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US Airlines Transatlantic Service From BOS  
User currently offlinezrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3099 posts, RR: 9
Posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6719 times:

Most US carriers have had transatlantic service from BOS. Can someone help fill in the gaps?

Pan Am: LHR

TWA: LHR, CDG, FCO, LIS, MXP

US: FRA

DL: LGW, AMS

NW: LGW, SNN, PIK, AMS, CPH (?)! CDG (?)

BN: LGW, CPH(?), others?

AA: LHR, LGW, CDG

UA: LHR


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User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4228 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6706 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):

NW: LGW, SNN, PIK, AMS, CPH (?)! CDG (?)

You can add FRA and GLA to that list.

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
DL: LGW, AMS

And soon to be LHR and CDG.


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1987 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6657 times:

Didn't Eastern also have TATL flights from BOS? Who is BN?


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User currently offlinefutureuscapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6593 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
AA: LHR, LGW, CDG

In the past decade, AA has also flown to MAN and SNN.


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1759 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6556 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
BN: LGW, CPH(?), others?

Not CPH or LGW. But Braniff did fly FRA, AMS, CDG and BRU using 747s.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 2):

Didn't Eastern also have TATL flights from BOS? Who is BN?

No - Eastern's only TATL route was a MIA-LGW. As in my comment above I'm assuming the thread starter was referring to Braniff.


User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1286 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6551 times:

I wasn't aware there was ever BOS-CPH service non-stop?

Perhaps I am wrong


User currently offlineAckerBacker From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6383 times:

Pan Am also flew BOS-LIS-FCO, JFK-BOS-SMA, BOS-TER-LIS, IAD/PHL-BOS-ORY, and PHL-BOS-FCO at one time or the other in the sixties and seventies. IIRC there was also a brief moment, possibly one summer in the mid-seventies, when PA went full bore out of Boston and offered a connecting bank of flights from various eastern points (BWI, PHL, IAD, DTW, possibly ORD as well) through BOS to FRA, ORY, FCO, and maybe AMS. This must have been around the time that they got kicked off BOS-LHR, either just before or just after. Can't remember anymore, dang it.

In any case, the Boston TATL hub didn't last long. With them few things ever did.


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1682 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6327 times:

Can confirm NW flew BOS-CDG with the DC-10-30; flew the route myself after I was denied boarding a full BOS-AMS...


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User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6232 times:

Quoting MH017 (Reply 7):
Can confirm NW flew BOS-CDG with the DC-10-30; flew the route myself after I was denied boarding a full BOS-AMS...

Are you sure it wasn't a DC10-40? Nw flew both the 30 and 40 out of BOS at one time.

Quoting apodino (Reply 1):
You can add FRA and GLA to that list.

You can also add HAM.


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8255 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6141 times:
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Delta will be flying twice daily to LHR this summer with 764's.

User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1071 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6015 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
AA: LHR, LGW, CDG

The BOS-CDG route started as BOS-ORY (Paris Orly), moving over to CDG after a few years in 1999.

Also, as futureuscapt said, AA has flown BOS-MAN and BOS-SNN too.



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User currently offlineEWRandMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5762 times:

Didn't TWA also have service to the Azores?

User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5536 times:

Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 10):
The BOS-CDG route started as BOS-ORY (Paris Orly), moving over to CDG after a few years in 1999.

I don't believe NW ever started BOS-ORY. NW got CDG when Airbus put pressure on The French authorities. NW was flyingBOS-CDG in 1993


User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1071 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5491 times:

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 12):
I don't believe NW ever started BOS-ORY. NW got CDG when Airbus put pressure on The French authorities. NW was flyingBOS-CDG in 1993

Don't know about NW; I was talking about AA's Boston-Paris route. They started BOS-ORY on 1st May 1996 and moved it to CDG on 1st October 1999.



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User currently offlinenomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5115 times:

Quoting EWRandMDW (Reply 11):
Didn't TWA also have service to the Azores?

Yes, TWA operated BOS SMA LIS for a period of years.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24658 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3858 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
Pan Am: LHR

Pan Am also operated BOS-ORY, BOS-FCO and BOS-SMA-LIS at one time. The Azores stop at Santa Maria was replaced with Terceira (TER) at some point, probably late '60s/early '70s. Some of the LIS flights continued to Nice, Casablanca or Rome.

Quoting zrs70 (Thread starter):
BN: LGW, CPH(?), others?

Braniff never served CPH. If memory correct their brief BOS-Europe service was limited to AMS, BRU, CDG, FRA.


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1682 posts, RR: 31
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

are you sure it wasn't a DC10-40 ?

Bob,

It was a DC-10-30; the only time I flew a -40 was on JAL  

[Edited 2011-01-27 20:27:35]


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User currently offlineAirportugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

Quoting nomadic (Reply 14):
Yes, TWA operated BOS SMA LIS for a period of years.
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 15):
The Azores stop at Santa Maria was replaced with Terceira (TER) at some point, probably late '60s/early '70s.

What do you suppose this was a result of?



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User currently offlineDETA737 From Portugal, joined Oct 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

Pan Am flew to Europe out of Logan up until the route swap with TWA in 1975. Their routes in the early 1970s were:

Flight 56 Boston-London-Amsterdam this flight daily and usually 747 in the summer at least.
Flight 146 Boston-Rome usually 3 times weekly
Flight 148 Boston-Lisbon-Casablanca 1 weekly, Boston-Lisbon-Nice 2 weekly
Flight 152 Boston-Santa Maria 2 weekly
Flight 158 Boston-Terceira-Lisbon-Casablanca 1 weekly

TWA on the other hand had a much longer presence flying transatlantic out of Boston
Flight 754 Boston-London was a daily flight and the 747 was used in the 1970s, it was later downgraded to a L-1011 in the late 1970s and continued onwards to Frankfurt in the late 1970s and early 1970s. Boston-London lasted until the route was sold to American in 1991.

Flight 810 Boston-Paris was a daily flight that had different routings. For instance by the early 1970s they flew Boston-Paris-Rome-Athens 3 times a week, Boston-Paris-Rome-Tel Aviv for the rest of the week. The Rome and Athens tags were dropped in the 1980s but I think Tel Aviv lasted until the late 1980s/early 1990s at least. TWA's last Boston-Paris route was in 1995 I believe (the same year they stopped flying BOS-LAX and BOS-IAD if my memory serves me correctly). Boston-Paris was flown with a 707 then a L-1011 after 1979 and a 767 at the time the route ended.

Flight 910 Boston-Santa Maria-Lisbon-Madrid-Rome-Athens I believe this flight was only weekly and it was with a 707.

After the route swap in 1975 Pan Am abandoned all routes to France, Portugal and Spain and TWA abandoned everything East of Tel Aviv. TWA for its part left Frankfurt up until 1978 or 1979 and would return that year with the BOS-LHR-FRA flight. During the oil crisis of 1979 the 707s were retired from transatlantic flying for TWA and they left the Azores as well as Ireland.


User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

Quoting MH017 (Reply 16):
Bob,

It was a DC-10-30; the only time I flew a -40 was on JAL

Then you were quite lucky as NW flew the DC10-40 for most of its years operating the hub out of BOS. The 30's came in the later 90's.


User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Quoting AckerBacker (Reply 6):
In any case, the Boston TATL hub didn't last long. With them few things ever did.

Seems to me that the NRT, DTW, MSP MEM hubs lasted quite a while.


User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4233 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

Quoting futureuscapt (Reply 3):
In the past decade, AA has also flown to MAN and SNN.

You are correct! I believe both were served with B757s too!



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