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Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental Roll Out Thread Pt2  
User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46873 times:

This thread is a continuation of the following thread:

Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental Roll Out Thread (by oykie Feb 12 2011 in Civil Aviation)

184 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineFlyNWA727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 47218 times:

Here she is for those who missed it...

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/Khemistry84/Boeing747-8iRedDreamlinerLivery1.jpg

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt206/Khemistry84/Boeing747-8iRedDreamlinerLivery2.jpg



First flight aboard a Northwest B727-251ADV out of BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport, my hometown airport.
User currently offlinespeedmarque From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46905 times:

Daft Q maybe but exactly how is the nose sharper? Is it simply a redesigned radome?

Thanks


User currently offlineA380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 1116 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46898 times:

I like the red too. Nice. It's true that the nose looks pointy. As if there were one more window than usual. Strange. It must be because the paint scheme is ignoring the radar dome.

User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1721 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46890 times:

(taken from the first thread)

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 138):
Wish they would have done without the violinists. duh....

Well, with that lousy video job, we only heard one of them, anyway... And after, no ambiance sound...

Surprised by the red as well. Looking forward to seeing it in the sun!

Did anyone notice Nico Buchholz's comment that for once, efficiency, economics, technics and beauty were reunited in one plane (or somethine like that)... ?


User currently offline747LUVR From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46879 times:

WOOOOOW. what a stunning beautiful bird. Simply amazing!!! JOB WELL DONE BOEING, suppliers, and customers! Can't wait to hop on board the new 748i, what a wonderful day. 747LUVR         

User currently offlinekrisyyz From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46649 times:

The 747 is an incredible plane, and the -8 will do justice to that reputation. What a great looking and improved version! However I am not a fan of the new corporate colours. Perhaps I'm swayed because my favorite colour is blue, and I don't think it looks horrible, i just prefer the previous colours.

I wouldn't mind getting one of those models what were by the stage!

KrisYYZ


User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2770 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46689 times:

Nice rollout but I could have completely done without the crazy fiddle players.... But I do realize it's PR stuff and whatnot.  



That said, she looks gorgeous. Big grin


[Edited 2011-02-13 11:56:42]


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User currently offlineanshuk From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46516 times:

What a beauty! I absolutely LOVE how long the upper deck is. Beautiful, beautiful.. Give me this over the whale any day! Congratulations Boeing, lets hope they sell a lot more of these..

User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46621 times:

Here are the pix I posted in the first thread:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/UAL747DEN/747-8i.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/UAL747DEN/B747-8i_2.png

She is such a beautiful bird!



/// UNITED AIRLINES
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10907 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46505 times:

Any idea when the first ever take off will take place? How are Boeing going to fit in this new plane's test flights with the B-787-8 flight test program? They will be busy!!!!

When is Lufthansa supposed to get their first delivery? Another First to Fly on sight and with Lufthansa I know the right people to get me on board... will be less fighting than for the 787 and ANA!



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineLFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3345 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46499 times:
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WOW! What an amazing looking bird! I really like the chosen colour scheme! Congrats to Boeing indeed!


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User currently offlines.p.a.s. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46397 times:

Amazing plane...amazing colour scheme...

Can not wait to see her at my home airport... bring it on, Lufti...

Congrats to the Boeing team...



"ad astra per aspera"
User currently offlinedalca From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 46391 times:

It will take a while to load up one of these babies with pax. Is it possible to connect a jetway to the topdoor or is it just meant for a evacuation?


Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight KUL-FRA-AMS Flown in A319,A
User currently offlineA380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 1116 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 46307 times:

Quoting anshuk (Reply 8):
What a beauty! I absolutely LOVE how long the upper deck is.

I love it too. But why those last two windows after the last door. It looks a little weird. What did they stick in there? One more seat?


User currently offlinecolumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7078 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 46346 times:

Do they have any stickers from the launch customer on the plane ? I don´t see any, maybe they decided against since it is only LH and Korean.

P.S.
At least I know now how an Air Berlin 747-8I would look like  Smile

[Edited 2011-02-13 12:04:31]


It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlinespeedmarque From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 46226 times:

Square windows up and round ones down looks a bit odd.........

User currently offlineflyPBA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 46383 times:

here is a better photo



User currently offlineflyPBA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 46221 times:

Quoting speedmarque (Reply 16):
Square windows up and round ones down looks a bit odd.........

all the windows are exactly the same shape and size


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10907 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 46160 times:

.... But Boeing has won just 33 orders for the passenger version of the plane so far - from Lufthansa and Korean Air Lines.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12444433

I thought they had more orders than this. They will have to sell at the Paris Air Show!



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineFlyNWA727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 46172 times:

Quoting dalca (Reply 13):
It will take a while to load up one of these babies with pax. Is it possible to connect a jetway to the topdoor or is it just meant for a evacuation?

No, I don't think that's possible...




First flight aboard a Northwest B727-251ADV out of BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport, my hometown airport.
User currently offlinespeedmarque From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 46131 times:

Quoting flyPBA (Reply 18):
all the windows are exactly the same shape and size



I read the 777/764 window strip went on the main deck but couldn't be fitted upstairs.......

[Edited 2011-02-13 12:07:13]

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10907 posts, RR: 37
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 46075 times:

Quoting flyPBA (Reply 17):

A very well proportioned aircraft as per this picture.
She will look great in Lufthansa colours. I must go to my LH boss friend and reserve my scale model.

Quite a nice Valentine's day present from Boeing to Lufthansa!

  



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 45951 times:

Why is the 7th window blanked on the Unveiled B748i.....Is there a Bulkhead there?.


Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineFlyNWA727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 45887 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 22):
Quite a nice Valentine's day present from Boeing to Lufthansa!

Unless I'm grossly misinformed, the first B747-8i is not for LH, it's a private business jet. So I'm not sure why so many people keep referencing LH.

http://nycaviation.com/2011/02/sneak...-boeing-747-8i-under-construction/

[Edited 2011-02-13 12:12:10]


First flight aboard a Northwest B727-251ADV out of BWI Thurgood Marshall Airport, my hometown airport.
25 flyPBA : no that is where static pressure test equipment is placed (in the window opening) ... all new aircraft have this for test flights
26 Post contains images flyPBA : This 748 will become a BBJ for an unnamed government ... Ship 2 (still under construction) is the first for LH here is Lufthansa's first 747-830 as o
27 Post contains links flyPBA : some more photos of the plane here: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...usinesstechnology2014200928/1.html
28 PPVRA : Nose may look a bit sharper in some pics because of the lighting and resulting shaded area covering the bottom part of the nose section.
29 SLCPilot : Just an opinion, but to me, the red does not blend well with the orange on the tail. Also, the lighting in the roll-out didn't seem to put any emphisi
30 A380900 : It looks like on most 747, the first window is painted. That explains why the nose looks pointy. Also usually, it's easier to tell the radar dome from
31 Emirates2005 : Well, I am truly disappointed. The plane is wonderful, but the color ruins it. It looks like a model airplane with a stamp on the bottom reading Made
32 flyPBA : actually ... the plane is still in the Boeing corporate scheme ... but they replaced the dark blue and light blue with the red from 747 #1 (City of E
33 sutrakhk : My first impression for Red and Orange combination: Air India
34 JBirdAV8r : I'm guessing the maroon is supposed to be a throwback to the old Boeing flight test livery maroon...thinking 367-80. I bet it looks stunning out in th
35 Speedbird741 : Such a shame that airlines like BA and SA that have the marks of the 747 all over them will not have this majestic bird sporting their livery. Speedbi
36 BY738 : I thought it was 787 windows. . . . .
37 earlyNFF : From the Seattle Times photos: reg is N6067E
38 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I know that the first aircraft is for the State of Kuwait. Still the Mr Lufthansa was there. The Lufthansa people took an active part in the creation
39 Post contains images jetblue777 : WOAH. Stunning! Though I like red livery, i much prefer the blue, oh well what can you do? I'm a big fan of the A388 but the 748i is better looking! C
40 warden145 : I can't wait to see her in the colors of many other airlines...I know it's largely a pipe dream, but I would really like to see a large number of new
41 ColAvionLover : Wonder if Obama's Goverment bought that BBJ. Maybe a new Pres. a/c?
42 MadameConcorde : The State of Kuwait it seems... is the first client for the aircraft.
43 yellowtail : Those engines look really large on her....hairdryers part 2! Looking forward to flying her on FRA-IAH. I know she has gotta be on that route! I still
44 gunsontheroof : This one really sold it for me. Definitely a surprising curveball, but really, really good looking! I was hoping for the Dreamliner livery and was ex
45 dennys : I can understand myself when i still feel in love for any beauty like this one showing how much the 747 is important for me and for most of aviation e
46 328JET : Uuuugh... Red and orange like in the seventies... Horrible! And in my eyes, the aircraft is too long, but i know, i am in a minority. I cannot wait t
47 Post contains images KPDX : I don't think anyone really expected anything that positive from you.
48 Post contains links and images CARST : The new engines look so huuuuugeeeeee! I really have to get used to it, but I love the fact that the 747 now has engines that resemble her real size i
49 Post contains images 328JET : Come on, my post could have been worse... But the livery is horrible and not comparable to the blue version.
50 Post contains images Revelation : My first thought was the red and orange must be from McD-D, and that the Mc-D-D takeover of Boeing has finally been completed! But alas I have no evi
51 anshuk : I don't think there's actually a door there, but maybe that's just me.
52 Post contains links and images bigphilnyc : Royal has a great one, first in the d/b! Good work as always. View Large View MediumPhoto © Royal S King[Edited 2011-02-13 16:12:18 by srbmod]
53 Post contains images MauriceB : Me has new fav. plane.. Goodbye MD-11, helllooooo 747-8!
54 ebj1248650 : I suspect I'm not alone in wishing that Boeing had come up with something more creative while determining how to paint the first 748i. Given that the
55 Post contains images goblin211 : Just like a lot of people on here, I was surprised by the red/orange. It'll take some getting used to like the new UA livery but in the end it's still
56 Post contains images DEVILFISH : Perhaps because no other airline outside Asia save for LH ordered the 748i (VIP frames excepted).....and the one demanding the most only used it as a
57 Post contains images cpd : Urgh, the flying pumpkin... It looks rather better on the old Qantas Group Australian B767-338s (when that airline was around for a short time). The
58 Ken777 : While I prefer the blue to the red/orange I'm really not that concerned about the paint job. It's going to be easy to see it rom the ground during tes
59 JAAlbert : I find the red and orange a welcome change. Blue has been so overdone it should be outlawed. Give a coupla other colors a shot! I think the tail is go
60 ER757 : It was a beautiful, sunny day. But here in this part of country, you really can't count on that at this time of year, so it's quite understandable th
61 328JET : In comparison to a B744 - yes! In comparison to an A388 - a very short bowling alley...(and still no direct uperdeck boarding)
62 Schweigend : I like the color scheme, it differentiates this plane from the bad-memory Dreamliner hues. Could those two windows at the end of the upper deck be the
63 Post contains links and images flyPBA : here are some more photos (posted with permission): larger: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5443056883_ed091a6ae0_o.jpg larger: http://farm6.stati
64 Post contains images Aloha717200 : Yeahhh not feeling the red but loving the plane. Congrats to Boeing for a nice roll out.
65 kdhurst380 : Not impressed at all, the red just doesn't work, nothing against red as a colour, but the shade is too dark! not a reflection of a modern, 21st centur
66 wolbo : It's a bit of a disappointment to me and I much prefer the 747-400 look over this 747-8. The extended upper deck just doesn't look right to me and the
67 jetfuel : Its hideous. Its almost sickly. Major fail. If they wanted to use some red a Black, Burgundy with red accent would have looked classy
68 manfredj : I'm in awe how long this airplane is. Is it really the longest airplane in the world? In the sunlight, the color scheme is smashing, only word for it
69 BDABOY : I think it's a fantastic plane. AND I love the colour scheme. I really hope I get the chance to fly on one one day. The 747 has always been my favouri
70 IFlyTWA : What an amazing paint scheme. Blows the boring blue version away!
71 Stitch : The color scheme looks better in the "sun" (the quotes are because it's been mostly overcast all dat). I appreciate them wanting to go "legacy" using
72 PlanesNTrains : Well, that is a benefit to be sure. However, I do think I might have liked it a little better. -Dave
73 Post contains links timpdx : Color scheme reminds me a bit of the 707 N70700 parked in the Smithsonian (that was orange and gold). Blue and white is fine, in fact I just saw the t
74 rj777 : If you look VERY closely, you can still see SOME Blue ABOVE the red..... plus the basic body design is STILL the Dreamliner livery.
75 Post contains images KGRB : I can't believe how many people are blasting Boeing for going back to their roots and using a color from the original 747! Don't you folks care about
76 pilotdudeaz : Well done Boeing! I love the colors and I'm excited that the 747 will be around for many more years to come. By the way, did anyone else see the model
77 CFBFrame : Does anyone know the size comparison of the upper deck to a 737-700? Based on the pictures from the Seattle Times it appears the upper deck has an inc
78 flyPBA : that's actually pearlized grey ... same shade used on the blue version of this colorscheme (aka dreamliner scheme)
79 SexyAdonis : Bravo and well done Boeing! All we can do is just contemplate all that beauty! This would have been the ideal aircraft for us at QANTAS. If only the t
80 BN747 : Thanks for posting these and providing the link.. IMHO...it looks absolutely stunning! The biggest 747 ever! Look at those guns..holy moly those thin
81 Post contains images FlyNWA727 : I would have KILLED to have seen these winglets on the -8i...
82 Post contains images cpd : I've got it in Flight Simulator on the PMDG B747-8i. It's very vivid looking. Maybe I'll take a few screenshots of it.
83 DocLightning : I don't. Boeing's house colors are blue and white. Why is this plane red and white? The exact same livery in blue would have been gorgeous. Same reas
84 FlyNWA727 : So, did you not see the other 83 posts in this very thread (excluding Part 1) where MANY members gave an explanation for the red? Please read before
85 Aircellist : From the pictures, that thing looks huge!
86 JAAlbert : Doc, how can you say that??? Okay but how's this as a compromise - I flew from Tucson to San Diego this evening at sunset. The sky was a pale blue, w
87 rj777 : I love how the VP explained how the reds and oranges symbolize a new beginning and a prosperous future.... UNITED, ARE YOU LISTENING?
88 Post contains images wilco737 : Very nice aircraft! It looks really really nice! About the red and orange, I was like WTF did they do?! But on a second look, it is not too bad. It is
89 Klaus : Or – more fittingly – the sunset of the type.
90 Byrdluvs747 : My god!! It looks like those winglets are 20 feet tall.
91 BlueSky1976 : Ugly livery on an ugly plane. The 777 windows make it even worse. Ugh. I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching the roll-out.
92 allegro : Ok ... violins and a new 747 ... my two great non-animate loves! Too MUCH! Thanks, Boeing! Can hardly wait to fly her.
93 Post contains images wilco737 : Looks like you really like the new 748i The good thing is, people all have different taste. I really do like the airplane and it looks very good to m
94 Burkhard : I wish this aircraft a success test phase, a smooth EIS, to fullfill all specs and to have more costumors. Congratulations, Baby.
95 Post contains images cpd : They've listened, and voted for B787 and A350. I think whoever that user is, they are probably stirring!
96 AY-MD11 : Beautiful airplane! The red and white paint scheme is stunning.
97 mal787 : Thats one sexy beast, cant wait to see her fly , LH come back Australia so I can take a ride on here mal787
98 Post contains links kmz : In Jon's article about the B747-8i debut, he states that this aircraft has "a larger empennage". Why would a stretch get a larger empennage? Shouldn't
99 Post contains images wilco737 : Yeah, would be cool if LH flies back to Australia, but I have serious doubts that will happen wilco737
100 Post contains images oykie : It does look good. From the reactions here this plane will no doubt make headlines. This plane has been tailor made for LH. That is a good partner fo
101 Post contains images wilco737 : Sounds like a plan. Summer 2011 is flown with 744 on both flights LH456 and 450. So there seems to be demand for it. Maybe the perfect market for the
102 NZdsgnr : give me that plane, that livery, those windows over the A388 anytime... she's one looker... A388 not so much
103 Post contains images gipsy : First of all congrats to Boeing! Many happy landings! Yep but most comparisons are from others a la give me the 747 any day over the A380...just compa
104 Daysleeper : I'm a little underwhelmed with this, personally I think the 400 is much better proportioned in regards to the frame - It would have looked incredible
105 columba : Well although I am a huge fan of the 747 and the 747-8, I have to say in comparison with other new aircraft the cockpit windows look a little bit out
106 na : Wonderful plane. With this livery it really stand out, with the Dreamliner scheme it wouldnt. Not thinking this new version is the greatest livery in
107 francoflier : I think the cockpit windows on the 747 look great, always have. I would have been devastated if they had changed them, I'm not a big fan of these new
108 Post contains images wilco737 : The cockpit windows are small. You sit in a relatively small cockpit with small windows in such a big airplane... I like the 747, but the windows are
109 CHRISBA777ER : Beautiful plane - absolutely stunning and i'm liking the homage to the City of Everett in red/orange. Very cool. I think this is easily the best looki
110 francoflier : The cockpit is small, and you don't feel like sitting in a veranda like in a L-1011, but I've never found the size of the cockpit windows to be a pro
111 Post contains images wilco737 : It is no problem. I used to fly MD11s before and now on 744. Then it feels very small. But you see enough. Just watch out that you don't bang your he
112 MadameConcorde : I hope Boeing will have many more orders for this aircraft. It would be a shame that they build this for only 33 orders! There has to be more to come
113 Post contains images na : As all pictures were done in less than optimal situation, and are distorted by the need to shoot wideangle here an exact drawing of the new Queen of t
114 Post contains images frigatebird : Hey, I was gonna ask you about it! Beautiful plane. Nice to see a special livery. Too bad about the red and orange. I mean, as a Dutchman I like oran
115 Post contains images MadameConcorde : The B-747-8i is a very well proportioned and good looking aircraft. If there is a new title to hold she will have to share it with the Airbus 380-800
116 CHRISBA777ER : I dont know of any ongoing VLA campaigns right now where the 747-8i is in contention - last one was OZ and the A388 won that one. Hard to know where
117 Post contains links and images na : I disagree. This was imho one of the best liveries ever: View Large View MediumPhoto © Udo K. Haafke That said, the Dreamliner scheme indeed looks b
118 na : You are making a mistake when only comparing the 748I with the A380. As Emirates´ chief Clark said last week the real enemy of the 748I is the 77W.
119 rbgso : Not sure I'm liking the red morphing into orange, but even that cannot take away from the beauty of this bird. Classic good looks always stand the tes
120 CharlieNoble : Buzzkill! Who the hell let this guy into the party? LOL I do like the idea of the 747 "riding off into the sunset" though.
121 Post contains images cpd : Wilco737: Just organise for the Berlin Philharmonic to come back to Sydney again. But bring them on the 747-8i, not some regular 747-430 "Dresden" as
122 Post contains images wilco737 : I will see what I can do. But I have doubts that anybody will listen to me In my 10 years of working in the aviation industry I learnt: NEVER say NEV
123 Post contains links frigatebird : Unfortunately, the rumors that the 747-8 is falling short on performance have been confirmed by Boeing. The GEnx-2B needs a PIP-3 to get its fuel bur
124 Post contains images KLMA330 : LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE IT !!!! What a gorgeous machine. It screams power, and it looks mean. AWESOME! This should get them some more order
125 flyglobal : Since I see the plane outside, I do like the reed collored plane better then my first impression was. While before being hesitant to applaude, I can
126 Delimit : Wonderful. And add another fan to the red team. I think the livery looks fantastic, and it's definitely makes a nice change to the blue, which is gett
127 glideslope : I would agree. There is a certain "feeling" I experience when thinking about the 747/757. I would go one step further, and include the 727 as well. B
128 glideslope : IMO, I think that was their intention. Trying to bring back the 741 roll out in 2011 Mode.
129 328JET : Lufthansa uses a configuration which is nearly 100 seats lower than Boeings figure. So why should they have a performance problem....?
130 Post contains images 328JET : Was ist really YOU who wrote that comment...? In my eyes, the complete fuselage looks outdated - in contrast to the wing and the engines!
131 Post contains images wilco737 : And we at LH don't have many very long haul routes. Longest is FRA-EZE which is almost no problem range wise. Even with full PAX load. And we don't h
132 columba : Nah, somebody hacked my account.....no seriously yesterday I had this thought while looking at the 747-8I. Still one of the most beautiful aircraft o
133 Post contains images flightsimboy : Madame Concorde, these are available in the 1:200 scale from both Hogan and Herpa
134 Aircellist : Nice to see you again, Wilco. Are you slated to migrate to this new bird soon? El Al ?
135 manfredj : Funny, no one ever seems to be worried about 380 sales...or lack of them. The 380 is a brand new airplane and should be selling like hotcakes. I woul
136 Post contains images Gordomatic : You can see 747-8i launch customer stickers under the middle row of windows on the upper deck. They are rather small but visible in the higher resolu
137 Post contains images Klaus : It's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it...! And she's certainly doing it in style!
138 CHRISBA777ER : But we're not talking about the A380 here - its a completely different plane. The 747-8i is being rolled out so we're talking about that one. They've
139 Post contains images msp747 : I don't know if I share manfredj's optimism about future sales, but I think he may be right that neither the 748i or the a380 have been selling well l
140 manfredj : How exactly is my comment inflamatory? I'm the one trying to enjoy reading the rollout thread yet I have to read about poor 748 sales and the red sym
141 Ronaldo747 : What a beauty .. the 747 always remains the Queen of the Skies .... forever!
142 CharlieNoble : For what it's worth, I meant "Ride off into the sunset" in a very postive way. Only the hero (think Clint Eastwood) gets to do that in Western movies.
143 kanban : Interesting how people bash the existing model and when it's revised bash the change even harder. leads me to suspect these people are really only opp
144 KGRB : Exactly. Why can't the Airbus aficionados let the 747 fans have this moment without all of the doom and gloom talk? (And, BTW, I read all the A380 ro
145 CHRISBA777ER : Mate - you'll find that, contrary to popular belief, A380 Afficionadoes are all in fact 747 fans as well. We're here to marvel at what a stunning loo
146 Stitch : The miss seems to be a great deal less than rumors stated, however. Claims were the 747-8F could barely beat a 747-400F in payload-range.
147 Post contains images wilco737 : Yes. Next year when it joins the fleet, we get a conversion training so we will be able to fly 744 and 748 with one rating. Hopefully soon I couldn't
148 Post contains images CHRISBA777ER : I am mad jealous. Bit less stressful than the MD11 I'd say?
149 bmacleod : Hope to see LH 747-8i in LH is currently using 340-600s on the route and with AC codesharing 77Ws, doesn't look promising at the moment...... Maybe KE
150 Post contains images wilco737 : Define less stressful?! The Type Rating was pretty stressful as the 744 has so many things to know about. But I managed to go through it and enjoy al
151 CHRISBA777ER : Isnt she quite noisy in the cockpit - a mate of mine used to fly jumbos for SQC and he said they were much noisier in terms of wind noise in the cock
152 na : Thats what I always hear from everyone involved with the 744, no matter if pilot or technician. I´m looking forward to fly on an LH 744 again next m
153 Post contains images wilco737 : Oh yeah I do hope so Normal cruise speed is Mach 0.84 and if we are in a rush 0.86 or 0.87. Makes sense. It is cruising fast. Drop me a PM and I can
154 bmacleod : Hope to see LH 747-8i in YYZ. LH is currently using 340-600s on the route and with AC codesharing 77Ws, doesn't look promising at the moment...... May
155 CHRISBA777ER : What has a higher thrust to weight ratio - an empty 744 or an empty 748i?
156 Post contains images Klaus : It already has – and now the manufacturing backlog is so long that the sheer timing will have some airlines look closer at the competition instead
157 Post contains links Aircellist : How true! Montréal's public transit has finally launched, last year, a shuttle service from downtown to the airport (still can't believe it took so
158 mham001 : cough, cough....ahem Boeing lists the same speed. Mach .85
159 CharlieNoble : I was responding to ManfredJ's post... I agree Chris, but I think it's an apples and oranges situation. Europeans came to know and love the 747 on it
160 MCIGuy : I think that was the point.
161 328JET : But not a good one from a marketing perspective. They market the aircraft as new and present a retro design, which really shows the age of the comple
162 manfredj : I think that's to be determined. While I agree there have been some major fumbles in product marketing over the years, I don't think a red fuselage w
163 CharlieNoble : Right on. Because freighters have primarily been afterthought derivatives of passenger planes or conversions of old hulls people don't think much abo
164 328JET : The B748F is a huge success already, but i really hope for some more orders as the order-book is very static in the moment. And that has two reasons.
165 FlyNWA727 : I read online, yesterday, that the -8i had a slightly higher cruise speed (Mach .86) due to the increased momentum arm afforded to the aircraft thank
166 manfredj : I've also read that. Pretty amazing. How does a quicker cruise figure into an airplanes economics? Has that been an asset to the 744 for airlines?
167 Post contains images frigatebird : I never believed it was that bad. And with the latest PIP for the GEnx, Boeing should be able to find a little bit to get the 747-8 back to the origi
168 PEET7G : This is the sexiest and most beautiful machine ever. I seriously had my bad feeling about it when seeing it just on some renderings, I too thought tha
169 Post contains images CHRISBA777ER : I think its an honourable draw with the A345. And thats saying something. I think its an oblique nod to the 741 Cit5y of Everett rollout - gives peop
170 columba : I don´t believe that this will translate into order, if the numbers are right yes but no "8" or red/orange paint job will do the job
171 affirmative : Honestly, I couldn't care less about the looks of the plane and maybe to an even lesser extent the paintjob. I hope to fly on one as soon as she enter
172 CharlieNoble : True...I guess we'll see if there are more operators whose balance sheets show that the new aircraft's efficiency justifies replacement. I suppose Bo
173 qfa787380 : Clearly TK is a competitive VLA situation ATM. Boeing pretty much admitted that at rollout. Apart from that, how many active VLA campaigns are there
174 davs5032 : True. Seeing as how TK is expanding rapidly and wants to establish themselves in the "top tier" so to speak, I can't see them choosing the 748i over
175 goldenargosy : I saw this and I instantly smiled. Best livery in years. Unexpected and stylish. It's soooo nice not to see that unimaginative all white fuselage that
176 Post contains images oykie : LOL Important with comparison as a true aviation nut, I like to travel on as many different airplanes as possible Nicely worded! I also grew up with
177 Post contains links 328JET : http://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen-maerk...wohlgehuetetes-geheimnis-457332/3/ Lufthansa is the first airline, which has opted for additional insulation ma
178 oykie : Interesting. Thank you for sharing. Is the nose including the cockpit?
179 Post contains images CHRISBA777ER : I love it - you get it in F but not back in scum class. Its a noise surcharge!!!
180 Ellehammer : I'm sure it is a great airplane, but it certainly isn't pretty, in my eyes. That overgrown hump makes the whole plane look really too heavy in the fro
181 Post contains images Klaus : Apparently. But I'd expect that this additional insulation comes at the cost of additional weight, so somebody will in fact have to pay for that...
182 na : Very funny, because that the quietest place in a 747 already. But it seems to be necessary to achieve an equal level with the very quiet A380, despit
183 JBirdAV8r : You may know this already, so I'm sorry if you do. Engine noise isn't the primary driver of cabin noisiness, but the slipstream noise as air rushes o
184 CXB77L : I think the stretched upper deck looks fine because the wings have also been moved further back along the fuselage. In my view, as long as the upper
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