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User currently offlineEIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1550 posts, RR: 1
Posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Can any of you recall reading any truly bizarre letters on a site which allows you to complain about airline service? For example: http://www.untied.com/ http://www.planetfeedback.com/ http://www.airtravelcomplaints.com/ http://www.ecomplaints.com/

This letter to Alaska Airlines has to be one of the most truly bizarre I've seen...


Firstly, how could his daughter have flown from "Orlando to Ft. Myers" on "Harbor Air?" The only Harbor Air I know of flew between Seattle and points in Puget Sound (and also briefly out of PDX). He is also wrong about Harbor Air being owned by Alaska, although they did codeshare on certain routes and he seemed to give a valid AS/Harbor Air codeshare flight number.

It sounds like the guy might have had a legit complaint against the former Harbor Air, but his letter might have a better chance of being taken seriously if he could could at least name a city pair that was not 2,500 miles outside of their route system!

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User currently offlineEIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1550 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

Alrighty---while we're on the subject, does anyone know what (if anything) is going on with Harbor Air? I've heard from some people that they are "gone," but I've also heard a few say that they are still trying to "reorganize"...does anyone have any more information??

BTW...don't think visiting harborair.com will help you  Big grin

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6544 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2298 times:

I'm not really sure about it but, I can see Harbor Air moving aircraft to Florida for the winter. I just can't imagine the routing. I thought all their aircraft were float equipped. Not a problem Orlando-Ft. Myers. There are numerous seaplane bases in both areas. It most likely wasn't MCO-RSW. I've got an open mind on this one. Maybe someone that wants to read back a few years in ACAR or WAFN can enlighten us. I could, but right now I just don't feel like digging through all those back issues. If no one else does, I will later in the week.

Steve  Confused

The day you stop learning is the day you should die.
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

I know that Florida Air (Flair) were using aircraft leased from, and operated by Harbor Airlines, and Orlando-Fort Myers may have been one of their destination.

Under this arrangement, flights would have had a Harbor Airlines flight code, as Florida Air did not have their own AOC.

These are the details of Florida Air (Flair) from this years JP.

FLAIR – Florida Air, Inc. Venice-Municipal, FL
220 East Airport Ave., Venice, FL 34285, USA  (941) 485-1600 Fax: (941) 485-1610 Email: info@floridaair.com SITA: n/a
F: 2000 n/a Head: Rudi Dekkers Web: www.floridaair.com
Ops scheduled flights with Ce.208B aircraft lsf/operated by HARBOR AIRLINES on behalf of FLAIR. Intends to apply for its own AOC & upgrade to BAe Jetstream 31.

 N208BB Cessna 208B Grand Caravan 208B0449 N1229Z 0095 0201 1 PWC PT6A-114A 3969 Y9 lsf / opb HAR / Cargo Pod
 N330AK Cessna 208B Grand Caravan 208B0569 0096 0201 1 PWC PT6A-114A 3969 Y9 lsf / opb HAR / Cargo Pod
 N522GM Cessna 208B Grand Caravan 208B0643 0097 0201 1 PWC PT6A-114A 3969 Y9 lsf / opb HAR / Cargo Pod

Notice that their website is no longer available.

A press release of Florida Air is at


So it does seem that this person does have a legitimate complaint against Harbor Airlines, and further, if that flight had an AS flight number, also a legitimate complaint with Alaska Airlines (although AS does not own Harbor Airlines.

User currently offlineEIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1550 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

Wow...very interesting, Aviatsiya.

I figured there had to be some sort of reasonable explanation for this complaint...

I guess the thing I find most surprising is that the flight in question was still operated as a codeshare with Alaska, even though it was in Florida! But, all AS/Harbor codeshares had 4500 series flight numbers, so that would seem to suggest it was indeed a codeshare.

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