MUCFLYER From Germany, joined May 2004, 115 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9243 times:
next stop of the german cruiseline ship MS-Deutschland will be Papeete on the island of Tahiti in French-Polynesia.
Sounds good for our european ears...
Lufthansa flight 2572 will take place on Monday the 31th January out of Munich, to exchange some of the cruiseship passengers. This time with fuelstop and probably crew change (i am not sure yet) in Vancouver.
Arrival of the A340-600 in PPT will be 01Feb 0545Z or in local time 19:45H still on the same day, the 31th.
Transittime will be 3 hours.
Any spotters down there to make some pics for a.net?
stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2870 posts, RR: 12 Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8914 times:
for sure the crew will change, they can't do MUC-YVR-PPT in one shot. also the reason why YVR has been choosen as fuelstop as it is right on the route and a 340 destination anyway.
haynflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8579 times:
Related to this post, LH just flew what I understand is their longest sector ever at 6,991 nautical miles from MUC-HNL a few days ago to bring in 150 passengers for the cruise ship. I'm wondering if these same folks are going back to MUC from Papeete?
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6150 posts, RR: 25 Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8438 times:
Maybe not all the same passengers, but pretty much the same type of exchange.
A ship cruise site is advertising short and long cruises on the ship.
Tahiti-Sydney is the next leg
Sydney-Singapore
Singapore-Dubai
Singapore-Sharm El Sheikh
With air from Germany for each exchange point
The Cunard Lines ships also special voyages starting in January, with individual legs bookable for folks who cannot do the entire 107 day around the world trip, or the 108 day out and back from the UK around Africa to Australia and New Zealand to Japan to Hong Kong, Singapore and back to the UK through the Suez and Med.
I live right by YVR.. sunset on 31 Jan will be 17:06H.. sometimes if it's really clear, there will be enough residual light for a little while longer, but I think at 19:45H it is going to be a no-go. Also, we get a LH A340 in every day.. here's my favourite photo of one so far - http://www.flickr.com/photos/theduck...39098444/in/set-72157623081316719/ - yes, a 343, but sometimes we get 346's during summer.
Cyba From Liberia, joined Nov 2005, 198 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6827 times:
Quoting stylo777 (Reply 1): for sure the crew will change, they can't do MUC-YVR-PPT in one shot. also the reason why YVR has been choosen as fuelstop as it is right on the route and a 340 destination anyway.
YVR is also probably relatively cheaper. SFO would also have been an option, being a 346 destination (from MUC) and also right on the path.
lhrnue From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6150 times:
Quoting haynflyer (Reply 2): Related to this post, LH just flew what I understand is their longest sector ever at 6,991 nautical miles from MUC-HNL a few days ago to bring in 150 passengers for the cruise ship. I'm wondering if these same folks are going back to MUC from Papeete?
Can you imagen only 150 pax on an A340-600. Assuming the business class was fully ocuppied with 66 people, that leaves more than 3 seats per pax in he economy class.
gingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 854 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5695 times:
Quoting lhrnue (Reply 6): Can you imagen only 150 pax on an A340-600. Assuming the business class was fully ocuppied with 66 people, that leaves more than 3 seats per pax in he economy class.
I was on a 744 a few years back and the FAs mentioned there were less than 90 people onboard. This was also a regular scheduled VS service from LHR to BOS.
heathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 944 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4664 times:
Quoting Cyba (Reply 5): YVR is also probably relatively cheaper. SFO would also have been an option, being a 346 destination (from MUC) and also right on the path.
I fail to understand how both SFO and YVR can both be on the path from MUC to PAP.....
PPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8492 posts, RR: 43 Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4168 times:
Aside from great circle and "where the fuel is cheaper", what other considerations go into this? Some I can think of:
1. Visa issues.
2. Weather/Temperature (YVR is a bit cooler than SFO) so that's good in terms of performance.
3. YVR actually splits the flight into two roughly equal segments, which is kinda nice from a pax perspective (not that LH really cares about this, though it could have some extra labor cost implications by going longer).
4. As some of you guys already mentioned, being a LH city with A340 service in case something breaks is a good idea.
5. Airport fees
6. Extra cargo revenue?
"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
haynflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2458 times:
I don't think it's flying empty. I think it's taking passengers to Papeete who will board the ship and then bring back passengers from the ship who are flying back to MUC. Just a guess....
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