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MSY Renovation Will Be Ready By 2013 Super Bowl  
User currently offlineapjung From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 116 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

http://www.nola.com/business/index.s...ew_orleans_airport_renovation.html

- All gates moved to Concourse C and the newly expanded Concourse D.
- Concourse B will only be used to handle selected Charter flights.
- Concourse A will be converted to airport offices.
- All rental car companies will move to a new on-site 4 story parking garage facility.
- TSA screening checkpoints currently scattered at 3 separate locations will be consolidated to a 11 station single checkpoint so passengers who actually use MSY to connect to other flights between C and D will not have to be rescreened.
- The proposed Concourse E has been scrapped.

All this will be completed and ready before Super Bowl XLVII in February 2013.


Andy P. Jung
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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

Quoting apjung (Thread starter):
- All gates moved to Concourse C and the newly expanded Concourse D.
- Concourse B will only be used to handle selected Charter flights.
- Concourse A will be converted to airport offices.

so PLEASE tell me the concourses will be renamed so that you don't have a B, C, D with no A..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

I think we'll see an airline layout like this if that's the plan...this would take care of all available gates except for one extra on D. Since WS is only seasonal and 4X weekly at that (assuming they stick around), some other airline like VX or TA could use that gate if/when they come to town. Still, there would not be a lot of room left for new carriers.


Concourse C:

AA (3)
FL (1)
F9 (1)
WN (5)
WS (1; seasonal)
US (3)

Concourse D:

DL (5)
B6 (1)
UA/AC (5)
*Open* (1)

I love the idea of a consolidated checkpoint and a connection hallway between C and D.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2):
Concourse C:

AA (3)
FL (1)
F9 (1)
WN (5)
WS (1; seasonal)
US (3)

Concourse D:

DL (5)
B6 (1)
UA/AC (5)
*Open* (1)

Why would US be on a different concourse that UA/AC.. I would think the Star Alliance partners would want to be together on the same concourse...



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2):
Concourse C:

AA (3)
FL (1)
F9 (1)
WN (5)
WS (1; seasonal)
US (3)

Couple of thoughts here:

(a) US Airways could make do with 2 gates, and maybe using a common-use gate as needed for the third. They have 12 daily departures out of MSY, with the only time being congestion is in the morning rush. Dropping to two gates might make sense here.

(b) American is in a similar boat as US Airways. 12 daily departures, but nothing that can't be done in two gates using the current schedule. As it stands, it looks like they only use their third gate in the morning for a RON (same as US Airways).

(c) The AirTran-Southwest merger could combine those operations. Either way, the combined carrier should have close to 50 flights/day out of MSY, which might mean needing 6-7 gates.

(d) The rumblings of a WestJet codeshare with someone (I've heard both AA and DL) would make it likely that one of those two would ground-handle them.

All told, I could see the following needs:

American - 2.5
US Airways - 2.5
Southwest - 6
Frontier - 1

Southwest would take 7 gates, American and US Airways 2 each, and Frontier/US Air/American split some common use gates as needed (should be 3 of them left over).

Over in D, Delta will likely need 5 gates (they have some rushes in the morning and lunchtime that need 5 gates). Same with ConUniHound - slightly less flights, but still 5 gates needed.

That leaves 2 gates there; one likely for JetBlue, one more common use for a total of 4 - enough to be able to handle a new entrant.


User currently offlinedonindc From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2):
Still, there would not be a lot of room left for new carriers.

It does seem like they are leaving no room for growth. The article implies they hope to attract more flights with the improvements but won't have the gate space. I suspect Concourse B could be the fall back plan. They could reopen it to general use if gate space becomes an issue in the short term and easily build a connector walkway between C and B behind the ticketing area which would allow continued use of the consolidated security check point. It would be a long walk from security to the B gates, but not as bad as some other large terminals.

[Edited 2011-01-23 10:56:33]

User currently offlinebrj From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2144 times:

Quoting apjung (Thread starter):

While I do like the idea of a central TSA checkoint, I don't quite understand how this is considered an expansion.
I know they are adding the gates to D on the rotunda, but given A is already closed and limiting to B to charter flights seems like a downsize to me.

Also, given the close proximity of C & D to each other, it seems that there would be some ramp congestion between the two of them, with all flights moved to these two concourses.


User currently offlinemsypi7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

AC will also require a gate on C. The days that WS operates assuming they stay around, their flights overlap.
It will make thing interesting when Intl charters arrive with the C gates heavily utilized as what is being planned.

US just moved to B from A con and now have to get ready for another move to C in about a year or so.

Seems to me the airport is trying to reduce cost by closing down 1/2 the airport.

MD


User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1859 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 4):
(a) US Airways could make do with 2 gates, and maybe using a common-use gate as needed for the third. They have 12 daily departures out of MSY, with the only time being congestion is in the morning rush. Dropping to two gates might make sense here.

(b) American is in a similar boat as US Airways. 12 daily departures, but nothing that can't be done in two gates using the current schedule. As it stands, it looks like they only use their third gate in the morning for a RON (same as US Airways).

(c) The AirTran-Southwest merger could combine those operations. Either way, the combined carrier should have close to 50 flights/day out of MSY, which might mean needing 6-7 gates.

(d) The rumblings of a WestJet codeshare with someone (I've heard both AA and DL) would make it likely that one of those two would ground-handle them.

All told, I could see the following needs:

American - 2.5
US Airways - 2.5
Southwest - 6
Frontier - 1

Southwest would take 7 gates, American and US Airways 2 each, and Frontier/US Air/American split some common use gates as needed (should be 3 of them left over).

Over in D, Delta will likely need 5 gates (they have some rushes in the morning and lunchtime that need 5 gates). Same with ConUniHound - slightly less flights, but still 5 gates needed.

That leaves 2 gates there; one likely for JetBlue, one more common use for a total of 4 - enough to be able to handle a new entrant.

Excellent analysis. I agree with everything you said.   

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 3):
Why would US be on a different concourse that UA/AC.. I would think the Star Alliance partners would want to be together on the same concourse...

Ideally US should be next to UA and AC...I'm sure they'll figure out a way to make it happen.

Quoting msypi7185 (Reply 7):
AC will also require a gate on C.

AC will share a gate with UA like they do now. They don't need a customs gate on C since they have pre-clearance in YYZ.


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