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Another Rare Flight, Lufthansa To Papeete-Tahiti  
User currently offlineMUCFLYER From Germany, joined May 2004, 116 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9796 times:

next stop of the german cruiseline ship MS-Deutschland will be Papeete on the island of Tahiti in French-Polynesia.
Sounds good for our european ears...
Lufthansa flight 2572 will take place on Monday the 31th January out of Munich, to exchange some of the cruiseship passengers. This time with fuelstop and probably crew change (i am not sure yet) in Vancouver.
Arrival of the A340-600 in PPT will be 01Feb 0545Z or in local time 19:45H still on the same day, the 31th.
Transittime will be 3 hours.
Any spotters down there to make some pics for a.net?

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User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2990 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9467 times:

for sure the crew will change, they can't do MUC-YVR-PPT in one shot. also the reason why YVR has been choosen as fuelstop as it is right on the route and a 340 destination anyway.

User currently offlinehaynflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9132 times:

Related to this post, LH just flew what I understand is their longest sector ever at 6,991 nautical miles from MUC-HNL a few days ago to bring in 150 passengers for the cruise ship. I'm wondering if these same folks are going back to MUC from Papeete?

There are pictires of the flight in HNL here (scroll down to 19 January 2011):
http://hnlrarebirds.blogspot.com/



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8991 times:

Maybe not all the same passengers, but pretty much the same type of exchange.

A ship cruise site is advertising short and long cruises on the ship.

Tahiti-Sydney is the next leg
Sydney-Singapore
Singapore-Dubai
Singapore-Sharm El Sheikh
With air from Germany for each exchange point

The Cunard Lines ships also special voyages starting in January, with individual legs bookable for folks who cannot do the entire 107 day around the world trip, or the 108 day out and back from the UK around Africa to Australia and New Zealand to Japan to Hong Kong, Singapore and back to the UK through the Suez and Med.


User currently offlinetheducks From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8574 times:

Quoting MUCFLYER (Thread starter):
Any spotters down there to make some pics for a.net?

I live right by YVR.. sunset on 31 Jan will be 17:06H.. sometimes if it's really clear, there will be enough residual light for a little while longer, but I think at 19:45H it is going to be a no-go. Also, we get a LH A340 in every day.. here's my favourite photo of one so far - http://www.flickr.com/photos/theduck...39098444/in/set-72157623081316719/ - yes, a 343, but sometimes we get 346's during summer.

[Edited 2011-01-28 22:31:20]

User currently offlineCyba From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7380 times:

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 1):
for sure the crew will change, they can't do MUC-YVR-PPT in one shot. also the reason why YVR has been choosen as fuelstop as it is right on the route and a 340 destination anyway.


YVR is also probably relatively cheaper. SFO would also have been an option, being a 346 destination (from MUC) and also right on the path.


User currently offlinelhrnue From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks ago) and read 6703 times:

Quoting haynflyer (Reply 2):
Related to this post, LH just flew what I understand is their longest sector ever at 6,991 nautical miles from MUC-HNL a few days ago to bring in 150 passengers for the cruise ship. I'm wondering if these same folks are going back to MUC from Papeete?

Can you imagen only 150 pax on an A340-600. Assuming the business class was fully ocuppied with 66 people, that leaves more than 3 seats per pax in he economy class.


User currently offlinegingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 894 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6248 times:

Quoting lhrnue (Reply 6):
Can you imagen only 150 pax on an A340-600. Assuming the business class was fully ocuppied with 66 people, that leaves more than 3 seats per pax in he economy class.

I was on a 744 a few years back and the FAs mentioned there were less than 90 people onboard. This was also a regular scheduled VS service from LHR to BOS.



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User currently offlineheathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

Quoting Cyba (Reply 5):
YVR is also probably relatively cheaper. SFO would also have been an option, being a 346 destination (from MUC) and also right on the path.

I fail to understand how both SFO and YVR can both be on the path from MUC to PAP.....


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6013 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

Quoting heathrow (Reply 8):
I fail to understand how both SFO and YVR can both be on the path from MUC to PAP.....

It's actually not that far off if you look at the great circle route between MUC and PPT.



User currently offlineCyba From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5084 times:

Quoting heathrow (Reply 8):
I fail to understand how both SFO and YVR can both be on the path from MUC to PAP.....

From great circle mapper:

MUC-PPT nonstop is 10065 miles
MUC-YVR-PPT is 10070 miles
MUC-SFO-PPT is 10067 miles

The difference between them is 3 miles!

muc-ppt


Check out this link also:
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=muc-ppt...c-sfo-ppt&MS=wls&MP=o&MC=yvr&DU=mi


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8969 posts, RR: 39
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

Aside from great circle and "where the fuel is cheaper", what other considerations go into this? Some I can think of:

1. Visa issues.
2. Weather/Temperature (YVR is a bit cooler than SFO) so that's good in terms of performance.
3. YVR actually splits the flight into two roughly equal segments, which is kinda nice from a pax perspective (not that LH really cares about this, though it could have some extra labor cost implications by going longer).
4. As some of you guys already mentioned, being a LH city with A340 service in case something breaks is a good idea.
5. Airport fees
6. Extra cargo revenue?



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User currently offlineabibus From Mexico, joined Dec 2010, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4492 times:

with an emprty 346 without pax and any cargo the bird should fly nonstop down there right?

User currently offlinehaynflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3011 times:

I don't think it's flying empty. I think it's taking passengers to Papeete who will board the ship and then bring back passengers from the ship who are flying back to MUC. Just a guess....


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User currently offlinedennys From France, joined May 2001, 894 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2997 times:

LH is still pushing the A340 to put this bird on its right place . All operaters should have done that !

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