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United/Continental Existing Fleet Upgrade Status #3  
User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 25
Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 33889 times:
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Continuation from here: United/Continental Existing Fleet Upgrade Status #2 (by SA7700 Dec 19 2010 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineZKNCL From New Zealand, joined Oct 2010, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 33959 times:

New Livery:

United
A319 (1/55-1.8%) 853
A320 (2/97-2,06%) 419, 465.
B744 (0/24-0%)
B752 (2/96-2,08%) 501, 522.
B763 (1/35-2.85%) 671.
B772 (8/52-7.7%) 209, 222-224 [3], 226, 773, 780-781 [2].
Total United (14/359-3.89%)

Continental*
B735 (8/32-24.24%) 27610, 17619, 19621-18622 [2], 24633, 16642, 16646, 16648.
B73G (0/36-0%)
B738 (32/126-23.8%) 24212, 14219-18220 [2], 34222-18223 [2], 14228, 12238, 17244, 73276, 79279, 37281, 73283, 78285, 33289-73291 [3], 77295, 87507- 76519 [13], 76528-76529 [2].
B739 (6/44-13.6%) 37413-39415 [3], 53442-36444 [3].
B752 (32/41-78.2%) 58101-33103 [3], 17105-17106 [2], 21108-12109 [2], 57111-17122 [12], 29124-12125 [2], 48127-17128 [2], 29130, 17133, 41135-19141 [7].
B753 (11/21-52.4%) 57851, 75853-57858 [6], 57862, 77865, 57870-77871 [2].
B762 (0/10-0%)
B764 (2/16-12.5%) 76055, 69059.
B772 (11/22-50%) 78001-78002 [2], 74007-009 [3], 79011-77012 [2], 57016, 37018-020 [3].
Total Continental (102/348-29.31%).

Express
ERJ-145 ExpressJet 100/200 series : (31/104) 24103, 34111, 17115, 13118, 11121, 13123, 12126, 21129, 13132-13133 [2], 12135-21144 [10], 17146, 14148-11150 [3], 27152, 21154-12157 [4], 12172, 11181.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet 500 series : (2/41) 13566, 15572.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet 900 series : (19/99) 14904, 14916, 14933, 14938-14939 [2], 14945, 13955-12957 [3], 14959-14960 [2], 12967, 13970, 13975, 13979-15980 [2], 17984-15985 [2], 13995
ERJ-145 Trans States (0/20)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (0/15)
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (0/38)
CRJ-700 GoJet (0/25)
CRJ-700 Mesa (0/20)
CRJ-200 ASA (0/16)
CRJ-200 SkyWest (0/65)
CRJ-700 SkyWest (0/70)
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/9)
Q200 CommutAir (1/16) 367PH
Q400 Colgan (9/24) 328NG, 332NG, 333NG, 336NG, 338NG-342NG [5]
Total Express (62/562-11.03%)

TOTAL (178/1269-14.03%)
Pie Chart of Livery Status that I created:
United Livery Status Pie Chart By ZKNCL


[Edited 2011-01-26 03:13:12]

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5814 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 33877 times:

Quoting RJ777 from the #2 thred:
I'm seriously wondering about the 747s at this rate.


In that same thread, though, the start date for the first 747 was listed as February.

Not sure why everyone is concerned.....


User currently offlineqfatwa From New Zealand, joined Jun 1999, 734 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 33803 times:

Bringing in the post from 777Man [closed thread]

Hi !

The following PM/UA aircraft are in for new paint :

AMA : N778UA
GLH : N854UA, N457UA, N420UA
VCV : N217UA, N503UA, N522UA

NEW LIVERY:
United
A319 (2/55-3.63%) 853-854 [2].
A320 (4/97-4.12%) 419-420 [2], 457, 465.
B744 (0/24-0%) - (SUGGESTED first 744 aircraft in : Feb 1st - A/C 8427).
B752 (3/96-3.12%) 501, 503, 522.
B763 (1/35-2.85%) 671.
B772 (10/52-19.23%) 209, 217, 222-224 [3], 226, 773, 778, 780-781 [2].
Total United (20/359-5.57%)

Continental*
B735 (8/32-24.24%) 27610, 17619, 19621-18622 [2], 24633, 16642, 16646, 16648.
B73G (0/36-0%)
B738 (32/126-23.8%) 24212, 14219-18220 [2], 34222-18223 [2], 14228, 12238, 17244, 73276, 79279, 37281, 73283, 78285, 33289-73291 [3], 77295, 87507- 76519 [13], 76528-76529 [2].
B739 (6/44-13.6%) 37413-39415 [3], 53442-36444 [3].
B752 (32/41-78.2%) 58101-33103 [3], 17105-17106 [2], 21108-12109 [2], 57111-17122 [12], 29124-12125 [2], 48127-17128 [2], 29130, 17133, 41135-19141 [7].
B753 (11/21-52.4%) 57851, 75853-57858 [6], 57862, 77865, 57870-77871 [2].
B762 (0/10-0%)
B764 (2/16-12.5%) 76055, 69059.
B772 (11/22-50%) 78001-78002 [2], 74007-009 [3], 79011-77012 [2], 57016, 37018-020 [3].
Total Continental (102/348-29.31%).

Express
ERJ-145 ExpressJet 100/200 series : (31/104) 24103, 34111, 17115, 13118, 11121, 13123, 12126, 21129, 13132-13133 [2], 12135-21144 [10], 17146, 14148-11150 [3], 27152, 21154-12157 [4], 12172, 11181.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet 500 series : (2/41) 13566, 15572.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet 900 series : (19/99) 14904, 14916, 14933, 14938-14939 [2], 14945, 13955-12957 [3], 14959-14960 [2], 12967, 13970, 13975, 13979-15980 [2], 17984-15985 [2], 13995
ERJ-145 Trans States (0/20)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (0/15)
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (0/38)
CRJ-700 GoJet (0/25)
CRJ-700 Mesa (0/20)
CRJ-200 ASA (0/16)
CRJ-200 SkyWest (0/65)
CRJ-700 SkyWest (0/70)
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/9)
Q200 CommutAir (1/16) 367PH
Q400 Colgan (9/24) 328NG, 332NG, 333NG, 336NG, 338NG-342NG [5]
Total Express (62/562-11.03%)

TOTAL (184/1269-14.49%)


User currently offlineAlgoz66 From UK - England, joined Oct 2010, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 33749 times:

Quoting ZKNCL (Reply 1):

Brilliant - easy to see snapshot of progress - thanks for that!


User currently offlinepiaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 33312 times:

Quoting ZKNCL (Reply 1):

Fantastic info and updates, really do enjoy and appreciate it. Please keep updating whenever there are any occurring
 

-Piaflyer


User currently offlinerichiemo From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 33242 times:

A tear will roll down my cheek when the last Battleship 777 gets painted. A sad day. Oh well.....

User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 33200 times:
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Quoting piaflyer (Reply 5):
Fantastic info and updates, really do enjoy and appreciate it. Please keep updating whenever there are any occurring

Ditto!

Well done and thanks for doing this.  


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21528 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 33189 times:

Quoting Algoz66 (Reply 4):
Brilliant - easy to see snapshot of progress - thanks for that!

Yes, great.

And it shows that new livery is soon to pass battleship. Good riddance. I hated the battleship livery. Will miss the blue livery though...



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User currently offlineZKNCL From New Zealand, joined Oct 2010, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 33141 times:

New Livery Pie Chart Update:



User currently offlinepiaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 33105 times:

I wish they had a live camera of the repainting in action. Or at least video of the plane being repainted in quicktime after its completed.

User currently offlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1844 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 33101 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 2):
Not sure why everyone is concerned.....

Because we just want to see how "committed" the new United is to the 747.


User currently offlinenycdave From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 33105 times:

I'm flying UA839 from LAX - SYD - MEL mid-february! Crossing my fingers I get the first repainted 744! How awesome would that be?  

User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1541 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 33087 times:

New Livery

United
A319 (2/55) 853-854 [2]
A320 (4/97) 419-420 [2], 457, 465
B744 (0/24)
B752 (3/96) 501, 503, 522
B763 (1/35) 671
B772 (10/52) 209, 217, 222-224 [3], 226, 773, 778, 780-781 [2]
Total United (20/359-5.57%)

Continental*
B735 (8/32)*** 27610, 17619, 19621-18622 [2], 24633, 16642, 16646, 16648
B73G (0/36)
B738 (32/130)** 24212, 14219-18220 [2], 34222-18223 [2], 14228, 12238, 17244, 73276, 79279, 37281, 73283, 78285, 33289-73291 [3], 77295, 87507- 76519 [13], 76528-76529 [2]
B739 (6/45)** 37413-39415 [3], 53442-444 [3]
B752 (32/41) 58101-33103 [3], 17105-17106 [2], 21108-12109 [2], 57111-17122 [12], 29124-12125 [2], 48127-17128 [2], 29130, 17133, 41135-19141 [7]
B753 (11/21) 57851, 75853-57858 [6], 57862, 77865, 57870-77871 [2]
B762 (0/10)
B764 (2/16) 76055, 69059
B772 (11/22) 78001-78002 [2], 74007-009 [3], 79011-77012 [2], 57016, 37018-020 [3]
Total Continental (102/353-28.9%)

Express
ERJ-145 ExpressJet 100/200 series (31/104) 24103, 34111, 17115, 13118, 11121, 13123, 12126, 21129, 13132-13133 [2], 12135-21144 [10], 17146, 14148-11150 [3], 27152, 21154-12157 [4], 12172, 11181
ERJ-145 ExpressJet 500 series (2/41) 13566, 15572
ERJ-145 ExpressJet 900 series (19/99) 14904, 14916, 14933, 14938-14939 [2], 14945, 13955-12957 [3], 14959-14960 [2], 12967, 13970, 13975, 13979-15980 [2], 17984-15985 [2], 13995
ExpressJet Total (52/238)
ERJ-145 Trans States (0/20)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (0/8)**
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (0/38)
CRJ-700 GoJet (0/25)
CRJ-700 Mesa (0/20)
CRJ-200 ASA (0/14)
CRJ-200 SkyWest (0/65)
CRJ-700 SkyWest (0/70)
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/9)
Q200 CommutAir (1/16) 367PH
Q400 Colgan (9/29)** 328NG, 332NG, 333NG, 336NG, 338NG-342NG [5]
Total Express (62/552-10.1%)

TOTAL (184/1264-14.56%)

*CO N numbers are in order of the last 3 digits
**Gives number of aircraft by end of 2011
***More 735s may be removed from service


New Winglets for United ETOPS and P.S. 752s

B752 (17/29-59%) 502, 505, 510, 512, 517, 518, 525, 532, 544, 546, 549, 554, 555, 589, 590, 595, 596

Gogo WiFi for United P.S. 752s

B752 (13/13-100%) 502, 505, 508, 510, 512, 517, 518, 525, 532, 554, 555, 557, 560

Row 44 WiFi

B752 593 (Also the aircraft with slimline leather seats, powerports, and an extra row of economy. Configuration: 24F/44W/118Y)


New First & Business Seats for United International Widebodies
Includes new Y class carpeting, bulkheads & cloth seat covers

B744 (24/24-100%) 104, 105, 107, 116-122, 127, 128, 171, 173-175, 177-182, 197, 199

B763 (21/21-100%) 641-644, 646-649, 651-663

B772* (8/46-17.4%) 782-785, 787, 788, 794, 797

TOTAL (53/91-58.2%)

* Includes Weber 5751 cloth seats with power ports in 3-3-3 configuration and new larger PTVs with AVOD and winged headrests. 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.


New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for Continental International Fleet
Not including GUM based aircraft.

B752 (34/41-83%)
B764 (0/12-0%)
B772 (22/22-100%)

TOTAL (56/75-75%)


LiveTV for Continental Domestic Fleet
Includes LiveTV for First and Economy for domestic fleet not including GUM based aircraft

B73G (32/32-100%)
B738 (91/119-76%)
B739 (42/44-95%)
B753 (0/21-0%)

TOTAL (165/216-76%)


Continental Micronesia Fleet

B764: 76063, 76064, 76065, 77066
B738: 25201, 13227, 14232, 14235, 32236, 14240, 27246, 14249
B73G: 13720, 27734, 14735, 24736

I tried to update the fleet as much as possible.
- UA is taking delivery of 2 738s late in the 1st quarter, 1 739ER in the 2nd quarter, and 1 738 and the 3rd quarter.
- They are selling more 735s. I'm not sure if they are selling planes in the active fleet or not.
- I'm not sure if the 764s are getting the new BusinessFirst seats anymore after this bullet was posted under 2010 accomplishments in the earning press release: "•The airlines continued to reconfigure their international aircraft with new lie-flat seats in first and business class. United has now reconfigured 53 of 91 aircraft (21 767s, eight 777s and 24 747s) in its international widebody fleet. Continental installed new BusinessFirst seats on its Boeing 777 and 757 aircraft, with 56 of 63 international aircraft (22 777s and 34 757s) now complete."
- Smisek said they already have over 200 aircraft painted so we are missing some aircraft.
- If you didn't read the earnings thread, decisions on E+ and F class are going to be made in the next 30-60 days.
- I'm having trouble keeping track of the regional fleet. There are supposed to be 79 CR2s in service by the end of the year but I don't know the breakdown between ASA and OO. RP is removing 7 ERJs from service this year but there are another 13 that are being removed from either AX or XE.

These are a couple of the places I get fleet info from.
United 2011 fleet plan:
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...g4NjJ8Q2hpbGRJRD0tMXxUeXBlPTM=&t=1
Republic's fleet (click financial reports and then fleet plan):
http://rjet.com/investorrelations.html



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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 33050 times:
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Thanks. I am suicidal over the tulip and the Peatagram livery, but I also can't way for ALL of UNITED to be uniform even if I must live with the "DEATHSTAR" globe.

I want my UNITED 747's to GROW IN NUMBERS!



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5814 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 32913 times:

Quoting FL787 (Reply 13):
Smisek said they already have over 200 aircraft painted so we are missing some aircraft.

I raised a single eyebrow when I read that number, too... my only thought is that perhaps he was including EXPRESS aircraft?

Quoting rj777 (Reply 11):
Because we just want to see how "committed" the new United is to the 747.

They've already answered that question, somewhat. You can't simply park 24 747s at a moment's notice. They'll be around a few more years.

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 8):
Good riddance. I hated the battleship livery.

It definitely spoke of "design by committee" mentality, which I suspect was prevalent at the time. Continental's isn't much better, whether they're my favorite carrier or not. BUT- I agree that a unified fleet will be far more... professional looking than the 319's and 752's they've got running around with no titles on the fuselage, orange stripes now hazy pink, etc etc.


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5190 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 32810 times:

Not to mention the mismatched radomes...thanks folks for the work on this thread.


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User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 32666 times:
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Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 15):
I agree that a unified fleet will be far more... professional looking than the 319's and 752's they've got running around with no titles on the fuselage, orange stripes now hazy pink, etc etc.

The sooner the better.

I know that I'm only a 1-K, but I'm willing to throw a ten-spot (or two   ) into the effort if it will help.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5814 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 32408 times:

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 17):
The sooner the better.

I know that I'm only a 1-K, but I'm willing to throw a ten-spot (or two   ) into the effort if it will help.

Lol. I'm Gold at CO, and I think I'd match your contribution!

That said, Jeff would probably find a way to charge me a 'making a contribution' fee.... but then he'd slip me a mickey in the first class drink that he charged me for, and I'd forget everything.


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 32372 times:
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Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 18):
That said, Jeff would probably find a way to charge me a 'making a contribution' fee.... but then he'd slip me a mickey in the first class drink that he charged me for, and I'd forget everything.

That's funny.

Btw, some CO flights out of IAH are now stocking Jim Beam as well as Jack Daniels.
The Jim Beam I remember from my college days was refined moonshine @100 proof.

Should they ever run low on jet fuel, they can pour those little bottles into the wings.   


User currently offlineevanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 32336 times:

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 19):
That's funny.

Btw, some CO flights out of IAH are now stocking Jim Beam as well as Jack Daniels.
The Jim Beam I remember from my college days was refined moonshine @100 proof.

Should they ever run low on jet fuel, they can pour those little bottles into the wings.

CO has always (at least the last 5 years) had Jack and Jim on the aircraft.


User currently offlineevanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 32326 times:

Saw the newly painted A-319 in DSM the other day. Lookin' good!

User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 32256 times:
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Quoting evanbu (Reply 20):
CO has always (at least the last 5 years) had Jack and Jim on the aircraft.

Had I known, I might be OnePass now rather than Mileage Plus.


User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 32163 times:
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Quoting ikramerica (Reply 8):

I think there once was a time when United's old grey "Battleship" livery was pretty sweet. For sure though, it did not age well. The blue and white looked great though. It should have been kept over CO's weak globe thing....


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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21528 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 32119 times:

Quoting AA777 (Reply 23):
I think there once was a time when United's old grey "Battleship" livery was pretty sweet. For sure though, it did not age well. The blue and white looked great though. It should have been kept over CO's weak globe thing....

I think the blue belly and a blue cheat line, and blue grey cheatline, along with a silver cheat line and then the CO livery on top would have looked great (seen a mockup like this) and been a true hybrid livery, rather than CO's livery with United slapped on.

Further, the interim paintscheme for CO's birds would keep the grey belly instead, and even though you'd have 2 liveries, there really wouldn't be any more customer confusion than with braniff. "ooh, we are flying a blue belly" or "looks like a grey belly"



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
25 tguman : Has there been a reason given for why the 73G and 762 at CO aren't being painted yet?
26 PhilInBRN : They probably aren't being painted yet due to the high utilization of the planes.
27 piaflyer : have there been any updates in the paint schedule? Piaflyer
28 FriendlySkies : Any updates on what's going on with those A320s? Did they ever make it out of paint?
29 Amwest2united : Yes - Currently 3 are out - N853UA, N419UA, N465UA Released tonight (if on schedule): - N854UA, N457UA Going in tonight (if on schedule): -N852UA, N4
30 piaflyer : Can you tell me where your getting this info? It's a great resource. Cheers, Piaflyer
31 qfatwa : Colgan Air have added N345NG & N3446NG. ADDED : [post 29] - Going in tonight (if on schedule): -N852UA, N459UA New Livery United A319 (3/55) 852-8
32 afbua1k2mm : Has any one seen pictures of these A320's in the new UA colors? The A319 pictures were nice but would like to see each new bird as they come out of t
33 drewboi3881 : Tell me about it!! Having worked for them formerly I really want to see it!
34 piaflyer : Interesting that majority of the aircraft being painted into the new CO/UA livery is in the "new blue" UA livery.
35 Post contains images piaflyer : Hey guys, UA's first 747 N127UA will be going in on Feb 4th for the CO paint scheme. Cheers, Piaflyer
36 pilotfox : Two more Express Jet aircraft to add to the list N27962 N15986
37 qfatwa : My reliable source adds 764 - 78060; 753 - 73860 & 78866. Pilotfox advised express jet 27962; 15986. Airliners.net photo adds expressjet 14937. Ne
38 Amwest2united : The above switch did happen, so 852UA and 459UA are both now in paint. Next Airbus switch (if on schedule): Feb. 1st/2nd - out N420UA, in N421UA Next
39 qfatwa : From Amwest2united update [reply 38], Add N521UA - Currently in paint New Livery [total exceeds 15%] United A319 (3/55) 852-854 [3] A320 (5/97) 419-42
40 timberwolf24 : Does anyone know when we might see other UA Express carriers going in for repainting?
41 Post contains images UnitedTristar : Doesn't Cogan operate as United Express out of IAD with Saab 340's? why are they not on the list? -m
42 DTWPurserBoy : Rumor of the Week--DL was looking to purchase all 16 767-400's. Anyone else heard anything? DL is busily installing lie-flat seats and new interiors o
43 Drerx7 : While stranger things have happened...I seriously doubt this for an innumerable amount of reasons.
44 Post contains links and images GreenArc : Well, it didn't take long for United to put their "brand" on the new paint: Saw one of the repainted A319's in DEN yesterday with a big blue overwing
45 UATulipfan : DL, WN, US, and other airlines going through livery changes have done that for years. Why does UA ALWAYS get singled out???? They're not going to have
46 Post contains links rj777 : Pretty close to what we're looking at for the future for the UA 747: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...inerphotos/photos/big/00013242.jpg
47 CODC10 : Pipe dream. CO will be installing new flat beds in the 767-400ER fleet from midyear and currently have no plans, contingency or otherwise, to reduce
48 kgaiflyer : Colgan operates out of all three DC airports. Out of BWI and DCA, they operate as Continental Connection and fly Q400s. Out of IAD the fly as *both*
49 Post contains images UnitedTristar : yes, so that's kinda my point, why are they not on the repaint list? -m
50 FL787 : The Colgan UAX flying is at-risk instead of a CPA. Because of that, the number of planes they fly for UAX may vary and they may or may not ever get p
51 United1 : IIRC 340s are on EAS/at risk routes and I don't think the fleet total includes those aircraft that are not covered under a capacity purchase agreemen
52 Post contains images UnitedTristar : Interesting, has some one done the same for the at risk CRJ flying? -m
53 FL787 : Yes. OO operates over 80 CR2s under the UAX banner total but only about 67 of them are under a CPA.
54 qfatwa : My reliable source adds 752 : N33132 & 753 : 56859. New Livery [total exceeds 15%] United A319 (3/55) 852-854 [3] A320 (5/97) 419-420 [2], 457, 45
55 pilotfox : You can Express Jet N12122 to the list.
56 CYatUK : Not exactly related with colour scheme but... Does anyone know anything about the UA 777 conversion? Are they still taking place? The number of conver
57 N766UA : Where are the photos?!
58 Post contains links qfatwa : http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unite...irlines/Airbus-A319-131/1854010/M/ Still waiting for completion of paint job: Tail numbers are noted when aircr
59 Amwest2united : Appears everything is on schedule, N421UA scheduled to Ferry to GLH this evening from DEN. N209UA is schedule to go into IPTE conversion the arround
60 CYatUK : Thanks. 10th March to 3rd April is quite quick compared to the time taken to convert the ones done already.
61 Post contains links and images N766UA : Well we've all seen that one. I guess a better question would be, if there's 5 A319/A320s and a 763 flying in the new colors, why aren't there more p
62 DC8FanJet : There is no 273UA. Either it is 223UA or 773UA, but there is no UA aircraft with 273UA registration.
63 N104UA : Is there any update on the cabin upgrades on the UA 777s? I have not seen anything in a thread about that in a while?
64 FriendlySkies : I'm curious why the "UNITED" titles are further back from the door on the A320 than the A319. The 737s and 757s are all in the same position relative
65 Amwest2united : Look at 4 post above yours - Reply 59 You are correct, N773UA is the aircraft, nose 2373 N421UA did swap out with N420UA last night.
66 Post contains links and images kgaiflyer : That actually goods very handsome. The wing gate design is clever.View Large View MediumPhoto © Andrew Hunt - AirTeamImages
67 aznmadsci : Those A320 in new UA colors me of a minature CO 762!
68 qfatwa : Both added: New Livery [total exceeds 15%] United A319 (3/55) 852-854 [3] A320 (6/97) 419-421 [3], 457, 459. 465 B744 (0/24) B752 (4/96) 501, 503, 52
69 AA737-823 : I agree- from the moment I saw the 319 picture, I thought, "Aha.... very nice." I see that CO is at 30%, while UA has yet to reach 7%. Seems like UA
70 Post contains images VirginFlyer : I suspect the process is a little less time consuming on the CO birds V/F
71 Post contains images kgaiflyer : While well-intentioned, the two of us seem 'verb' challenged. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
72 DC8FanJet : Average downtime for painting CO is 1-3 days. Only the name gets changed. The UA aircraft are down between 5-14 days, complete strip and repaint. The
73 whorsefield : Im sorry are you serious? Considering that they only started painting the 19s 20s and 752s at the beginning of january i think their doing pretty wel
74 AA737-823 : I'm as serious as a heart attack. Have you SEEN the narrowbodies they're running around? We've already established that they've been repainting NEW U
75 FriendlySkies : I won't pretend to know the first thing about aircraft scheduling, but it does surprise me that they aren't able to adjust the schedules to put the o
76 afbua1k2mm : Maybe someone can help -- At DEN this morning I had the opportunity to see my first UA B722 in the new livery. Due to the angle from inside the termin
77 qfatwa : My guess is N780UA - the "80" being the actual aircraft, which is noted in the list.
78 Post contains links and images je89_w : United got rid of their B722s a long time ago! You probably mean B772, and it's N780UA. View Large View MediumPhoto © Andreas Loenner
79 Post contains images ZKNCL : We can always dream! [Edited 2011-02-04 19:07:37]
80 Post contains images afbua1k2mm : Thanks a lot! Yes, that was the bird this morning @ DEN. As for the typo (B722) must be having one of those senior moments. However, I spent many a m
81 Post contains links and images je89_w : Hmmm View Large View MediumPhoto © Mark Bess
82 The777Man : In paint as of 4Feb AMA N673UA due back in service 8Feb GLH N852UA 7Feb N459UA 7Feb N421UA 10Feb VCV N211UA 8Feb N219UA 11Feb N506UA 12Feb N521UA 7Feb
83 AA737-823 : That's one in new UA colors, as I mentioned above.... I just don't get it. Classy looking bird already! Also in new UA colors, and looking nice. Also
84 bmibaby737 : They've all got to be done, it doesn't matter what livery they're in right now. The fact of the matter is, they're all now in an old livery. Fleet pl
85 Post contains images nycdave : So when's the first 744 going in, and which one is it? I'm guessing at this point there's no chance I'll be flying it next Sunday when I take off for
86 bmibaby737 : It's already been answered a few times in this thread...
87 Jetmatt777 : Just curious if ExpressJet is doing any of the painting at AAR in OKC. Yesterday I saw a new colors ERJ taxiing south from the AAR mx facility. At fir
88 UATulipfan : They have a schedule far in advance. I'd rather sacrifice the Battleship birds than to see the lovely new livery get painted over so quickly. There's
89 qfatwa : From Airways Magazine weekly update: N14652 retired. 02/05/2011 Continental 737-524 N14652 28913/LN 2985 ST Continental Purchasing 1/28/11 New Livery
90 FriendlySkies : Any confirmation that N127UA made it into paint yesterday?
91 qfatwa : from Flight Aware: 05/02/2011 B744/Q San Francisco Intl (KSFO) Shanghai Pudong Int'l (ZSPD / PVG) 13:44 PST 18:24 CST (+1) Scheduled 07/02/2011 B744
92 UATulipfan : UA's 744 were painted in PUS, not PVG. 8427 was the last 744 to get repainted into the new livery. Christ almighty what is wrong with them?[Edited 201
93 qfatwa : The Flight Aware data indicates that the aircraft is in operational service, not to do with being in for repaint. The question was as to whether N127
94 Sulley : Nothing.
95 DC8FanJet : 8427 now sked for paintshop on the 7th.
96 VirginFlyer : Given they seem to be intending to paint everything as quickly as they can, rather than wait till scheduled repaints come around, I imagine it doesn'
97 rj777 : So, given how long it took DL to paint a NW 747 into their livery, how long of a wait are we looking at here?
98 United787 : Why are CO's registration numbers so screwed up when compared to UA? Why don't they have NxxxCO for their tails. UA has such a clean system...
99 Amwest2united : United update B747-400 / B767-300 UAL has scheduled 15 Days to complete one 747, the 1st 747 is scheduled to fly into paint the night of Feb. 7th. and
100 timf : To start with, the letters I and O are not permitted in N-numbers, so you couldn't use CO as a suffix. The CO registration numbers are quite logical
101 A340Spotter : Short answer is that you can't use the letters I or O on a US registered aircraft. JSD
102 scorpy : Hopefully they adopt the UA system for future deliveries. It's much easier to record the aircraft you've flown just by looking at the flleet number y
103 TOMMY767 : Agreed. CO's registration system has always been quite obnoxious (if you ask me.) Kind of ridiculous that they have to write in small print below the
104 bgm : Until they are both on a SOC, they have to by law have that displayed. Same with Delta colors on NWA aircraft.
105 United787 : Thank you. That is understandable but if you can't use CO, they could have used an alternate like CL, CT or CA all would have made sense...but in the
106 UATulipfan : Not to mention that on this "new" livery the registration is at the bottom where you practically can't see it.
107 CALPSAFltSkeds : That's not really the case as UA uses different fleet numbers to indicate configurations. Kind of inside baseball for those in the know. UA 752 fleet
108 CALPSAFltSkeds : Funny, I can't see the fleet number on UA 777 in either battleship Grey or the blue paint job. It might be above the nose wheel doors, in small type.
109 UATulipfan : I'm talking about the registration. The registrations on UA a/c are above the windows on the same plane (no pun intended) as the "UNITED" or "UNITED
110 UATulipfan : It's still a huge waste of money repainting planes with brand new paint jobs, some of which are less than a year old. Even when DL went crazy paintin
111 AA737-823 : Registration size is federally regulated, and cannot be adjusted. I forget which CFR it's in.
112 Drerx7 : The planes have to be painted either way - now or later it does not matter. I think you are blowing smoke over a non-issue.
113 Amwest2united : Your very welcome, glad I can share. I hope everyone finds it helpful.
114 pilotfox : ERJ-145 ExpressJet N11127 is in the new paint now.
115 Amwest2united : United update B747-400 / B767-300 The 1st 747 entered into paint this evening. The 1st 767 is leaving paint in a few minutes for LAX, then heading to
116 Drerx7 : It would be fitting if they used this bird on the inaugural SFO-IAH-LIM run on Friday.
117 Post contains images UnitedTristar : I would suspect if its going to IAD its a three cabin, so I would think not, the LIM flight will be a two cabin bird -m
118 Post contains images UnitedTristar : wait, no 673 is a two cabin, so maybe! -m
119 The777Man : I couldn;t see this on Daily Aircraft Status; where is it being painted ? Thanks for the info ! The777Man
120 pilotfox : Express ERJ-145 ExpressJet 100/200 series (32/104) 24103, 34111, 17115, 13118, 11121-11123 [3], 11127, 12126, 21129, 13132-13133[2], 12135-21144 [10],
121 A340Spotter : You can add N15941 to the XJet aircraft, seen at IAH Saturday 5Feb11... JSD
122 qfatwa : The following should be confirmed: B747-400 / B767-300 The 1st 747 [N127UA] entered into paint this evening. The 1st 767 is leaving paint in a few min
123 United787 : Photos? Is this a 2 class craft? If so, it would have been in battleship grey. I wouldn't say it is a non-issue. The battleship grey aircraft look ab
124 Post contains images UnitedTristar : yea its a two cabin, if you see my response 117 and 118 you would see the answer to your question -m
125 Amwest2united : PMUA update B777-200 N788UA entered into paint tonight, Feb. 8th, N211UA will exit. B757-200 N504UA entered paint on Feb. 6th, N521UA exited on Feb 7t
126 Post contains images ZKNCL : Alright so the following Aircraft are scheduled to enter into paint: B777-200 N788UA entered into paint tonight, Feb. 8th, N211UA will exit. B757-200
127 pilotfox : Express Jet 13965 can be added.
128 pilotfox : Also can add 11194 to the list
129 qfatwa : Thanks pilotfox - something new each time you go to work! Added 11194, 13965. New Livery TOTAL (210/1265-16.6%) United A319 (4/55) 802, 852-854 [4] A3
130 Post contains images iahcsr : Hmmmm...... If I'm reading the Pie Chart correctly, CO and UA (battleship/blue) were each 50/50% before PMUA livery. So why is UA(battleship/blue) unc
131 United787 : I am not sure what you are asking but before the merger, UA had almost exactly 60% in the new blue and 40% in the battleship grey.
132 goldenjet707 : [img]http://www.airliners.net/photo/United-Airlines/Boeing-767-322-ER/1863671/L/[img] Have all B-767-322's been outfitted with the new 777 style bins
133 Drerx7 : Where are pics of the 763?
134 Post contains links United1 : No...only the F/J cabins on the international 763s have the updated bins. They are not exactly the 777s bins however.. http://www.heathtecna.com/imag
135 CALPSAFltSkeds : Are they the "Refresh", "Extended" or "Pivot" from the presentation?
136 Invicta : From the picture, it looks as thought the are the Extended. The handles are at the bottom as opposed to the top on the Pivots.
137 United1 : I don't know if they are refresh or extended but they are not pivot.
138 Post contains links and images VirginFlyer : To put airliners.net images up, you can type (photoid:1863671) but replace the brackets with greater than/less than signs. View Large View MediumPhot
139 goldenjet707 : Thanks VirginFlyer !!!!
140 LAXintl : A fleet technical update: Effective this week, all the United domestic 767-300s, have had their take-off weights upgraded to 407,000lbs, the same as t
141 aznmadsci : With part of the crossfleeting taking place, could these 763s be used for IAH-HNL and also Air Mike that use the 76H?
142 Amwest2united : AMA
143 CALPSAFltSkeds : I'm sure a harbinger of things to come. My guess is EWR-HNL-GUM-NRT to release some 764s for European service. Lose a few seats with the 763, but pro
144 aznmadsci : Can anyone verify that the 76H CO uses will be converted back to 764 and receive the new BF seats?
145 Post contains images LAXintl : Quite probable... even beyond HNL to GUM is something for a 2-class 772
146 CALPSAFltSkeds : I don't think anything has been announced, but the 764 fleet could be entirely converted to European 2 class config with lie flats if they were remov
147 LipeGIG : The 764 with 3-class would be perfect. If UA can manage the 763 with 3 class, i just don't see how the 764 couldn't be used that way. Some oil routes
148 goldenjet707 : Not for a while. Air Mike F/A's can't work PMUA aircraft until the UA and CO certificates are combined.
149 Amwest2united : Update N461UA will enter paint tonight, Feb. 10th, N421UA will exit
150 CODC10 : Will we ever get a photo of a 763 in the new UA colors?
151 CALPSAFltSkeds : It might be a tight squeeze for the front of the 764. According to Seat Guru, it looks like the 763ER has more room from Door 1 to Door 2, where the
152 FriendlySkies : UA's 763s have overwing exits, so there is pretty much the entire length of the fuselage between door 1 and 2.
153 Post contains links and images JBo : Photo of the first (and so far only) CommutAir Dash-8-200 with United titles: View Large View MediumPhoto © DJ Reed - OPShots Photo Team Not sure why
154 N104UA : I think it looks good and if you figure from a marketing point of view with the UNITED finishing right before the door it is easier to see for the cu
155 Amwest2united : PMUA paint update B757-200 N504UA entered paint last night, Feb. 11th, N506UA exited I posted above that N504UA entered last week, but in fact it was
156 bmacleod : YHZ has 2 UA routes, YHZ-IAD and YHZ-ORD and 1 CO route YHZ-EWR. Any idea of what fleet changes may occur for these routes?
157 MadameConcorde : New United Airlines CE0 Jeff Smisek should really take care of feeding his long haul passengers with proper food in quality and quantity rather than h
158 JBo : Indeed. However, the "Express" is still lopped off when the door is open. From a design point of view, they could have adapted the titles to two line
159 GreenArc : All the better since the pretense is that you are on United. If they could do it, Express would disappear anytime the gear is down. GreenArc
160 Antoniemey : Yes, but it's going to look like it says "United Press" One of the cornerstones of CO's branding for the last 17 years has been consistency. That inc
161 nycdave : So who's going to get the first shot of N127UA out of paint!?!
162 evanbu : Wow, your priorities are somewhat out of whack. No one ever expects a "good" meal on a flight. If you get a good meal, it's somewhat of a treat/surpr
163 Post contains images nycdave : Just want to add a comment as I write this from a p.s. 752... I really hope Smisek is serious about the importance of upgrading the UA interiors (and
164 Amwest2united : Are we not still waiting for the 1st shots of the B767-300, have seen nothing in over a week.
165 AA737-823 : Indeed- it took until yesterday to get pics of the 757-222 in new colors, and there are already a handful flying!
166 je89_w : Apparently, it's no longer priority screening on Airliners.net, so it might be a few more days to a week before you see a photo of the newly painted
167 rj777 : You know, when the 747-8I was rolled out this morning in its new red & orange livery, the VP mentioned something about how those colors represent
168 Flighty : Of course they are serious. But it will take 3-4 years to really make significant headway on that. First are the fleet decisions. What to put where.
169 United1 : Well If your in DEN it should be touching down in 30 minutes or so....inbound from HNL.
170 Amwest2united : PMUA update: Added N460UA, N461UA, N458UA, N220UA, N219UA, N788UA, N506UA, N529UA United A319 (4/55) 802, 852-854 [4] A320 (9/97) 419-421 [3], 457, 45
171 Post contains links Invicta : picture of the first 763 http://www.flickr.com/photos/flydolce/5449170522/in/pool-1489853@N25
172 UAL777UK : Vwry nice. Now wherea that 744 pic, I cannot wait for that.
173 Post contains images SurfandSnow : Wow, the PMUA fleet is really coming along. In a few months they have probably painted more planes in the CO livery than an entire year of gray to bl
174 DC8FanJet : Not due out of paint until 2/22. Has nothing to do with "new management". With a merger, the need to have a unified look is important for marketing t
175 LAXintl : You realize p.s. is meant for premium passengers - its F and C class product is probably one of the best in America for a transcon product. The Y cla
176 Post contains links and images AA737-823 : So you're trying to say that UA is justified in providing a dated and DIRTY product to Y passengers, simply because they're Y? Bit of an elitist, are
177 nycdave : Errr, I actually took quite a good look at the F and C cabins and even sat in a C seat for a minute, and I'm sorry, but those are just pathetic for a
178 LAXintl : Elitist, not at all. Pragmatic is what I would call it. As air travel has become a commoditized business and people are fishing for $99 transcon fare
179 goldenjet707 : However none of the airlines you mention can take you from JFK to LAX or SFO. The competition is AA and DL.
180 UAL777UK : You are talking about a premium domestic product here, you do realise that dont you? Why are you comparing it to the airlines you have listed, it mak
181 LAXintl : Its does need to be. SQ, CX, EK are meaningless in the domestic arena. Its a great domestic premium product for 2011. Look around what the rest of th
182 qfatwa : My reliable source has provided this update for Continental aircraft: B735: N14639 B739: N75410, N71411, N39418 B752: N13110 B753: N75861, N57868, N57
183 DC8FanJet : Saw Skywest CRJ N917SW yesterday in new colors.
184 Amwest2united : Saw CommutAir Dash-8-200 N369PH in new colors.
185 Post contains images MEL : Here is the Skywest CRJ overnighting up in YWG tonight.
186 Post contains links United787 : I didn't see anyone discuss this milestone. I would say this is a strong sign that UA will be keeping the 767-200s for a while. I know some A-Netters
187 AA737-823 : I don't think this so-called "milestone" means that at all. Painting "United" over the CO titles is dirt cheap, and CO wouldn't forgo that duty for a
188 TOMMY767 : The 762s I'm sure are not desert bound aircraft. All 10 were delivered in 2000 and 2001, have 777 interiors, PTVs in Y, and BF seats. If UA were smar
189 Post contains links UA933 : UA Economy Plus to come to all CO A/C in 2012. First step to harmonizing the on board product. Guess the next step will be a decision on 3 class or 4
190 piaflyer : Are there any updates to the fleet livery wise? Cheers, Piaflyer
191 qfatwa : My reliable source has provided this update for Continental aircraft: B772: N78003 B739: N38417 Additionally, 735 17640 has been sold. New Livery TOT
192 SurfandSnow : The more I see the new livery, the more I like it! I hated it at first, but it's really starting to grow on me! Almost the entire CO 757 fleet done a
193 Post contains images kgaiflyer : That's actually cute (if there is such an aviation term ) I can hardly wait to see these on Skywest's LAX-SAN shuttle.
194 Amwest2united : PMUA update: Airbus A319 N803UA entered into pain on 2/17, N802UA exited Airbus A320 N462UA scheduled to enter paint Feb. 20th, N461UA scheduled to ex
195 rj777 : So, I'm guessing N128UA will emerge either Monday or Tuesday?
196 qfatwa : Updates are rolling in! From Amwest2United: Airbus A319 - N803UA Airbus A320 - N462UA scheduled to enter paint Feb. 20th. Boeing 777 - N797UA schedule
197 ZKNCL : Does anyone know what's with the sudden retirement of the 735's? Are they all going? Or Are they selling them and pulling others out of storage? Or is
198 whorsefield : Does anyone know what the latest status is with the UA772s interior conversions? they seemed to have really slowed down the last couple of months!
199 kgaiflyer : The wingletted 735s fly every day of the week IAH-BWI, IAH-CLE, CLE-DEN, and CLE-BOS. Where did you hear they were all pulled out of service?
200 Amwest2united : This has been discussed earlier in this thread, but UA is painting several Widebodies this winter, The IPTE conversion kicks back in this next month.
201 CODC10 : Photo op! I'm sure these pics will circulate quickly. CO's 737-500s are all 'for sale', so if an opportunity to unload one comes along, the carrier w
202 Post contains links and images UnitedTristar : here is the first one in the data base View Large View MediumPhoto © Andrew Hunt - AirTeamImages -m
203 eraugrad02 : Very nice. I wonder if the new UA will install APB winglets on these birds to get added range and other benefits??? Desmond in ILM,
204 pilotfox : Express Jet 13978 is now in new paint
205 Victr : Just Was On JetPhotos First Pic Of 762 in new Paint
206 Amwest2united : N462UA did enter on 2/19-2/20, N461UA exited N797UA enters paint today, N788UA exits.
207 JBo : The problem with the livery as it is now, as I've just noticed, is that when the boarding door is open, the titles read "UNTITED PRESS" ... that's ju
208 KFitz : Look I realize you have made it a priority to spend the time during that domestic transcon flight to complain about how bad you think the back of PS
209 piaflyer : Bloody good reply Sir, couldn't have phrased it beter myself. Cheers, Piaflyer
210 Post contains links FriendlySkies : CO has been doing a good job with the title replacement at least somewhat matching the paint, or repainting the top of the aircraft in the case of mos
211 qfatwa : Added N507UA [752] & N13978 [Xjet]. Also photographs of Express aircraft N190WQ, N323NG, N34110, N16961 confirm relivery. [502UA & 505UA, plus
212 whorsefield : Could this just be a dirty aircraft because that doesnt look acceptable to me?
213 AA737-823 : That one is pretty bad. There are a couple of 737s flying around (one an -824, another a -524) that look even worse. But, overall, I agree that they'
214 ZKNCL : doubt it, with the 787's now arriving in 2012 instead of 2016 I can see the retirement being earlier for these birds
215 FriendlySkies : I wouldn't be so sure...CO likely planned expansion with those 787s, and while plans may change slightly I don't see them being altered that much. Th
216 Post contains links and images UnitedTristar : Looks like N69020 is painted now View Large View MediumPhoto © Yochai Mossi - AirTeamImages -m
217 Post contains links robo65 : [quote=FriendlySkies,reply=210] CO has been doing a good job with the title replacement at least somewhat matching the paint, or repainting the top of
218 robo65 : Continental update: The following aircraft are in for paint at this time. N73256 737-800 in AMA due out on 26FEB will be replaced by N24211 737-800 on
219 kgaiflyer : IIRC from the DL/NW livery threads, there was a problem with some NWA Airbus frames being painted carelessly enough that new white paint was peeling
220 UA933 : UA lerned that lesson already. In the beginning of the UA BLUE livery a lot of the planes showed bare metal ...
221 jetMatt777 : Don't think this is on the list, saw N14171 in new paint today at OKC.
222 robo65 : Will be replaced by N57864 on 26FEB.
223 Post contains links ZKNCL : Please continue discussion here: United/Continental Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 4 (by ZKNCL Feb 22 2011 in Civil Aviation) ZKNCL
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