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Southern Air To Aquire 15 744s  
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10645 posts, RR: 9
Posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6714 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-747-classics-with-747-400sfs.html

A few weeks ago they were talking about ten 744s, now its 14 or 15 Fs, BCFs, BDSF over the next three years to replace the majority of its 747-200 fleet, plus some leased 777Fs for growth. A massive fleet rollover starting in a few months. The current operators of these planes are unknown, but it can be assumed that some parked 744s will be among them which still are waiting for conversion, plus some older Fs being sold by airlines receiving 748Fs soon.

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User currently offlinekl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6453 times:

Better change the title, A B744 is not the same as a 747 freighter..


Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6035 times:

Cant change the title, I think its anyway secondary anyway. Most will know that Southern is a freight operator.

User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2489 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6007 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 1):
Better change the title, A B744 is not the same as a 747 freighter..

Actually, they might be aquiring 15 747-400's, but they will be 747BCF's after conversion   in that case, it will be a correct title i think.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

How many of these B-747-400s are sitting parked in storage somewhere just waiting for their new owner? Do we know what engines Southern prefers? If they are GE engines, some of the B-744s could be ex-JL airplanes, if they want P&Ws then I would guess some will be ex-UA airplanes.

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9719 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

That is interesting. Does anyone if they plan on flying these birds to/from South America too?

A388


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
How many of these B-747-400s are sitting parked in storage somewhere just waiting for their new owner? Do we know what engines Southern prefers? If they are GE engines, some of the B-744s could be ex-JL airplanes, if they want P&Ws then I would guess some will be ex-UA airplanes.

So far they are GE-only. And why should that change on 744s I cant see. Its well possible that they might strike a very good deal with AeroSale and lease the whole bunch of the remaining ex-JAL 744s and have them converted. As much as I know there is not a single 744F or BCF that is not active at the moment, although the airlines which will get 748Fs soon will certainly sell some of their 744Fs over the next few yeras, in line with Southern´s plans.


User currently offlinexdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 631 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):

Most likely the JL birds, but IIRC two of the batch where the SUD version with short range fuel capacity.

Would those still make sense to SA as they mention NO/SO America runs?


User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Good news .. Love 4 engined beasts and the more that are flying for me to see the better.

User currently offlinebonusonus From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

The 777s should look pretty cool in Southern Air's new livery.

User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2898 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2160 times:

Quoting xdlx (Reply 7):
Most likely the JL birds, but IIRC two of the batch where the SUD version with short range fuel capacity.

Would those still make sense to SA as they mention NO/SO America runs?

Huh? All 744s have SUD. Do you mean 400-D versions?

Winglets can be put on them, so range will increase slightly with standard fuel. Cargo airlines like Southern will make tech stops for fuel anyway rather than leave cargo behind, so that might not be much of an issue.



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User currently offlinexdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 631 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 10):

D....Stand corrected  


User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Does Southern even have the money to lease one B744F??? I was asked to submit a contract bid with them- after researching their financial state I declined!

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