LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13152 times:
As per Wiki, Qatar has 9 A319s with none on order. I think it will be ordering the CS300, but do not expect it be a very large order.
AABB777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12968 times:
There sure isn't much substance in
Quoting behramjee (Reply 3): The order is expected to be for 30 jets which includes options and they intend on ordering both the C110 and C300 versions.
apodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3640 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12105 times:
Key sentence in the article mentions the Paris air show. I know this plane doesn't have a lot of big orders on the book yet, but could some big announcements for this aircraft come at Paris? Time will tell.
ytz From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 1444 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11021 times:
Quoting flyyul (Thread starter): I wonder how much this is linked to the proposed "Montreal" service.
Why would it be linked? There's no issues with Qatar anyway. The government is probably happy that they are willing to start service in other Canadian cities other than Toronto for once. And for QR, they don't have to split the slots the country gets with another airline. That's a problem for EK/EY.
Our government doesn't play games like that. If they weren't willing to deal with EK over a critical support base in the middle of a war, what makes anybody think they'll play that game with QR over a few sales for Bombardier?
How so? The Canadian/Quebec governments are always happy to see new carriers/destinations at YUL rather than YYZ, and BBD is happy to get the order. Where's the "quo"?
turjo101 From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 60 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7664 times:
ahhh...so that's the price for getting slots in Canada. Maybe EK and EY should also "strongly consider" acquiring the C-Series in a bit do get more slots.
JoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5027 posts, RR: 29 Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7511 times:
It's not a sale until the contract is signed. Al Baker has a somewhat mercurial personality and is subject to change without notice. I'm cautiously optimistic but a lot can happen between now and june.
Kaiarahi From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 24 Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7396 times:
Quoting turjo101 (Reply 12): ahhh...so that's the price for getting slots in Canada.
I don't think so. They got exactly the same number of slots that were negotiated with 8 other countries in the ME / North Africa since the Blue Skies bilateral policy came into effect. And none of the others have ordered C series.
Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 13): It's not a sale until the contract is signed. Al Baker has a somewhat mercurial personality and is subject to change without notice. I'm cautiously optimistic but a lot can happen between now and june.
I think it's more about P&W giving the kind of assurance about GTF performance/support that QR was seeking.
ytz From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 1444 posts, RR: 23 Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7272 times:
Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 2): As per Wiki, Qatar has 9 A319s with none on order.
Don't they have 4? 2 A319LR and 2A319CJ.
I wonder if the plan is to compete with EK by offering frequencies as opposed to cheaper fares. Would help with places like India for instance (if they are seat restricted like EK).
Dash9 From Canada, joined Nov 2008, 137 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7210 times:
Quoting turjo101 (Reply 12): ahhh...so that's the price for getting slots in Canada.
How much revenue (yet profit...) can Qatar get from 3 weekly flights to YUL?
Now how could they buy an airplane they don't want, at a cost of a few billion dollars, and expect to turn enough profit from the flights to overcome the cost of the frames.
sebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1658 posts, RR: 15 Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6713 times:
Quid pro quo? If Qatar had gained more access off the bat, that would have been an eye opener but the Canada-Qatar bilateral is exactly the same starting point as the Canada-UAE bilateral, which is many years old.
And as others have said, Canada has signed many new bilaterals with this kind of initial access.
I call this a par-for-the-course bilateral with the small twist that QR is choosing to use its rights to do something different than EK and EY.
incitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 3777 posts, RR: 14 Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5817 times:
Aside from the advantage Qatar will get in Canada, another aspect of this potential purchase is Qatar battling Emirates in the shorthauls. Emirates has not gone narrowbody. Qatar will have an aircraft that is half the size of Emirates' smallest. Qatar will be able to offer higher frequency in the smaller markets, and serve markets that are too small for Emirates. One thing is assured from QR x EK: Whenever a suitable connection in the Middle East exists, a cheap fare is guaranteed. I feel entitled to it as I already paid at the pump.
QatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1602 posts, RR: 7 Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5195 times:
I think it is not definite that Qatar will order the C-series. He mentioned that the Airbus A320 NEO was a "sensitive issue" and that he will leave the C-series for the July airshow.
I seriously wish Qatar wont go for the C-series and will order NEO's.
XaraB From Norway, joined Aug 2007, 210 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4643 times:
If Qatar goes for the C-series, I doubt it is to replace the 319s, as these are/have been used on long and thin routes, such as ARN and CPH, which are upgraded to 332s when traffic picks up. The C-series won't have the range to do that economically (approx. 5000km, just below the max range of the C-series, compared to 10400km on the 319LR).
I'd guess they'd like to use them on very short routes, such as DXB, AUH, BAH, DMM, MCT etc., increasing frequency.
columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6798 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4312 times:
Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 19): I seriously wish Qatar wont go for the C-series and will order NEO's.
They don´t have to exclude each other - the A319NEO would be a perfect aircraft for long thin routes while the C100/C300 are better for shorter regional flights.
Even if Qatar orders a bunch of C300 they would still need a larger narrowbody and will likely order A320/A321NEOs as well
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
yenne09 From Canada, joined Jun 2010, 183 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2701 times:
Qatar is supposed to serve Montreal with B777. Regarding narrow body, if they want to have some they will act like Gulf Air which has ERJ. It is sure that this will give them more flexibility. I am always surprised when people are not convinced regarding the 100 seaters. In the past a lot of carrier had DC-9, F-28, Fokker 100, Caravelle, Bac 1-11, B727-100, B737-200, BAe/Avro 146.
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