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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 17
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6644 times:

Can someone tell me about the old north terminal at DCA? I believe it opened in 1958, but not sure. Was it linked to the historic main terminal or a seperate facility? What airlines were in there? I believe everyone but EA,NW,AA and TW. What year was it torn down. It had to be before 1993. I'm guessing this pic is from that terminal.


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User currently offlineTheGov From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 414 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

Not sure when it was torn down, but I used to fly DL in there quite a bit. If I recall correctly, the North Terminal contained Delta, Piedmont, PeoplExpress, and I think US Air and Pan Am. The two terminals were connected by a narrow hallway that was at ground level, mostly. The most interesting part about the old terminal was that some of the gate holding areas were also at ground level. I remember boarding a DL 757 from a ground level gate that required you to climb stairs to board via a jetway. The view out the waiting area window was of the nose gear! FWIW, Western was located at the South Terminal. Not sure about Braniff, Republic or Ozark.


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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5008 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6230 times:

Quoting TheGov (Reply 1):


Not sure about Braniff, Republic or Ozark.

Ozark was handled by UA, and utilized the UA gates just south of the North Terminal.



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User currently offlinedeltacto From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6138 times:

Braniff - later People Express used gate 29
Delta used gates 30 and 31

National - later Pan Am used gates 36, 37, and 38

Piedmont used gates 39, 40, 41, 42


User currently offlineYXwatcherMKE From United States of America, joined May 2007, 971 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6020 times:

The old Republic Airlines had several flights into DCA back then and I did MKE-DCA twice I thought we went in and out of ground level gates but I Maybe recalling the old YX gates at DCA. Where were the old RC gates at DCA?


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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6002 times:

Up until the DL/NW merger, NW's website featured a hilariously outdated map of DCA's terminal which still showed the old north terminal -- that doesn't sound that bad except that the maps were drawn almost 10 years after the terminal was demolished, lol. I wish I could find that map, it not only drew the terminal layout, but it also drew the gates themselves, and exactly where each gate was.

Courtesy of the absolutely wonderful website, www.departedflights.com which features tons of information on the yesteryears of aviation, here are a few old terminal maps of DCA:

From Air North's January 1984 timetable:


From Air Virginia's May 1984 timetable:
http://www.departedflights.com/DCAce050184.jpg

From Rockwell Air's December 1984 timetable:


Hope that might help a bit.  

Cheers!
Anthony/Airport


User currently offlineflightopsguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5947 times:

In the late 60's to early 70's you had National, Delta, Northeast, Braniff, and Piedmont. I was there when the south banjo opened with Northwest and TWA.


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User currently offlineDL_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5924 times:

And while we are speaking of DCA, are there any pics of the DL/US Interim terminal anywhere? Was it demolished?


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User currently offlinedeltacto From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5909 times:

Eastern had ground level gates in the main terminal - Gates 18 (Shuttle), 19, 20, and 21 - some with jetways

Allegheny/USAir had ground level gates - Gates 15, 16, and 17 - all on the lower level of the AA pier

United had ground level gates - Gates 26, 27, and 28 - all in the hallway connecting the Main Terminal with the North Terminal


User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5902 times:
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These maps are so interesting! I remember flying to MIA and DFW on 727s, and maybe and MD80 a couple times out of that terminal. I know the 'new' terminal so well that I didnt even realize there were other gates in the "north" terminal. I recently flew on JetBlue to BOS, from DCA, which leaves out of terminal "A" or the rotunda terminal all the way at the south end. I didnt remember flying on AA from that terminal back in the day... so now it all makes sense!

User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5771 times:

Interesitng maps....What did those airlines do when they started building the new terminal in the 90s? Where did they relocate to during those years?

Quoting Airport (Reply 5):
I wish I could find that map, it not only drew the terminal layout, but it also drew the gates themselves, and exactly where each gate was.

I remember this too!


User currently offlineYXwatcherMKE From United States of America, joined May 2007, 971 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

Thanks Anthony/Airport for the great maps....
As soon as I saw the maps it made my old brain recalled how we flew in and out of DCA when we rode RC to the Nations Capitol. I wish I could find my airport pictures of that trip, but my wife must have edited them out of the trip album. I think it was because she was pg that trip and all she did on the planes was vomit V1 to touchdown. It was not a whole lot of fun. However, the FA's were just wonderful though on both flights, one of them was a fromer RN and was nearly at my wifes side during the whole DCA-MKE flight (light LF plus lots of turbulence), she was just great and we wrote the RC Headquarters to praise the FA's. They replyed to say we are glad our crew was so helpful and gave us two vouchers for a second trip to DCA for after my wife gave birth to our son. What airline would do that now?



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User currently offlinephllax From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5588 times:

Quoting DL_mech (Reply 7):
And while we are speaking of DCA, are there any pics of the DL/US Interim terminal anywhere? Was it demolished?

The interim terminal actually consisted of 2 hangar's/buildings, one of which was where Allegheny had its HQ for many years - building 99. The terminal portion was indeed demolished. Don't know if the buildings returned to their original uses. That was always fun to see the lineup of 3 DL 757's somehow fit into their gates on the South end of the interim terminal. H1 was the dedicated "Hourly Best to Boston" gate before the Shuttle was bought by US.


User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2167 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5587 times:

Ship 34 coming on to gate 38...722...required wing walker right wing due to the DL bird. Parking was simple...cross bar with tape in the mounted to the jetway.....tape in the middle of the bar....Captain put the v in the windshield on the tape and cut the motors. Pix taken after EPA/whoever started complaining about the chemicals used to clean the bellies and NA elected to go to white paint instead. Yeah...I was there then...but that's not me in the picture! grin.

User currently onlinecontrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1832 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5362 times:

Quoting TheGov (Reply 1):
I remember boarding a DL 757 from a ground level gate that required you to climb stairs to board via a jetway

This post has brought back a lot of memories. I moved to Arlington, VA, in 87, and spent a fair amount of time at DCA. I also remember boarding somebody's flight via a ground gate with stairs to the jetway. I walked the length of the tunnel to the south side of the airport a few times. There was an employee cafeteria down there, as I recall. I don't remember much else.

The maps are very interesting. I've never heard of some of the airlines shown. There are a lot that aren't around any more.



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User currently offlinedeltacto From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5273 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 10):
Interesitng maps....What did those airlines do when they started building the new terminal in the 90s? Where did they relocate to during those years?

By the time the North Terminal was demolished, PE had merged with CO which did not serve DCA at the time.
PI had merged with US .... US relocated to the Interim Terminal
DL relocated to the Interim Terminal
PA moved to the old US gates - 15/16/17 in the Main Terminal


User currently offlinedeltacto From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5265 times:

Quoting phllax (Reply 12):
That was always fun to see the lineup of 3 DL 757's somehow fit into their gates on the South end of the interim terminal.

One of my most memorable flights:
September 1992 - DL 727-200 BOS-DCA with Senator Ted Kennedy flying in First Class ....
When we arrived DCA, all 3 DL gates were in use ....
we parked on the tarmac and everyone deplaned via the rear stairs ... including Senator Kennedy ....
He was not at all happy


User currently offlinecactus742 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

I'm on a smartphone so I can't embed the photo of NW's old DCA diagram, but here's a link to the archived page, circa 2008: DCA.shtml" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/200804101...om/travel/trave/airports/DCA.shtml

And here's a thread from a few years ago about NW's lack of updating this map: NWA.com's Decade-old DCA Map (by Cactus742 Aug 11 2007 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4989 times:

And now, the most important question: anyone know where I can see aerial photos of DCA back in the day?


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User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4981 times:
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Quoting cactus742 (Reply 17):
And here's a thread from a few years ago about NW's lack of updating this map: NWA.com's Decade-old DCA Map (by Cactus742 Aug 11 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Since the NWA web site no longer exists (nor does Northwest Airlines for that matter) none of the links in this article connect.


User currently onlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3722 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4947 times:

Quoting DL_mech (Reply 7):

And while we are speaking of DCA, are there any pics of the DL/US Interim terminal anywhere? Was it demolished?

Not sure, but there is one USAir commercial that I found on YouTube that was filmed in the interim terminal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmzC8tYVkz0



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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5008 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 18):


And now, the most important question: anyone know where I can see aerial photos of DCA back in the day?

Ask and ye shall recieve:

http://historicaerials.com/



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User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1845 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4718 times:

Here is the NWA gate map cactus742 was talking about:



User currently offlineSLCPilot From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 581 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4688 times:

Here's a memory from the "north" terminal. As a kid I had flown FRA-JFK in a PanAm 747 (I think) in 1982. The cockpit crew had given me a neat chart of our path across the North Atlantic. On our JFK-DCA leg in a 727 I had stored the chart in the overhead bin.

At any rate, I only remembered where it was when we were getting into the car in the parking lot. No problem! I just ran back past security saying "I forgot something", back out to the plane, and found my chart where I had left it! Total time from car-plane-car was

[Edited 2011-02-08 15:48:47]


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User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

I'm glad somebody found the map....Still unclear on how they accommodated airlines when construction on the new terminal began.

25 Goldenshield : Perhaps my memory is just making stuff up, as I was only 6 at the time, but when I flew into DCA on Braniff circa mid-80's, I distinctly remember the
26 727tiger : In July 1984, I flew into DCA on a Piedmont 727 from CLT (on a GSO-CLT-DCA routing), into the old North Terminal. Flying out to STL a few days later,
27 727tiger : Okay, now I'm just not going to get ANY work done today. That site is completely engrossing for someone like me who loves seeing how various airports
28 contrails : When they began work on the new terminal they moved US and DL (and possibly one other airline) to a temporary terminal on the far north side of the a
29 PEXDCA : Thanks for bringing back some great memories. I actually worked in the North Terminal at DCA from 1985-1987. PEOPLExpress used Gate 29 in the North Te
30 seabosdca : What a great thread! As a relatively new Washingtonian, I'm learning a lot about my favorite airport.
31 malaysia : Slightly Off Topic, with that National Photo, the ramp agent, is he a National Airlines agent? just wondered if they actually wore Orange if you worke
32 washingtonian : Thanks for the explanation. Related question: Back in the day, was DCA (and I suppose the North Terminal) considered "nice" for the times? Today we a
33 hiflyer : Yes he was and yes I did. Bout next year went to brown pants....hard to keep that orange clean...grin. As I stated up thread I worked there when that
34 Post contains images VC10DC10 : I can't remember how many times I sprinted to the security line, and then from the line to my gate, to *just barely* make it on a DCA flight.... Good
35 malaysia : I flew TWA out of that terminal as well in the 80s and 90s and it seemed to have a large airport feel to it, walking down the white tunnel to the ban
36 Post contains images PacificClipper : Great DCA memories! Flew out of there many a time to either MIA or ATL. Miss those, and EA too. "We serve 50,000 meals." Ahh the good old days. WAS? I
37 Post contains images OzarkD9S : No problem! I've wasted many an hour on that darn site
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