dbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 792 posts, RR: 1 Posted (2 years 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6315 times:
Several months ago I saw a couple pictures of Allegiant's new 757s, I'm curious what their status is? I understand the ETOPS process takes awhile to be implemented, but weren't they going to use the aircraft on routes within the lower 48 during the interim? How many does Allegiant currently have? When will we see them enter service? Any other information would be much appreciated.
Also, where are these 757s being stored while we wait for them to enter service?
NWA330nut From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 115 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6252 times:
Didn't they lease a few of them to other airlines because they weren't completely ready for them? I'm sure someone here could confirm that. As far as numbers, I haven't heard much. Good luck on your investigation!
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N901NV: parked at NZC/VQQ
N902NV: parked at PAE
N903NV: parked at LTN as G-BYAH, will become G-LSAM shortly, for summer lease to Jet2
N904NV: parked at QLA as G-LSAL, for summer lease to Jet2
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FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 18 Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5372 times:
In their earnings conference call, Allegiant said they expect to do proving flights in May/June and assuming no problems have one of the 757s enter mainland service in late summer. They are not saying which routes (or charters) will see the aircraft used initially.
In the meantime, they supposedly have leased out three (not just two). One can be recalled at Allegiant's option anytime after Summer 2011 while the others run thru Summer 2012.
Interestingly, Allegiant expects to earn $15 to $18 million from the 3 leases thru Summer 2012. That is about the same dollar amount as they previously stated would be the in-service cost for one of the 757s. Basically thru the leases they will recover their costs of one of the 6 aircraft being bought.
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SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2588 posts, RR: 31 Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5278 times:
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 5): Allegiant said they expect to do proving flights in May/June and assuming no problems have one of the 757s enter mainland service in late summer. They are not saying which routes (or charters) will see the aircraft used initially.
Not too far off! I'm guessing BLI-HNL and LGB-HNL will be in the first round, maybe with MRY, SCK, EUG, or even SMX in the original mix. One plane should be able to cover 3-4 cities with with 1x weekly-2x weekly service to HNL.
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FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3170 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4971 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 6): Not too far off! I'm guessing BLI-HNL and LGB-HNL will be in the first round, maybe with MRY, SCK, EUG, or even SMX in the original mix. One plane should be able to cover 3-4 cities with with 1x weekly-2x weekly service to HNL.
It said specifically: mainland service. Not mainland-Hawaii service. G4 has stated before that Hawaii won't come until ETOPS certification, targeted for 2012.
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5525 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4443 times:
I was hoping to see SFB-LAS since there really isn't a lot of Orlando-LAS flights right now.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 18 Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2661 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 6): Not too far off! I'm guessing BLI-HNL and LGB-HNL will be in the first round, maybe with MRY, SCK, EUG, or even SMX in the original mix.
As mentioned G4 will not start Hawaii until 2012 now.
And what you have something against Fresno? I think FAT-HNL will start before EUG, MRY or SMX. Just the Fresno MSA (not including the other MSAs served by the airport) currently sends more people to Hawaii than those others. I think it will be hard for Allegiant to leave it out of the early cities.
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GSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2745 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2490 times:
Quoting LV (Reply 4): I was really hoping SA)">G4 would capitalize on the process and use the 757s to try out a few routes that the MD80s don't have the legs for.
smoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1224 posts, RR: 12 Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2467 times:
Quoting dbo861 (Thread starter): I was really hoping G4 would capitalize on the process and use the 757s to try out a few routes that the MD80s don't have the legs for.
We'll see. Some of the smaller markets outside the range of the MD80 may not be profitable on a 757. If you look at small cities that G4 and others have quit in the past: FWA, CAK, ROC, FNT, GRY, PBI, SWF, ABE, GSP, etc, I'm not sure G4 would want to invest money in either setting up a new station or a new route that they would have to end soon after in order to start Hawaii flights.
GSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2745 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2139 times:
Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 11): We'll see. Some of the smaller markets outside the range of the MD80 may not be profitable on a 757.
LAS is the ONLY way I see for G4 to grow a station like GSP. They already serve all their Florida makets from here. I'd think a weekly or 2x/week flight could do it with proper support (advertising, community involvement, etc).
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I think FAT-HNL will start before EUG, MRY or SMX. Just the Fresno MSA (not including the other MSAs served by the airport) currently sends more people to Hawaii than those others. I think it will be hard for Allegiant to leave it out of the early cities.
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