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Scandinavian Aviation 2011 #1  
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3311 posts, RR: 3
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 23918 times:

Time for a new thread as we're far into 2011 already

BMI is returning to Norway with daily flight LHR-SVG and LHR-BGO from April 1. This mean BGO finally gets a flight to LHR

LHR-SVG BD537 319 08:55 11:50 1234567
SVG-LHR BD538 319 12:30 13:25 12345_7
SVG-LHR BD538 319 13:10 14:05 _____6_
(BMI vil fortsatt tilby SAS code-share på SAS sin SVG-LHR rute)

LHR-BGO BD551 319 14:05 16:55 12345_7
LHR-BGO BD551 319 14:25 17:15 _____6_
BGO-LHR BD552 319 17:30 18:20 12345_7
BGO-LHR BD552 319 17:50 18:40 _____6_
http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/spec....aspx?intcmp=newroutesflashjan2011

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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 23682 times:

Excellent news for SVG and BGO.... and brilliant to see a second airline operating LHR-SVG again. Just a pity it isn't British Airways to provide a One World feeder into LHR.

BGO getting an LHR service is also great... considering it is Norway's second city! Not sure of the business potential though as most of the oil related activity is in Stavanger.

But does this mean the LON-SVG market is a little saturated, now with the following routes:

LHR - SVG (SK)
LHR - SVG (BD)
LGW - SVG (DY)

What sort of equipment will be used on the SVG and BGO routes? ERJ or A319 maybe?



Next Flights: LGW-SVG (738-DY), SVG-LHR (319-BA), LHR-HKG (388-BA), HKG-SYD (333-CX), SYD-HKG (333-CX), HKG-LHR (388-BA)
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3311 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 23670 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 1):
What sort of equipment will be used on the SVG and BGO routes? ERJ or A319 maybe?

319, it also says so in the schedule I posted  


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3835 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 23602 times:

Norwegian are currently installing Wifi on their B 737 - 800's. First flight with Wifi will be on Wednesday 2 February 2011


The system is installed in Budapest and looks like a little bump on the fuselage. Wifi will be free this year if you fly on one of the aircraft with the system installed.


11 aircraft wilkl be equipped with the system before the summer season and 21 aircraft at years end and 40 aircraft during 2012.


SAS have plans of reinstalling it's system, but has not set a timeframe. They ended their Wifi service in 2007.


http://www.boarding.no/art.asp?id=44795


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 23514 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 3):
SAS have plans of reinstalling it's system, but has not set a timeframe.

Were'nt they installing that on their norwegian domestic planes this spring aswell?


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 997 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 23331 times:

Not sure if this has been discussed here, but Thai will have some minor changes to its OSL operation.

Bangkok – Oslo Service operates 5 times a week in Summer as usual. Service in Summer continues with Boeing 777-200ER operation, replacing A340-600 used in Summer 2010
TG954 BKK0055 – 0725OSL 777 x24
TG955 OSL1415 – 0615+1BKK 777 x24

Looks like there will be more seats offered in Y and less in J then (and no more F-class). The TG 777's are not my favorites - I would definitely prefer to be on the A346.



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3311 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 23312 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 5):
Bangkok – Oslo Service operates 5 times a week in Summer as usual. Service in Summer continues with Boeing 777-200ER operation, replacing A340-600 used in Summer 2010
TG954 BKK0055 – 0725OSL 777 x24
TG955 OSL1415 – 0615+1BKK 777 x24

Looks like there will be more seats offered in Y and less in J then (and no more F-class). The TG 777's are not my favorites - I would definitely prefer to be on the A346.

TG mainly used the 340-500 on OSL last summer, although the -600 often came as an occasional substitute


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 997 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 23281 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 6):
TG mainly used the 340-500 on OSL last summer, although the -600 often came as an occasional substitute

As true as that might be, this is the information that was posted on airlineroute.net and is based on the flight schedule data loaded in the airline GDS system on the day of posting.



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 997 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 23216 times:

Was wondering how things are with Norwegian's long-haul plans? They have been remarkably quiet lately. Personally I doubt seriously whether their plans are going to materialize in 2011 at all. The fact that the Dreamliner delivery date has been pushed further ahead and that SAS will start up OSL-EWR before DY makes things a little uncertain. Thai takes care of the BKK route for now. If there is room for another player, I'm sure SAS will take the opportunity to jump in first.


Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3311 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 23198 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 8):
Was wondering how things are with Norwegian's long-haul plans? They have been remarkably quiet lately. Personally I doubt seriously whether their plans are going to materialize in 2011 at all.

They plan to start when the ordered 787s (on lease from ILFC) arrives. Before the latest delay they was supposed to be delivered in the second half of 2012, but I guess they now have been further delayed. They don't plan to start IC operations untill these 787s arrive


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 997 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 23174 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 9):
They don't plan to start IC operations untill these 787s arrive

As far as I remember, they have earlier proclaimed to start up in summer/fall 2011 and use leased in equipment until the 787's can be delivered.

Look at this thread: Norwegian Gets 787 For Delivery Fall 2012 (by garynor Nov 8 2010 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=4976941&searchid=4979498&s=norwegian+long+haul#ID4979498

As late as 11 November 2010 this was brought in article:
http://e24.no/makro-og-politikk/norw...gaar-for-boeing-dreamliner/3895143

Norwegian has said that the company will start flights to Asia and the United States no later than summer 2011. The new Dreamliner aircraft to deliver not until 2012.

- We are working on with the possibility of initiation of long-distance routes in 2011. There is certainly potential for short leases in a transition phase, before the aircraft we have agreed today is available to us, "says Kjos in the press release. "

I myself have been very skeptical of such a temporary plan with short-leases - I'm not surprised if it does not materialize.



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3835 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 23171 times:

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 10):
As far as I remember, they have earlier proclaimed to start up in summer/fall 2011 and use leased in equipment until the 787's can be delivered.

Look at this thread: Norwegian Gets 787 For Delivery Fall 2012 (by garynor Nov 8 2010 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=4976941&searchid=4979498&s=norwegian+long+haul#ID4979498

As late as 11 November 2010 this was brought in article:
http://e24.no/makro-og-politikk/norw...gaar-for-boeing-dreamliner/3895143

Norwegian has said that the company will start flights to Asia and the United States no later than summer 2011. The new Dreamliner aircraft to deliver not until 2012.

- We are working on with the possibility of initiation of long-distance routes in 2011. There is certainly potential for short leases in a transition phase, before the aircraft we have agreed today is available to us, "says Kjos in the press release. "

I myself have been very skeptical of such a temporary plan with short-leases - I'm not surprised if it does not materialize.

Yes, now that the B787 is even further delayed, Norwegian may have come to the conclusion that hiring in Airbuses for an even longer time, might hurt their business model and will rather wait until they get their B787s. Proabably a wise decision.

[Edited 2011-02-04 06:37:49]

User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7109 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23137 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 6):
TG mainly used the 340-500 on OSL last summer, although the -600 often came as an occasional substitute

I'm sure I've seen a TG 744 at Oslo once last year?


User currently offlinearn777 From Sweden, joined Jul 2010, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23129 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 12):

TG sent the 744 several times last summer.


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3835 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 23053 times:

Quoting arn777 (Reply 13):
I'm sure I've seen a TG 744 at Oslo once last year?

I'm sure they used the 777 too alot


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3311 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 22954 times:

Quoting arn777 (Reply 13):
TG sent the 744 several times last summer.

Only once or twice AFAIK

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 14):
I'm sure they used the 777 too alot

Not in the summer, but they have used it during the winter programme. However from this year it will be a 777 the whole year


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3835 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 22949 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 15):
However from this year it will be a 777 the whole year

Too bad, the A340 is the most elegant aircraft in the world today


User currently offlineflyingfool From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 22637 times:

Attention to all MMX aviation enthusiasts

Qatar Airways Cargo will operate a charter into MMX tomorrow, Monday the 7th...
Planned is B777-200F A7-BFB with arrival at 18:45lt en departure at 20:45lt.
The aircraft is coming in from AMS and leaving to DAR

Mike


User currently offlinegarynor From Norway, joined Oct 2010, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 22374 times:

LH breaks traffic record from Norway: http://www.aftenposten.no/okonomi/article4022506.ece (in Norwegian)

Impressive numbers from LH regarding the entire Nordic market (3.1 mio pax per year). Norway is one of the fastest growing markets for LH. I also found it Interesting that Norway and the Nordic market was a strong contributor to deciding to put the A380 on routes to the USA this summer (particularly SFO, I presume). The market growth was most noticeable on the North American and Asian routes.


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 997 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 22112 times:

New passenger record in January for OSL:

January 2011: 1.393.057 (+9,6%) - International 698.776 (+9,5%) and Domestic 694.281 (+9,7%)

It is also 1.3% more than in January 2008, which held the previous passenger record for January. The number of international passengers increased by 60,803, or 9.5 %, while the increase in domestic passengers was 61,123, or 9.7%. The number of aircraft movements in January was 17,199. This is 1,050 or 6.5% more compared to the same month last year.

And the growth for ARN in January '11 is even more impressive:

Total: 1.282.489 (+15%) - International 972.854 (+16%) and Domestic 309.635 (+13%)

Where are the numbers for CPH?!?! ..They are always so slow. They used to provide the numbers on the 7th every month.

[Edited 2011-02-09 05:56:00]


Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 997 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 22092 times:

Was just checking the Arlanda website and saw by coincidence that a China Eastern flight MU 759 from Shanghai arrived 1.55pm (on Feb 9) - scheduled 2.30pm. Wasn't aware that MU flew into ARN. Or is this a diversion or perhaps a charter?

Regards,

EBG



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineZander From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 21911 times:

They don't on regular basis but it was a truly nice surprise this beautiful afternoon in Stockholm. I guess it will be a lot of photos of the bird in the coming days here on airliners.net...

The aircraft was chartered by Bertil Hult (the founder of EF Education) to celebrate his 70th anniversary in Shanghai!
What a party...I wouldn't mind being a guest on that plane!


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 997 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 21785 times:

CPH traffic figures for January 2011:

Total: 1.502.243 (+8.5%); International 1.319.313 (+8.3%); Domestic 182.930 (+10.3%)



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 21603 times:

DY is having a sale to promote their new ARN-GOT route starting on the 17th next week. They have 10000 tickets up for sale, costing 50SEK (oneway). Just booked two round trips 


Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3311 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 21374 times:

SAS is starting a twice weekly summer route between BGO and NCE between 27/6 to 6/8

Thursday
SK4655 14:45-17:30 Bergen (BGO)-Nice (NCE)
SK4656 10:50-13:45 Nice (NCE)-Bergen (BGO)

Sunday
SK4655 14:35-17:20 Bergen (BGO)-Nice (NCE)
SK4656 10:50-13:45 Nice (NCE)-Bergen (BGO)

At the same time, OSL-NCE is increased from daily from 9 weekly


25 affirmative : Now that Ryanair has closed their hub in MRS I'm really hoping for someone to pick it up. I know for a fact that SK considered it before Ryanair start
26 Post contains links NAS738 : http://www.vg.no/reise/artikkel.php?artid=10021569 Just found this article today. Sorry, only in norwegian, but it states that DYs longhaul plans does
27 Someone83 : In an interview today, Bjørn Kjos said they plan to start selling tickets for their IC routes towards the end of 2012, thus meaning a start up in 20
28 Someone83 : SAS is increasing SVG-TRD from the summer S11 schedule to 3x from 2x on weekdays The new schedule on weekdays: SK4480 06:15 -07:25 Stavanger (SVG) Tro
29 EBGflyer : + Judging from the article mentioned in reply 26, I suppose it depends on whether the 787-program will be hit by further delays. To postpone the start
30 Post contains images flyboy_se : Dont be surprised if you see QR in OSL this October
31 Someone83 : First they need to free up an aircraft that has the performance to due it as their 319LR (which they began ARN and CPH with) is suffering too much we
32 Navigator : I think Qatar will make an effort to come ahead of Emirates to Oslo now... I am a bit surprised that Emirates has not made any moves towards ARN and
33 B747forever : Maybe SK is fine with sending their pax on the Air China flight to PEK or route them via CPH.
34 Navigator : My personal thought is that SK has always been fine as long as the traffic goes via CPH. SK has never wanted any other traffic apart from obvious rou
35 B747forever : Yeah, and that is what hurts them. I wonder if AY flies more pax from Sweden to Asia than what SAS does via CPH on routes both serve.
36 Navigator : I think so. What hurts is that traffic rights to Norway, Denmark and Sweden are negotiated in a bunch and the result is that all agreed SAS-traffic g
37 nasco2 : I can not be more agree of this conclusions. From Oslo there goes now about one full 747 daily to China with salmon, and I think more then 100 000, p
38 arn777 : You have some very interresting points here Navigator. That OSL hasn't landes QR og EK yet is a mystery to me and i am quite sure that we see one of
39 Navigator : The only good thing with SAS not serving OSL nor ARN on longhaul except obvious routes to the US is that it leaves the field open to more interesting
40 arn777 : Being a Swede in Oslo I have followed what has been said and here both in the news and what is talked about in the aviation industry and there is no
41 CXfirst : Not only does SK's route structure through CPH make OSL and ARN secondary airports, but secondary airports in Sweden and Norway become tertiary. What
42 nasco2 : What I is interesting is to see how many percentage is normal for a country to use there flagcarrier / national airliners ?. How many of the ducts us
43 EBGflyer : I don't think you can use this measure for anything. The geography, demography and location of Norway is different from a country like the Netherland
44 Post contains links nasco2 : I never sad "all traffic" but a "normal number", maybe 30 - 50% of the IC traffic with go with an national flag carrier. I think this is very importa
45 Someone83 : OSL had 1 431 169 (+7,9%) passengers i February
46 Post contains images brissedk : Congrats to OSL for getting new 5x QR service to DOH. I'm sure it will be daily in a heartbeat, just like in ARN and CPH. Let the friendly Scandinavia
47 Post contains links brissedk : FlyNiki is doubling up on CPH-VIE http://www.check-in.dk/newselement.cfm?nNewsArticleID=44245 Never tried them, but I've always felt that it was a poo
48 Post contains links and images vadheim : Great to see Qatar Airways in Oslo from October KLM will also increase it's presence in the Norwegian market (effective from 26.03.11) - adding a 6th
49 Someone83 : Hasn't KLM flown 5x daily in the winter season and 6x daily in the summer seasons on OSL-AMS for several years already?
50 nasco2 : I have just follow SAS massive advertising campaign this days. Its just tremendously big. I absolutely all Internet newspapers I read, they are in the
51 Doona : Well, the papers carrying the adverts would certainly "win", no matter how successful the campaign turns out, no? I'll agree that capacity is not all
52 nasco2 : The government want to sell, bet there is no buyer. Therefore the government is a indirectly no-owner in the airliner in my view. But do you mean tha
53 Post contains images nasco2 : You have a point here, but at the moment there is no challenger in Sweden and Denmark at the same way as in Norway, therefore I think there is better
54 Post contains images Doona : Not at all. But that's the way it is right now, and it does not seem like it will change with the current owners. That's all I'm saying. And even whe
55 Mortyman : So SAS should give up Norway ? The only market where it has earned money and had a surpluss the last 15 years ? Bad plan !
56 Someone83 : Do you have data supporting this claim or is it just based on your observation that you often see a SAS commercial in the newspaper? What's the defin
57 Post contains links bmibaby737 : I see another MD87 has re-entered service this month after storage and a C-Check http://www.planespotters.net/Product...Douglas/MD-80/53336,OY-KHU-SAS
58 Someone83 : Yes and 2 737-883 have just come back from Moscovia and are currently at ARN awaiting maintenance before they can re-enter service with SAS
59 Post contains images debonair : Hi to you all... I wanna give you a short feedback. I just completed TorAir's Sweden's new London-Gatwick to Stockholm-Arlanda service, op. under the
60 Someone83 : BA World Cargo is ceasing their OSL-HKG route after only 5 weeks of operation.
61 EBGflyer : The HK Chinese already had enough of the salmon??
62 Someone83 : Tomorrow (Monday 28th) is the debut for the re-insated SK907 OSL-EWR. The A330-300 used on the first flight will be ferried in from CPH monday morning
63 B747forever : Does anyone know what the load is for tomorrows flight?
64 Mortyman : Full
65 CXfirst : Is this just a plain ferry or have they sold tickets on it as a normal CPH-OSL flight? -CXfirst
66 Someone83 : Ferry. The flight is leaving CPH 6ish in the morning so too early to get much passenger, and by ferry it empty they save money as they can fly it wit
67 KiwiRob : So you'd end up with a very strong Norwegian carrier and two very weak Danish and Swedish carriers, think again, with very little domestic feed you'd
68 bjorn14 : There are buyers just not at the price the governments want to sell them at. The gov'ts have said they want SK profitable first as to get a better pr
69 nasco2 : Aviations is measure in gdp or economic, behalf of my calculations all three Scandinavian counties is more then big enough to have one each. Did you
70 Doona : Creative spelling aside, I don't know that this is true. If you look at Swiss or Austrian, both are hubbed smack dab in the middle of Europe. SAS tod
71 Someone83 : That must be in your world........
72 Navigator : Such a carrier would exactly like Finnair is doing be able to connect both southern, western and central Europe with Asia through only one stop in it
73 Doona : I was talking about connecting PAX from one part of Europe to another part of Europe, which in itself is a large source of revenue. It isn't all abou
74 Post contains images nasco2 : I think Scandinavia is perfect situated geography as a hub to both US and Asia, and we should have many A380 !!, Anyway what can be don, I think mayb
75 Navigator : SAS has never ever made any serious attempts at asian routes from Stockholm. Everything has been done with a low ambition and opposition from the dan
76 Post contains links CXfirst : Seems that Lufthansa does not want SAS at the moment, with the reason being the tougher EU regulations as well as SK's massive debt. This comes direct
77 Arn777 : Both the market from ARN to Asia (BKK/PEK/NRT) and the willing to pay for direct service is definitely there so the reason why SAS hasn't succeded ha
78 Post contains links and images johnkrist : Ryanair returns to MMX Ryanair starts flights from MMX to Alicante and Malaga We had hopes for a new operator when we heard about the press conference
79 EBGflyer : Great with more options, but with a frequency respectively twice and once a week, it borders not being real routes as people without the flexibility
80 Post contains images johnkrist : Initially there will be 3 flights per week and in the future they expect 20 flights a week. Hopefully they will fly to London again, I miss that fligh
81 Post contains links nasco2 : The Norwegian government with Trond Giske announced to day that they make ready to sell there share in SAS ! http://e24.no/makro-og-politikk/giske-vil
82 Post contains links BrisseDK : CPH was voted Worlds 10th best airport by passengers worldwide according to Skytrax. http://www.worldairportawards.com/ I'm happy to see my hometown a
83 Someone83 : Continental/United is reducing down to daily flight EWR-OSL this summer, down from the previously planned 9 weekly flight. It was originally planned t
84 bjorn14 : Who wants to throw away good money for 20% of SK and will have no say in how the Swedes piss it away. I would need at least the Danes and Swedes shar
85 g2scandinavia : CO is cutting hard from it's Scandinavian destinations with OSL little affected by the cuts. The company will cut 12% in it's operations to Europe bec
86 Post contains links krsw757 : I was wondering if anyone had any insight on the up and coming AAL/CPH - RSW flights. Originally both flights were supposed to start up this June and
87 Mortyman : Are they still using the B757 or how they changed to bigger equipmnet ?
88 Post contains links prebennorholm : Sure this route is to 90+% based on holidays and contracts with tour operators. There are many thousand Danish tourists in FL, and it is likely to gr
89 Someone83 : 757-200 The shares won't be sold separate. This news are anyway hardly any news. The only different is that they have gove from saying that they most
90 bjorn14 : Any speculation what the three countries think they are worth?
91 nasco2 : There is some speculations in media of how and when SAS will be sold, but SAS is unsellable. I can try to explain way here, If LH meet the three gover
92 copenhagenboy : SAS CPH-Shanghai will now start marts 2012.
93 Post contains images nasco2 : Just inform everybody that I sending a letter directly to Trond Giske in the Norwegian government today, where I recommend him to open talks to the Sw
94 Post contains images Mortyman : Good luck with that But as I have understood , the Norwegian government atleast has a policy of not involving themselves in how companies are run.
95 EBGflyer : Perhaps I haven't reached the level of a 5-yo yet as I don't completely see how it necessarily would. Your argument is certainly not valid in any sit
96 Post contains images Someone83 : I'm obviously in the same boat as you. But one thing for sure, if the secretary even bother giving the letter to him, I'm sure he'll laugh himself to
97 nasco2 : No absolutely not, I call them this morning and they will read it, an comment it. I also think the major problem can be the danish government that, a
98 copenhagenboy : Sure they will answer you, it is the only polite thing to do. But they did not say, you wil have an answer from Mr Giske himself. I can imagine you wi
99 Doona : "Parts of SAS can be sold to Norwegian, and the rest can become a Danish and a Swedish national airline, or a Danish-Swedish venture, this can be dis
100 Post contains images johnkrist : As a municipal official I know that they will read it, think "Here's a smartass knowitall with no clue" and write a polite reply in the lines of "Tha
101 nasco2 : Yes of course, they say it all the time, we can take over the routes to SAS, in a case of bankruptcy. Norwegian have a traditions to take over stuff
102 Someone83 : Ryanair cuts heavily on ALC due to an argument with the airport meaning that TRF and AAR is loosing their route to ALC, and RYG and BLL will see signi
103 Someone83 : It is hopeless to have a meaningful discussion with you, when you clearly completely lack any understanding of the airline business
104 EBGflyer : I completely agree. Mr. Nasco2 seem to have lost touch with reality. I suggest posting this letter in the shredding machine instead of the mailbox.
105 copenhagenboy : "The point is that the Norwegian government have send strong signals the latest months that SAS is a company that we do not need anymore" I dont see t
106 B747forever : I was just looking at BA.com and it seems that they wont use the 767 on BA780/781 anymore starting in November. Anyone knowing why they wont use the 7
107 nasco2 : Giske sad yesterday on live televisions that one of the reasons we like to sell SAS it that this is a company we are not more depended on, we have ot
108 Post contains links brissedk : Interesting rumours from the "Routes Asia" conference about TG in Scandinavia: http://www.check-in.dk/newselement.cfm?nNewsArticleID=45665# This feeds
109 CXfirst : Maybe, just maybe, IF TG configure the A380 into a 2-class (or 3-class but with Y+) configuration. But, I don't think they will, the A380's will feat
110 g2scandinavia : Thai applied for a double daily 747 service on BKK/ARN/CPH already this winter, but did not go ahead with their planned winter schedule. The only Cap
111 brissedk : TG has been quite succesfull in securing holiday contracts for their BKK service, and I guess that would also be the primary basis for a HKT service.
112 tristarsteve : News to me. It is in our planning at present. Remeber that the fwd timetables in BA quite often show A319 on a lot of routes for initial bookings. It
113 B747forever : Okay, that sounds great. I was worried at first that we would lose the 767! Hopefully BA will use the 787 to ARN once they get it as a replacement fo
114 Post contains links EBGARN : Some more details about the narrow body fleet renewal: http://se.yhp.waymaker.net/sasgroup/release.asp?id=220811 "...a decision has been made to also
115 tristarsteve : No chance. The B787 will replace long haul B767s at first. The short haul B767 will have the interiors refurbished with new bins and stay with us for
116 Post contains links B735 : According to Danish travel media www.check-in.dk Gulf Air will start new route between Bahrain and Copenhagen. Route is schedule to start already 1st
117 SKAirbus : Just remember that Norway is the most profitable section of SAS so maybe other locations should be looked at first...
118 brissedk : Wauw, CPH will be crowded with flights to the Middle East. I guess those cartoons are all forgotten by now... I wonder if there is demand for all the
119 Post contains images Someone83 : Well at least WAS........hard to know anymore these days
120 Post contains links deltamartin : SK is dropping the seasonal CPH-DXB service. Source: http://www.boarding.no/art.asp?id=45642 (in norwegian) They are most likely dropping it due to EK
121 brissedk : SK would be squeezed between EK and DY on this route. Instead they increase CPH-IAD/ORD/NRT to daily service. Cheers, BJ
122 Someone83 : SAS will from September 3 begin a twice weekly route between Copenhagen and Palma De Mallorca. The plan is to increase this to 5x weekly during 2012 T
123 CamiloA380 : Don't know if it was discussed before....but it seems like Comefly will offer five charter flights on the Aalborg - Fort Myers route on a weekly basis
124 777way : Which destinations have SK served in Middle East previously?
125 EBGARN : An observation that turned into a question: I'm almost certain I saw an A340-500 at CPH early this afternoon, even if I realise it's quite an unlikely
126 Post contains links GOT : If you know a time when it arrived or departed you could try http://www.flightradar24.se and use the playback feature in the upper right corner (pres
127 Post contains links and images johnkrist : There was this IL-96 today, kind of fits the description: View Large View MediumPhoto © Matic Lomovsek No 340-500 at CPH today that I have heard of
128 777way : OK I know of most but am not sure about Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Abu Dhabi, can anyone confirm wether or not they served these places, how many citie
129 Mortyman : Thai Airways used a A340 500 for a long time between Bangkok and Oslo. So not as unusual as you might think.
130 EBGARN : This is exactly the one! Thanks! The winglet made me certain it was a modern plane, which meant a 340 in my mind. It never crossed my mind that it co
131 777way : Anyone?
132 CXfirst : Traveled plenty of times on it, quite saddening that they won't use that plane on the BKK-OSL route (especially as due to the low number of Y-seats I
133 Post contains links brissedk : Interesting discussion about the largest un-served transatlantic routes: 20 Busiest Unserved Trans-Atlantic City Pairs (by mah4546 Apr 21 2011 in Civi
134 Post contains links Someone83 : SAS has got one of their 737-800 back from lease and after undergoing maintenance at ARN, was it ferried to OSL today wearing a hybrid scheme and it's
135 tristarsteve : Thanks for that. I saw it taxy out this afternoon at ARN and just opened the thread to ask why it was in a strange colour scheme.
136 Post contains links deltamartin : The Swedish regional airline Skyways purchased the Gothenburg-based City Airline earlier today. Source: http://www.flygtorget.se/Aktuellt/Artikel/?Id=
137 EBGARN : I have a kind of strange question: Does the company Danfoss (HQ, in Denmark) have a corporate contract with any specific airline, or a "preferred airl
138 LN-KGL : Danfoss have their one Dassault Falcon 2000EX (OY-CLN)
139 EBGARN : I believe they have two corporate jets, both painted in a Batmobile-black style, very cool. Now, I don't think they will assign one of them for the t
140 Post contains links deltamartin : An MD-80 from SK heading from ARN to SDL had to return to ARN after a light in the cockpit indicated a fire in one of the engines. Source in Swedish:
141 madviking : Karachi DC8&DC10, Calcutta DC8, Tehran DC8, Kuwait DC8(also had a SAS Royal Hotel there in the 70s), Damascus DC8, Amman DC8, Delhi A340 Most of
142 777way : Thanks, no Saudi routes?
143 viasa : Interesting that there is nothing about the demise of Air Sweden in this thread. The AOC was withdrawn some days ago.
144 madviking : SK 965 served Jeddah on a milk run routing from CPH-->ATH-->JED-->DAR and then back with DC8s but I do recall MD80s also did a short stint t
145 SAS A340 : Norwegian and Finnair made red numbers in Q1, with Norwegian losing almost $1 million/ day in the last 90 days.
146 CXfirst : That's not good!! I was checking the schedule to CPH with Emirates in December '11/ Feb '12. The flight there was on the A330-200 as expected, but th
147 GOT : I thought it was mentioned back when the route was announced that it would get a 777 in early '12. Browsing the schedule reveals that it switches to
148 Someone83 : Didn't they also use the 767 til DEL for a while?
149 Someone83 : BMI Regional is increasing on both EDI-CPH and GLA-CPH. EDI-CPH will get an additional flight on Fridays and Sundays, while GLA-EDI will get a Saturda
150 Post contains links BrisseDK : OSL has released april trafic numbers: Impressive 47,4% compared to 2010. Link in Norwegian: http://www.osl.no/osl/omoss/_presse/...TALL_VED_OSL_I_APR
151 LN-KGL : BrisseDK, two more variables to take in to account are: 1. The usual 4-5% decline in passenger numbers during the Easter week at OSL. In 2011 the whol
152 madviking : Possible, but I don't recall. Carlzon introduced the 767 and opened up new services to Hong Kong and Osaka plus the quad dailies to EWR, but I don't
153 g2scandinavia : Aeroflot to increase weekly frequencies on Oslo-Moscow from 7 to 10 weekly. (winter 2011/12 schedule) SU211 SVO1305 – 1240 OSL Airbus 319 daily SU39
154 airlittoralguy : Hi everyone. Does anyone have the schedules for the former SAS flights to Hong Kong ? I am interested in flight numbers and time of departures from CP
155 B747forever : Does anyone know when CityAirline will be integrated into Skyways? I am planning to fly on one of their MD87s to BCN in August, but I am worried that
156 GOT : I read somewhere that the lease run out late this year and that they hadn't decided whether to extend them or not, think December was mentioned. It m
157 Someone83 : Traffic number for April CPH: 1.828.880 +39% (Ash cloud adjusted ~+10%) OSL: 1.651.418 +47% (Ash cloud adjusted ~+13%) ARN: 1.532.135 +49%
158 DLBOIFIN : I know, Finland is not Scandinavia, but just in case you are interested: HEL: 1.232.573 +58%
159 Someone83 : Norwegian has signed a LoI with Icelandair for the right to acquire three of the 787s Icelandair currently has on order, with planned deliveries in th
160 CXfirst : Excellent, but what is the latest date Kjos has been saying they'll start international flying. Guess it won't start until 2013. -CXfirst
161 Someone83 : SAS has announced some new routes from the winter season: OSL: Geneva: 1x weekly Palanga: 3x weekly ARN: Gdansk: 3x weekly
162 brissedk : Will be very exciting to follow this. Hopefully DY can do to Longhaul, what they have already done to shorthaul in Scandinavia. Cheers, BJ
163 Someone83 : SAS and Widerøe are shuffling some routes between them. From Octover 30th, SAS will take over CPH-TRD from WF, while WF take over CPH-KRS from SAS. C
164 Post contains links Someone83 : Thai is starting a seasonal 3x weekly CPH-HKT//HKT-BKK-CPH November 4th. The route will be flown with a 747-400 and be in addition to their daily BKK-
165 g2scandinavia : This is not entirely correct. If you read the article, the new service will only be offered outbound from CPH with aircraft change in BKK on returnin
166 B735 : The article clearly states that Thai will introduce new direct flights from Copenhagen to Phuket. Return flights via Bangkok. This will be in addition
167 CXfirst : I hope for your sake your right. I absolutely hate having to go through HKT when flying from PER to OSL with TG. -CXfirst
168 sas767 : I can clarify this for you - it is a new three time weekly 744 service from/to CPH in addition to the daily flight to BKK. It will be an evening depa
169 Post contains images g2scandinavia : Thank you sas76 This will also mean 10 weekly BKK-CPH i guess!
170 sas767 : Correct!
171 Someone83 : Guess the 3 addition BKK-CPH flights will be a dayflight, leaving BKK in the morning?
172 Post contains links and images johnkrist : Now it's official, Malmö Aviation orders 10 new Bombardier C-series aircraft 5 CS100 5 CS300 Can't wait, but I will miss the jumbolino, we don't get
173 Post contains links brissedk : RAM Royal Air Maroc will launch CMN-CPH in Nov/Dec RAM To Launch 6 New Routes In W11/12 (by LIPZ Jun 1 2011 in Civil Aviation) Nice addition to the CP
174 flynorth : Talking about 4-holers at MMX. On monday I say a big aircraft over Lund (a nearby town) with 4 engines flying low and looking like it was about to en
175 johnkrist : Sure it was not on the radar? Around lunch time RU/ABW710 landed. Air Bridge Cargo 744F, normally a sunday arrival.
176 Post contains images flynorth : Not on the radar. I've seen the Air Bridge 744 making the low sweeping right turn over Lund ( coming in from the south) several times before but it l
177 johnkrist : I might be wrong about it being a 744F, might have been a 742 which would explain why it didn't show up on radar
178 Post contains images flynorth : Yeah, that might be it. Which at the same time makes my observation even more embarrasing, confusing a 742 with an A380
179 Post contains links GOT : Your flight was ABW710, coming in from Maastricht on a 743. Passed over Lund 1051LT. Everything available through Swedavias excellent flight tracker,
180 Post contains links CXfirst : http://www.vg.no/reise/artikkel.php?artid=10094863 (In Norwegian) - Note the picture they use......journalism..... Seems that 20% of all OSL departure
181 Post contains links and images ManekS : SAS and Singapore Airlines to strengthen partnership Scandinavian Airlines and Singapore Airlines have signed a Letter of Intent to further develop a
182 EBGflyer : As discussed earlier SAS will resume service on Copenhagen – Shanghai Pu Dong route. Airbus A340-300 aircraft operates this route 5 times a week fro
183 flyingalex : Luckily, this was a misunderstanding and a false alarm. The AOC was never withdrawn, only the licence to carry passengers. And that only happened bec
184 viasa : You are right, but they operate only with the A320s.
185 Someone83 : The schedule for TGs new BKK-CPH/CPH-HKT service have now been relased. The 3 additional BKK-CPH will be a daylight flight, while the return for HKG w
186 Post contains links Someone83 : http://www.sasgroup.net/SASGROUP_CAR...gnContent/CareerPool_Vacancies.asp For the first time in ages, SAS are now hiring new pilots
187 Post contains links sas767 : From the 30th of October Norwegian plans to open a new route between Norway and Copenhagen. They will from this date fly 5 times weekly between Trondh
188 B747forever : Yes, it is nice to see DY expanding, but lets hope that they turn around that loss they made, and make a profit. BTW, when will the last 733 leave DY
189 Post contains links EBGARN : As you know we don't get that many heavy crosswind landings at ARN, but here's a video with all you can wish for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7rf
190 CXfirst : That is excellent news. Doesn't anybody else think these timings are odd? the HKT flight leaves 6h45 min after the BKK flight, but arrives only 4h5mi
191 EBGARN : A quick question: Has the relation between SAS and Air China gone sour after SK announced they will open CPH-PVG next year? I'm trying to book a trip
192 Someone83 : Estonian is opening a 5x weekly service between TLL and TRD from September 5th. While TLL-OSL increases from 8 to 10x weekly
193 bjorn14 : Dagens Naeringsliv has reported that Kjeller will get the maintainence base for the F35 JSF
194 Post contains links sas767 : Lufthansa will add one daily flight on the CPH-FRA route from the end of October - going from 4 times daily to 5 times daily. This will improve the co
195 ju068 : God morgon... I have statistics for the market between Belgrade and Scandinavia: All the numbers are for the period January-May 2011: - Copenhagen: 1.
196 Post contains links sas767 : Gulf Air yesterday inaugurated their new route to Copenhagen - operated by PrivatAir B737BBJ HB-IIQ. See pictures of the first flight and the route op
197 Post contains links sas767 : Copenhagen Airport has together with Oslo Airport been awarded the most efficient airport in Europe by Air Transport Research Society (ATRS). Nice to
198 LN-KGL : The next six years CPH will get this price by default. OSL will not be a threat during the construction of the new T2 (a very high share of busing can
199 johnkrist : IZ starts flights from MMX this monday. Probably due to the discussions regarding Israels demand on armed Israeli guards at counters, IZ has scheduled
200 SKAirbus : I was wondering... Is there overcapacity on the LON - SVG routes? Recently there were only two flights a day with SAS but then Norwegian started and n
201 Post contains links sas767 : A little bit more news from CPH - easyJet will increase the frequency of the Basel route to daily flights starting in January 2012: http://cphtravelle
202 photophil : I just have seen the announcement that KLM will go for a larger aircraft for the AMS-LPI route. The 80 seat Fokker70 will be swapped for a 100seat Emb
203 SKAirbus : Can a moderator shut this thread down as it has reached over 200 entries? I have set up a new one called Scandinavian Aviation 2011 #2? Thanks
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