'm pretty certain that I read somewhere that the Army is cu
82 Airbusa322 : The aircraft returned PEN-BNE, so did both legs have people onboard, or was one empty?
83 AJ : PEN-BNE was originally planned PEN-TSV, however TSV was closed. Both TSV-PEN and PEN-BNE had passengers on board.
84 smi0006 : Looks like the AI rumour/planning mill has started again with Air India is rumoured to have signed a ground handeling contract with Toll Dnata in Melb
85 DJ748 : Does anyone here know when Pacific Blue started charging for checked baggage? I just recently did a dummy booking for a return trip between BNE and PO
86 gemuser : Since at least Jan 2009. It's only on the cheaper fares, unless that has changed recently. Gemuser
87 AeroplaneFreak : I have herd from from a few reliable sources that AI are now planning to start flights to MEL in June/July.
88 DJ748 : That's Virgin Blue - I was asking specifically about Pacific Blue. V-Blue introduced the checked baggage fee back then, but Pac Blue continued to hol
89 KFlyer : Any updates re the ex EK 332s for DJ ?
90 ThunderB : as pb is international, it has kept the inclusive baggage rule
91 Post contains links Boof : According to the table on DJ's website here you had to purchase the fare prior to Dec 9 2010 to get free baggage with the cheap seats. Post December
92 DJ748 : Aaaaahhhhh.......so they make the change and let their pax dig around their website to find when the change happened.........Thanksfully there's peop
93 747m8te : Or book through Airlines PNG who codeshare on the DJ flight and get a larger luggage allowance...
94 Airbusa322 : The new DJ A332's are only getting new seat covers which is disappointing.. I was hoping for a new seats, something that would be consistent across th
95 Post contains images VH-BZF : Sorry!!!!! I couldn't help myself - I'm still LMAO over this. BZF
96 ditzyboy : If this is true, I'd like to do the 'told-you-so' dance to the people who doubted me when this was brought up. Does this mean 2-3-2 in J? At least th
97 ABpositive : My partner flew to MEL-BNE with QF recently. It was evening flight with "Dinner" as part of the service according to the Qantas website. On the way th
98 Post contains images 747m8te : Was it a Cityflyer flight? the wine is free on those....I usually get in 4 glasses on the MEL-BNE runs there complimentary What times were the flight
99 Post contains links Airbusa322 : Yes, I was told that RED is to be fitted where the EK box was. The RED on domestic will not be the same as VA, will be the same as VX which is a slim
100 Boof : No worries. I'm going to have a stab in the dark and I might be wrong but if you look at NZ's new style pricing across the Tasman they will offer a '
101 Westjet!Eh! : I heard that DJ A332s will fly between Perth and Sydney/Brisbane/Melbourne in April or July (don't remember when it is exactly). All DJ B737s will fly
102 CXfirst : It is true that DJ A332s will fly between Perth and Sydney/Melbourne (don't know about BNE), but the DJ 737's will still be flying into PER. No way 2
103 AeroplaneFreak : Yeah it will only be PER to SYD/MEL, but more SYD. So maybe double daily for SYD and daily for MEL?
104 pilotdude09 : What about KTA, BME, DRW and ADL from Perth, they also use 737's let alone BNE, SYD, MEL. Bali, Phuket are also flown with DJ aircraft. 737s and E-je
105 gemuser : The A332s don't have the ICE system installed. They have an older system, according to a number of UAE based members on this forum. So it's not a pro
106 aussieindc : Hi all, While I fully understand and am aware that everything is subject to change at any time, can any of you QF insiders assist me with the rego of
107 Post contains images ANstar : New uniforms will be worn from 23 FEB when the "reveal" takes place.
108 Ben175 : There were rumours of QF putting a spare 744 on PER-SIN (something like BNE/SYD-SIN-PER-SIN-BNE/SYD). Anyone have any news about this?
109 Post contains links tayser : latest version of nearmap on MEL T2: http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-37.668187,144.845574&z=18&t=k&nmd=20110120 getting quite busy there - app
110 jetfuel : 60 minutes tonight for the Qantas A380 accident special
111 Post contains links and images CXfirst : I saw this photo on the a.net homepage. Why doesn't it feature the kangaroo, which is so iconic to Qantas? View Large View MediumPhoto © Seth Jaworsk
112 CXfirst : Oh, what time of day is that taken. Almost every stand taken on the International Pier, yet only one plane on the DJ main pier! -CXfirst
113 smi0006 : I think gate 20 is currently being installed at the moment or was last week, gate 18 is currently used as a narrowbody stand off bay in peak morning
114 tayser : judging by the shadows - I'd say mid to late morning. 2x VA 77Ws planes at the gates means it was before 10:30am (VA15 - soon to be discontinued - de
115 Post contains links and images TN486 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Chris P Denton Memo: Alan Joyce - Ac needs a kangaroo on the tail, with a small package around its neck, and some "joey
116 EK413 : I asked the same question as to why no Roo on the freighter but never got a response... EK413
117 Zkpilot : Many airlines don't like having their freight divisions in the same livery. ESP when freight flying is somewhat more dangerous (hazmat/dangerous good
118 allrite : Does anyone know how the iPad trials for IFE on Jetstar are going? Wondering if there's a chance we'll see them on the Japan run next month.
119 Post contains images cpd : I tried my best. I tried to get it landing, but the plane took about 40 minutes to get from 41,025ft overhead Parkes, to already on the ground at Syd
120 Post contains images Boof : I am sorry Gemuser and you are correct, I was certain that the IFE was switched out of the A332's when the A345's were introduced but I am mistaken.
121 EK413 : Highly doubt this would be the reason's behind the decision to drop the famous Roo... A number of carriers share their identity with the Cargo arm fo
122 Quokka : I could understand the kangaroo being missing on the tail if the aircraft concerned were on a short-term lease, or for the reasons alluded to by Boof
123 eta unknown : I'm hearing rumours... and again only rumours... EVA is considering axing BNE.
124 DJ748 : Been going on for quite a while actually. They operate 2x or 3x weekly, depending on the time of year. Actually one of my favourite liveries flying h
125 cpd : True, it's been procured for what would seem to be longer-term use. So I can only guess the logo not being used is because it's under a different com
126 6thfreedom : Interesting to read that Jetstar is looking at investing into Mandala. I wonder if the timing is appropriate given all the other discussions around of
127 Post contains links BNE : From the Facebook page of Strategic Airlines, they just announced Gladstone, still looking for the story from the http://www.flystrategic.com.au/Media
128 aussie747 : I would say you are right on the money. Qantas pilots were recently in the news (something along the lines) for wanting to operate all Qantas group a
129 Post contains links Boof : Maybe another Navitaire meltdown with DJ happening right now.... http://www.theage.com.au/travel/trav...virgin-checkin-20110215-1auxw.html I hope not
130 IndianicWorld : Maybe BR should look at re-commencing MEL, in place of BNE. Given the competitive pressures from CI in BNE, and some solid gains in Taiwanese pax int
131 DJ748 : That would certainly be a good option, and if they could time the arrival into TPE right, it could make for some nice onward connections to their Eur
132 ZuluAlpha : Wow! they would have to really race through the cabin to deliver the catering to the pax!
133 ThunderB : strategic have chosen a really short sector to operate on. What does this flight tag on to? Or is it a stand alone?
134 Post contains links flyjetstar : Qantas is applying blow torch to Virgin Blue’s plans to snare some of the corporate market with a new business class product by introducing 747-400s
135 Post contains images cpd : Wow - tough competition. Good for us! Even if the B747-400 might be an older plane, with the new interiors in it, there isn't a whole lot to complain
136 Boof : Interesting, I wonder how the Y+ will be sold on the 744's?? Looks like this will be replacing the 767 service currently in the schedule. The other b
137 Post contains links ditzyboy : Premium will be sold as Y (as would the 14-seat C-zone Business cabin on Pacific configured aircraft). First will be sold as Business when 4 class air
138 Jackbr : Will the crew overnight in PER (return next day, continue onto SIN A333 etc) or operate it as a return flight?
139 cpd : Thanks for the clarification there. The newspaper article didn't give a whole lot of detail. Still, might be worth a try if things can be timed right
140 Jackbr : SYD-PER/PER-SYD regulars would be used to it as 743s (And the odd 744 substitute) was operating between Perth and the East Coast until 2008. There we
141 jetfuel : B747-400 aircraft will operate only six round trips per week SYD-PER
142 alangirvan : This would be interesting, since Jetstar Pacific has not been a brilliant example of spreading the Jetstar brand around Asia. I suppose it might invo
143 cpd : They've been gone for a long time! I used to know some of the F/E's that were on that route. When did those last happen - I can't remember seeing any
144 Jackbr : The 743 service stopped 3 years ago. Not that long. The 744 services (given they weren't daily and didn't operate from the domestic terminal) also se
145 DJ748 : There once was, and there will soon be again - the recently announced QF8, part of the DFW flights sees the return routing DFW-BNE-SYD, and the BNE-S
146 Post contains links allrite : Haha, exactly the same thing has happen to an iPad locked away in the storage room at my workplace in the last few days. I wonder if we share cleanin
147 JQflightie : so is this 744 SYD-PER 6 x a week in addition to the announcement made about MEL-PER having a 333 4 x a week... now we just need Airbus service from B
148 JQflightie : adding to this, the 763 is also up for a refirb, with the new Panasonic IFE and such, also the new 738's are going to be delivered to WA first and dep
149 DJ748 : Has already been happening, and more than what most people would like to think - have lost count how many times I've seen the A333 on approach into B
150 alangirvan : What will the catering be like on this short leg? The international passengers will already have had a breakfast before they arrived at BNE. There wa
151 ditzyboy : Two weekly BNE-DRW-BNE rotations on 333s were already planned from May this year.
152 DJ748 : The domestic passengers will definitely get breakfast - it's showing up on QF's website. If you book the entire QF8 flight (DFW-BNE-SYD), QF's websit
153 winglets747 : Jetstar has confirmed this. It was well over 6 months ago, though so it seems there have been other teething issues with the iPad's permanent introdu
154 9MMPD : I was wondering if Qantas will change VH-OQA's name from Nancy Bird-Walton to Bird-Walton or to something else given all the publicity of the QF32 inc
155 MYT321 : First post on the Aussie thread guys ( Poms allowed ?) I'm due to fly QF32 LHR-SIN-SYD in under three weeks time, booked specifically to get the 380.
156 AusA380 : Welcome (only if you don't discuss cricket!)
157 Post contains links Airvan00 : They have been consistant over the last couple of weeks and that looks to continue. As you say 31 has been 100% A380 and 32 every day except Wednesda
158 Post contains links and images jetfuel : Another new DJ scheme for the 2nd white ghost. Still looks tacky.
159 qfa787380 : Actually look slike the colours of the 748I rolled out a couple of days ago. I can't imagine this wears any resemblance to what the new scheme will b
160 Jackbr : The part of the decal with "Virgin Blue proudly sponsors..." is similar to that of VUY. Must be designed to sit nicely with the new livery.
161 IndianicWorld : DJ are really going all out to capatalise on their AFL 'win'. Must say that I can not stand AFL, so these moves do nothing for me, but its certainly m
162 TN486 : To coin a phrase "not a hope in hell", and if you read the QF press release on the namings of the A380 fleet, i am sure you would understand my "coin
163 pilotdude09 : Interesting, apparently there is a new 737 flying around with the Panasonic IFE, a mate flew KTA-PER on it the other day. One would hope with the 737
164 Post contains images TruemanQLD : Jetstar in Indonesian would make sense, with Jetstar already in Singapore and Vietnam (base wise, I know they fly elsewhere), Indonesia is almost lik
165 Post contains links SXI899 : Looks like the Qantas group is expanding its members fleets. Qantas itself to going to lease an additional 5 B738s, extend the leases on a few others,
166 JQflightie : Yes this is correct.. there is one flying about, many more to come. Can someone tell me where exactly QF is getting the F100's from?
167 MYT321 : No probs, Rugby League is my game, hoping to take in an NRL match while I'm in Sydney. Thanks, that's very encouraging. We spent weeks researching pr
168 VH-BZF : This from QF's press release - see....ask and you shall receive! (Sometimes!) * Brisbane-Perth - domestic wide-body A330-200 services will be introdu
169 pilotdude09 : Are the existing 738's going to be retrofitted over the next few years? or are we going 2 different domestic products? one would assume they will upg
170 alangirvan : I think Fokker Asset Management usually has a hand in placing Fokker 100s. Because it is Qantas, it is an order for 10 at one time, where if Network
171 Zkpilot : Most if not all will likely do the trip as a day return trip. However due crewing requirements it is possible that several of the crew may overnight
172 Airbusa322 : Two questions about crewing if anyone can help? 1. United SYD-MEL. Do crew operate the inbound International, then overnight, then the SYD-MEL return
173 QF744 : I just saw a Pacific Blue 738 land at SYD with the Fly Pacific Blue billboard gone. Had a tagline of 'Airline of Virgin Blue' where the phone number w
174 VH-BZF : To answer your first question, I know when UA used to operate the UA841/842 from LAX-AKL-MEL-AKL-LAX, that the crew rotation for this was sign-on in
175 Post contains links and images Boof : Do you mean this one: View Large View MediumPhoto © Tim Bowrey - Sydney Spotters While there is lots of speculation about the new name and the new b
176 Post contains images EK413 : He does have better taste... The special AFL schemes a definitely not complete... The NEW brand will be rolled out in coming months and this 'yuck' A
177 gemuser : You'd loose! Polynesian Blue is 51% owned by the government of Samoa, I'd think it unlikely that they would agree to the brand being folded into Virg
178 koruman : You might recall that under Gary Toomey the plan was for Ansett to rebrand as Australian Star while Air NZ would rebrand as Pacific Star. Well, I spen
179 jetfuel : Well it costs a fortune in royalties to SRB for starters. I just wish they would get on with it. People are sick of waiting - horrible hybrid color s
180 ThunderB : Well you will find out i guess on the 23rd Feb, and your minds will be all put to rest on the naming of Virgin WHO?
181 TN486 : Would QF have any positive legal opportunity to challenge the use of the word Star in the rebranded title "Australia Star"?
182 gemuser : They are also contractually locked in to paying those royalties until 2015, so don't expect it to go quickly. Gemuser
183 Westjet!Eh! : Alliance has lots of F100 in Brisbane. I know it's weird that there's an US Airways F100 in BNE. Maybe QF could hire Alliance mx to repair F100s.
184 DJMEL : V Australia starts flying SYD/AUH on Thursday - 3 Times a week (Tuesday, Thursdays and Saturdays with the return departing on Wednesdays, Friday and S
185 Post contains images JQflightie : TeamJetstar crew are endorsed on A320, A321, A332 MEL-DPS-MEL is a seperate sign on, this aircraft isnt the one that does the SYD-MEL shuttle, that i
186 thegeek : That's probably true for cabin crew, but for pilots it would require a 3rd man in the cockpit as SYD-PER-SYD is blocked at greater than 8 hours AIUI.
187 Airbusa322 : I was more referring to the 3 weekly JQ35 that goes SYD-MEL-DPS-MEL (then back to SYD or a SIN return). So JQ obviously have Asian crew based in BKK/
188 Post contains images IndianicWorld : I would like to see DJ rebrand as Virgin Pacifica They better do something quick to fix their PR, as things are definately going off the rails. A rela
189 EK413 : I wasn't aware of this... Thanks for the info... I still feel the remaining brands (if no government influences) will be absorbed under the one brand
190 TruemanQLD : I would be VERY surprised if this were true. I am sure they have a lower wage than Australian crews but I would be very surprised if it was a mere $3
191 brad330 : -Qantas have suspended their 2/4 weekly 737 (QF922/QF923) service to CNS and will resume it on 30th May using 737 on 1,5,6 and 763 on 7. -Also startin
192 ThunderB : A meltdown of a computer system is as dire as an catastrophic engine failure and 'media reported' tech issues... where is QF at present? still flying
193 Airbusa322 : Exactly, its nothing. Look at a carrier like Tiger who has had some horror publicity but is recording increases in passengers every month. Its nothin
194 Post contains images IndianicWorld : In the end some people have short memories it seems, while others dont. If you have these issues that delay an ENTIRE network regularly, expect a sho
195 smi0006 : I have a few friends who are crew for VA, most of them have picked up their new uniforms, I believe they are to wear them from Wednesday onwards as on
196 smi0006 : Correction! I just facebooked my mate Thursday is the day! He won't tell me much more as he signed some contract but apparently the new look is more e
197 ditzyboy : MEL-DPS-MEL is ops by the same crew. The SYD tag is a separate crew. There is a 3K/JQ base in SIN. JQ does not have a crew base in DPS.
198 Airbusa322 : Anyone have the whereabouts of VH-XFA? Apparently in hiding and not coming white.
199 jetfuel : DJ staff who know have signed a secrecy agreement
200 Post contains images IndianicWorld : This DJ announcement is definately one of the most anticipated for a while. So many rumours, for which the latest one is that the uniform is very simi
201 Airbusa322 : The rego titles on all the recent white aircraft are a silver colour if that helps explain anything.
202 Post contains images IndianicWorld : Not really TBH lol I guess we will just have to wait until tomorrow
203 Post contains links asuflyer05 : This thread has been locked. Please continue the thread by following this link: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/50738
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