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Next New Vanguard Cities?  
User currently offlineAeroGlobeAir7 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 586 posts, RR: 2
Posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

Vngd4Me,

Hey! I just had a quick question to ask about Vanguard.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy BTW-Great colors on the MD-80s!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Haven't seen one at KCI yet, but hopefully I'll get an excuse to haul my parents up to the airport soon! Anyways, to the point.
If Vanguard is planning any form of expansion sometime in the next two years, what airports will the expansions be to? Will we see any Florida destinations? I'm just curious, since Southwest and Delta Express seem to have hit the jackpot on nonstop MCI-Florida flights. Well, I better go, but thanks for any help you can give me!

Andrew
AeroGlobeAir7
BABY BOEINGS ALL THE WAY!!!

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User currently offlineAirT85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

I think you might see NJ continue to build up the west, possibly Seattle/ Salt Lake and maybe some eas coast service to Washington adn Boston....those might be good for biz travellers but i think MidEx already flies those routes.
Tony


User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

Any chance for CMH? MCI is badly needed from Columbus.

User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 943 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

Vanguard already flew to FL in their past with flights to TPA, RSW, MCO and MIA in 1996. It was in the days that they (nor the traveling public) knew from week to week where their schedules might take them on a regular (daily) basis.

User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1337 times:

I think AirT85 is right about Seattle... SEA doesn't have too many direct flights to that region with the only current one being the TWA flight to STL which will be no more soon. I don't know what the SEA-KCI market is like though, but Vanguard does offer some good and inexpensive connections out of KCI.

We'll see.


User currently offlineFlygga From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

Vanguard is adding Reno Nevada in August.

User currently offlineEarly Air From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 611 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1306 times:

will they be getting rid of the 737-200's?

Rgds,
Early Air


User currently offlineVngd4me From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

As MD80s arrive I'm sure more frequency will be added to some of the existing markets as well as new cities from MCI. Sorry, I really don't know which city will be next (after RNO) but keep watching & I'm sure there will be more soon enough. As of August 12th there will be a new flight to RNO, one addt'l frequency to MDW, LAS & DEN. Still haven't seen the Burgundy tail MD87. Hoping to see it soon.
-VNGD4ME


User currently offlineVngd4me From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1307 times:

737-200s are here for a while but seem to be slowly being phased out, now 10 737s and 3 MD80s. I doubt the 737s will be gone too soon, only the newest ones are left. The MD80s are a very nice plane though; business class, even more legroom in coach & business, and they're newer and more fuel efficient.

User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

Look for expansion to Florida down the road. We'll have an all-MD-80/87 fleet within a year or so hopefully. The 73's are work horses, but mx costs are high and they are becoming increasingly inefficient to operate. They do their job for now though.


Stephen in New Orleans(with NJ)


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

...SEA doesn't have too many direct flights to that region with the only current one being the TWA flight to STL which will be no more soon


I assume you mean TWA will be "no more soon." The flight will still be there under the American brand.



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1274 times:

You assume correctly.

User currently offlineVngd4me From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1294 times:

Here are a few shots of the new MD87:




Partially Glass Cockpit:


For a press release on the MD87 see:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010625/cgm033.html

Happy Flying!


User currently offlineAeroGlobeAir7 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 586 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

Awesome! I can't wait until Vanguard starts getting a larger fleet of aircraft! If things go well I look forward to seeing an increasingly large MD-80 fleet for my hometown airline!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy What color will the next MD-80 (after the burgandy aircraft) be? Or has that been decided yet? I think we're looking at an airline that's getting better and better just as the MONTH's go by, not years. GO VANGUARD!!!!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Andrew
AeroGlobeAir7
BABY BOEINGS ALL THE WAY!!!


User currently offlineVngd4me From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

The next one is said to be a "kelly green" color arriving in early August. Another MD82 I believe. Followed by another around Labor Day... I don't know yet about the color of that one.

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1267 times:

I was parked at LGA next to the first Vanguard MD-80 a couple of weeks ago - I'd call it indigo (or navy). I didn't look as good as the burgundy one pictured above.


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineVngd4me From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

Here are the other 2 currently flying.


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Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Aric Thalman




Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Aric Thalman



I think it is a great idea. Kudo's to the designer of the livery.


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

OK, maybe my memory isn't that good Big grin. I think it was the lighter blue pictured above. The lower one looks black, and I don't think it was that one.


An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineCritter592 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

Does Vanguard plan on getting any Boeing 717-200 aircraft in the near future... The 717 is the aircraft everyone will want to fly... I hear Vanguard MD80s are being leased. So eventually they will have to give them back. So will they order the 717 in its place..



User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

Vanguard will operate to FLL by DEC of this year.
Call it an "Educated informed guess"....



Cargo doesn't whine, moan, or complain
User currently offlineVngd4me From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (13 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

I wouldn't count on 717s in the very near future. The MD80s are much newer and cost effective than the 737s and are a good choice from MCI. I could see 717s at some point in the future but don't count on it too soon. The MD80s are a few years old but are in great shape and should last a while.

FLL wouldn't be a bad choice, not sure where your info comes from but we haven't heard that around here yet.


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (13 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1203 times:

What are they trying to do? Something like Spirit Airlines where each plane is painted different?

User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (13 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1188 times:


All the planes at Spirit are painted the same...except the 10th anniversary one.

Do you mean Western Pacific, Frontier (tails), Brannif???? The all have different color scheme.


User currently offlineVngd4me From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (13 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1175 times:

They all have the same style just different color tails. I personally (IMHO) think they look great. Different colors, unique style and still commonality to have the "brand recognition."

I think Spirit does have a few different style liveries & tails but I personally like this better because they are all the same livery but in different colors.


User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4514 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (13 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1172 times:

It's good to see someone do a varied-colors livery again. Braniff a/c were always a treat to see. Vngd4me, have you heard what other colors will be offered? I'd like to see navy blue; pine green; sky blue; bright scarlet; and gold.

Judging from Vanguard's route map, I'd say that IAH and IAD would be important next additions. Southwest only has two nonstops to HOU and a slew of one-stops; there's no low-fare competition at all to IAD. Also Boston. If Vanguard can tolerate LaGuardia's congestion, they could take Logan's.

More importantly, Vanguard should be aggressively chasing market share on the routes it already flies, and get its frequencies up to at least three or four flights a day on more routes. That would give them an important marketing advantage over MidEx, which only has two flights a day on most MCI routes.

How is Vanguard doing on routes where they compete with Southwest? WN has 13-15 daily flights to MDW, and 6 to LAS. Vanguard has only two to MDW and one to LAS.

Jim



Need a new airline paint scheme? Better call Saul! (Bass that is)
25 Vngd4me : Haven't heard the next colors after the green one. I heard a rumor of one being purple in the near future but we'll have to wait & see I guess. I woul
26 Co LITE : JAN Jackson Mississippi?
27 Post contains links and images AeroGlobeAir7 : I was going to say, Houston, and Boston both seemed like very real possibilities. All though I'm not an insider like Vngd4me, I do keep up with my hom
28 Srbmod : Vanguard's Mad Dogs are leased from Pegasus Leasing, who have also made and investment in the airline. So I think Vanguard may stick around for a whil
29 Vngd4me : From what I've heard it is an ex-Reno bird. From a posting on another board-Here ya go (maybe you guys can read this better than i can): 49780 1674 MD
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