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LH A380 To SFO Starting May 10 Daily  
User currently offlineLHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 563 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 18148 times:

LH will begin A380 service to SFO starting May 10, 2011.

LH 455 SFO-FRA 1420-1005
LH 454 FRA-SFO 935-1155

To be published in the GDS on Tuesday, but the press release just came out.

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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3212 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 18041 times:

Woo hoo - this is great news - can't wait to be on the new LH 454/455! Anything would be an improvement over LH's 744s, but the 380 is extra-sweet! First JFK and then SFO - is that the order of LH's 380 services to the US?


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User currently offlinecafedelmar From Spain, joined Jan 2011, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 18017 times:

Today LH operates 4 Airbus 380 as information provided by http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Lufthansa-active-a380.htm

NYC will be operated by a new plane? Or some change in actual LH 380 routes?

Anyone can post actual LH 380 services?


User currently offlinemnik101 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 17771 times:

That's awesome! Whats better is that its on my birthday!

User currently offlinefmartino From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 17622 times:

Now, I know that Lufthansa uses the G Boarding Area at SFO's International Terminal (as I learn about what Star Alliance is). I wonder if there's a chance at getting a good picture of it from the BART Station or would we need to go to a Sky Train station?

Also, time now to start planning my vacation in Frankfurt. Hopefully for Oktoberfest.


User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2694 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 17620 times:

Quoting cafedelmar (Reply 2):
NYC will be operated by a new plane?

D-AIME, MSN 061 and LH A 380 # 5 will be delivered soon.

The new destination SFO seems to be scheduled in accordance with the delivery of their 6th A 380 MSN 066.


User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 17389 times:

Quoting fmartino (Reply 4):
Now, I know that Lufthansa uses the G Boarding Area at SFO's International Terminal (as I learn about what Star Alliance is). I wonder if there's a chance at getting a good picture of it from the BART Station or would we need to go to a Sky Train station?

I don't know which gates in Concourse G are A-380 ready, but LH's 744 usually sits on the east side of the terminal (the side that faces the UA domestic terminal). I'm pretty sure you can't see that side from the BART station (you certainly can't see that side from the walkway from the parking garage, which is right under the BART station), but you should be able to see it easily enough from the AirTrain when traveling between G and F.

I have to admit to being surprised...I didn't think there was enough demand to justify the A380 on this flight...at least I know that there'll be a 4-engine option between SFO and Europe for the foreseeable future  



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User currently offlinepsa1011 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 17144 times:
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Quoting warden145 (Reply 6):
I have to admit to being surprised...I didn't think there was enough demand to justify the A380 on this flight...at least I know that there'll be a 4-engine option between SFO and Europe for the foreseeable future

Well there is the ~9PM LH SFO-MUC flight on some sort of A340 (unless that has disappeared)...


User currently offlinefmartino From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 17010 times:

Quoting warden145 (Reply 6):
I don't know which gates in Concourse G are A-380 ready, but LH's 744 usually sits on the east side of the terminal (the side that faces the UA domestic terminal). I'm pretty sure you can't see that side from the BART station (you certainly can't see that side from the walkway from the parking garage, which is right under the BART station), but you should be able to see it easily enough from the AirTrain when traveling between G and F.

I have to admit to being surprised...I didn't think there was enough demand to justify the A380 on this flight...at least I know that there'll be a 4-engine option between SFO and Europe for the foreseeable future

It's been awhile since I was last at the SFO BART station and can only remember seeing Singapore Airlines jets on that western side. I have to admit, I was a bit nervous about SFO getting A380 service of any kind after learning that Qantas intends to leave SFO - for DFW, I believe. And before that, Singapore Airlines' CEO had said that daily A380 service would begin SFO to Hong Kong about 6 A380 deliveries ago. See http://www.a380delivery.com and check out 'Videos' in the 'Upper Lounge."

Thanks for the advice about the Air Train (sorry, got Vancouver on the brain). Is there not a good POV from the Terminal 3 station platform itself?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24846 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 17008 times:

Good deal -

Interesting bit of trivia, SFO is one of the most if not the most (I have not seen full 2010 performance numbers) capacity constrained North American destinations for the LH/UA A++ joint-venture particularly during summer season but busy year-round in general. (lots of connection traffic flow over SFO to entire Western US/Hawaii).



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User currently offlinebioyuki From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 16901 times:

Woot! I guess the first A380 that I'll fly is on LH! And yes, SFO-FRA is always ridiculously packed on both LH and UA so I'm glad they're adding more capacity. Now if only LH had put in a proper J seat on the A380...


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User currently offlineramprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1522 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 16824 times:

I believe gate G101 has three jetways now. So I would imagine the A380 boarding from that gate.

User currently offlinebioyuki From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 16755 times:

Quoting fmartino (Reply 8):
It's been awhile since I was last at the SFO BART station and can only remember seeing Singapore Airlines jets on that western side. I have to admit, I was a bit nervous about SFO getting A380 service of any kind after learning that Qantas intends to leave SFO - for DFW, I believe. And before that, Singapore Airlines' CEO had said that daily A380 service would begin SFO to Hong Kong about 6 A380 deliveries ago. See http://www.a380delivery.com and check out 'Videos' in the 'Upper Lounge."

The east side of the G Concourse (not visible from the freeway/BART station/Airtran) is usually parked with UA/LH/CA 744s. The west side of the G Concourse (visible from the freeway/BART station/Airtran) is usually parked with EK/NZ/UA's 777 and 744s, sometimes SQ. The end of the Concourse (gates G99, G100, G101) is usually parked with NH/SQ's 77Ws in the morning and BR's 77W and LH's 346 in the evening.

I believe all of the G gates are A380 ready (someone fact check this) but my guess it that LH's A380 will be parked at the end of the concourse at G101 as it has the triple jetway. Also, when the A380 came to SFO back in the day, that's where it was parked.

You can see it here (where the NH 77W is):
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=sfo&ll...76&spn=0.005053,0.007918&t=k&hl=en

If so, it'll be visible from the freeway and BART station.

[Edited 2011-01-26 14:33:48]


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User currently offlinefmartino From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16426 times:

Quoting bioyuki (Reply 12):
I believe all of the G gates are a380 ready (someone fact check this) but my guess it that LH's a380 will be parked at the end of the concourse at G101 as it has the triple jetway. Also, when the a380 came to sfo back in the day, that's where it was parked.

If Wikipedia's entry for SFO is to be believed (and is correct), there are 6 A380 ready gates. And I think I can see 2 of them on the end of the A concourse, as well as 2 at the end of the G concourse. I can't tell where the other 2 are - assuming those 4 gates are for the A380.


User currently onlinelegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 16159 times:

Good news of the pending A380 news.

SFO this summer will have (3) daily flights to FRA.

UA 901- 744
UA 927- 777
LH 454 - A380



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User currently offlinebioyuki From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 16055 times:

Quoting legacyins (Reply 14):
SFO this summer will have (3) daily flights to FRA.

UA 901- 744
UA 927- 777
LH 454 - A380

So that makes the following available in terms of seats/day during the summer:

F - 28 seats
C - 190 seats
Y - 951 seats
Total - 1169 seats

Compared with the current schedule of 2x744s daily:

F - 28 seats
C - 132 seats
Y - 544 seats
Total - 704 seats

The summer upgrades represent a 66% increase in available seats/day.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19408 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 16003 times:



It starts on a Tuesday and I have to work, but A.net meet-up on Saturday to watch it depart/arrive?

To be honest, I had us pegged as a 748i destination for them.

Given the massive increase in capacity to FRA, do you think that this is some of response to LX's entry into the market?


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3212 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 15990 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):

Given the massive increase in capacity to FRA, do you think that this is some of response to LX's entry into the market?

If anything, it's in-spite of LX's entry into the market - LH/ LX would not cannibalize each other's market share.



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User currently onlinelegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 15940 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
Given the massive increase in capacity to FRA, do you think that this is some of response to LX's entry into the market?

Considering LH owns LX, they are making money either way.

Here is a press release.

http://atwonline.com/airports-routes...+AtwDailyNews+%28ATW+Daily+News%29

[Edited 2011-01-26 18:21:39]


John@SFO
User currently offlineindcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 15664 times:

LH or EK, who will fly an A380 to IAH?

User currently offlineSFOA380 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 15160 times:

Quoting mnik101 (Reply 3):
That's awesome! Whats better is that its on my birthday!

My Birthday as well! I'll be in the parking lot at the airport Marriott watching!!! Who will be next? SQ or EK?


User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 15117 times:

What with the SIA dragging their feet on deploying the A380 on SQ1/2 SFO-HKG, and the impending Qantas pullout, things had become not-looking-so-good for awhile there as far as an imminent A380 SFO deployment was concerned.

But now it's very pleasing to see Lufthansa - with one of the best route networks in the world - being the first carrier to deploy the King of the Skies to San Francisco.   


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7989 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14752 times:

I'm not surprised that LH is flying the A388 to SFO. It's REALLY hard to get a ticket in either direction on the route between SFO and FRA on LH now--and you see a huge number of German tourists in the San Francisco Bay Area.

User currently offlinebioyuki From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14730 times:

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 22):
I'm not surprised that LH is flying the A388 to SFO. It's REALLY hard to get a ticket in either direction on the route between SFO and FRA on LH now

Seriously. It's pretty much impossible to get upgraded on SFO-FRA these days, even as a 1K. Yields must be crazy either...I couldn't find a J ticket in February for under $6k on either UA/LH.



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 14100 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 17):
If anything, it's in-spite of LX's entry into the market - LH/ LX would not cannibalize each other's market share.

As LX is a 100% subsidiary of LH, LH does not care at all if the passengers fly LH or LX.


25 Goblin211 : it's about time another us airport had the a380 come. when i come to SFO on my birthday in March, i hope to see it for the first time.
26 netjetsintl : WOW. Lufthansa will send their A380 to San Fran before LAX??? what gives?? is it the hub thing or FRA-SFO is just a bigger market than FRA-LAX?
27 haddock0815 : If you want to do this: you better take this: The Oktoberfest takes place in Munich... but you could take a connection flight from FRA to MUC
28 Lufthansa411 : Mostly, the hub thing. While SFO is a destination in its own right, throngs of German tourists from smaller destinations on the west coast, Hawaii, A
29 LAXintl : In absolute terms SFO-FRA is definately a smaller market than LAX, however these hub-hub flights often carry 40%+ transfers rate at times on the SFO e
30 Post contains images LHUSA : I had incorrectly typed Tuesday as the publish date in the GDSs. It was actually published already today. Always fun seeing "388" on the reservation s
31 fmartino : Yes, I noticed. There's always the train from Frankfurt to Munich. Anything to get aboard the A380.
32 DocLightning : A346. Which makes me wonder (wish/hope) if it might not become a 748 at some point. And there are a shocking number of Germans (and other Europeans)
33 fmartino : Could be the exchange rate (1 euro = $1.37).
34 robffm2 : Sure. But they would also be less glamorous.
35 AirNZ : You're surely joking, right? There is absolutely more than enough demand, and I'd say you've never tried to fly from SFO to FRA.
36 warden145 : There's LH 459 (the A346 you mentioned), along with an LX A343, a VS A346, two BA 744's, an AF A343, and a UA 744 going to Europe from SFO, at the mo
37 PITrules : Another consideration is the taxiway clearance on the dual taxiways wrapping around the terminal complex. With an A-380 on one taxiway, there isn't e
38 Viscount724 : Many Europeans also spend 10 or 11 hours (or more) flying to places like Mauritius, Seychelles, the Maldives and Thailand and not much less to the Ca
39 blrsea : At one time, the LH SFO-FRA flight was also feeding quite a few passengers into their FRA-india flights. With the arrival of EK etc, I don't know how
40 Post contains images 747LUVR : YAAAAAAAWN. Where are they sending their 748's? hahaha, lol
41 ZRH : Yes, of course much closer. But the Canaries are totally different to Hawaii. Hawaii is much more exotic and has a warmer, tropical climate which the
42 Nimish : Anecdotally - plenty, almost no dip there! It's the longer routes like SQ that seem to have been severely impacted...
43 fortunerunnner : Definitely true as many folks in bay area including me have stopped flying SQ on SFO-India routes as it involves roundabout routing and horrible conn
44 Post contains images EPA001 : I did never realise that demand on this route would be that strong. With this new I will try to fly back from SFO when I visit the US in May of this
45 Post contains images MarcoPoloWorld : Me too - hopefully! SFO was indeed anticipated by Airbus to be the 20th ranked airport in the world in terms of projected A380 service. I think they
46 macsog6 : I fly this route two or three times a year on the present 747-400 and it always seems to be quite full. It offers very good connections for other cit
47 desediez : LH is expecting the delivery of their 8th A380 in May/11... Maybe there will be room for another destination.
48 aviatorcraig : Don't forget they have A380s now - they don't have any 748s yet. You may be lucky in the future.
49 robffm2 : That I wonder two. When they have 8 new A380 there should be room to start new destinations with B747 or A34x to some new places. Or at least increas
50 Post contains images airbazar : I'm European and you would have to pay me for me to chose the Canaries instead of Hawaii Even the Caribbean instead of Hawaii would be a tough choice
51 C172Akula : Hmm, this flight could be YYC's best chance to have an A380 come here (as a diversion). Not that I wish ill on any passengers or the aircraft, but it
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