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Why 767-400ER No Fbw?  
User currently offlinePandora From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

hi everybody. i'm back.

I was just wodernig why Boeing does not put Fly by wire technology into 737NG and 767-400s?

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User currently offlineDeltaAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1094 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 910 times:

The 767-400ER has almost the exact same cockpit as the 777 does with more features included, so it is FBW. The 737NG was designed to replace the existing 737's and since it was cheaper to train crews without having to retrain to use FBW it was attractive to many airlines including Delta and American, which combined have ordered around 300.

User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 895 times:

I don't think that the 767-400ER is FBW. Just because they have the same cockpit layout doesn't mean that they are both FBW.

As for why no FBW? It would cost a lot of money and take a lot of time to design and impliment a FBW system. So, they decided to keep costs down and go with the systems that they had been using for years.


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 884 times:

I am surprised to know the new 767-400 isn't fly-by-wire! I thought all new aircraft were designed to be. Seems a bit primitive. But to be honest, I've read that pilots prefer to know their control inputs are going directly to the flaps, aeilerons, etc. than through a computer. Kinda like having a 5-speed vs. automatic transmission in a car.  

User currently offlineCALPilot From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 998 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 874 times:

Hi guys: I'm a B757/767 pilot for Continental,
We'll be receiving our first B767-400 in July
2000 right after Delta, My training for the
-400 will be in May. But what I do know about
the aircraft is that my Type Rating is good
in the -400 with just a one day CBT computer
class, and one simulator ride. Boeing did not
add FBW in and effort to control cost of design
and additional training. If anyone needs ref.
the Boeing website and Aero Mag. issue 03.


User currently offlineJim From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 843 times:

Just my two cents worth: The engines (CF6-80CBF8) are FADEC (Full Authority Digital Engine Control) engines, so technically, they are FBW.

-jim


User currently offlinePandora From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 818 times:

It seems that Beoing have a weired airplane design philosphy. The 777 designed nearly 10 years ago have FBW, while 737NG in 1993 and 767-400in 1997 have n FBW. I heard some guy said it was because of commonolaity-but what has FBW has in common with traditional airliners? Nothing!!!!

I thnk FBW should be incoprated into new Boeing jets to make it more attrative.


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