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Aircraft Too Large For Inverness Runway?  
User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3634 posts, RR: 3
Posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2633 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...orth-east-orkney-shetland-12444375

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User currently offlinebj87 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2592 times:

Sounds like someone didn't do their homework!!!

User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3552 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2318 times:

Hmm....noticed they didn't mention what kind of frame it was. INV is only 6,191 ft. My guess it would be a 321 maybe?


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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3552 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

But then again ABZ is only 6,000 ft usless they've finished the extension.


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User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5161 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 2):
Hmm....noticed they didn't mention what kind of frame it was. INV is only 6,191 ft. My guess it would be a 321 maybe?

Correct, A321.

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 3):
But then again ABZ is only 6,000 ft usless they've finished the extension.

Good point, although I guess the issue was probably taxiway or stand availability issues rather than runway length.



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User currently onlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1994 times:

I'm sure 757's operate from 6000ft runways all the time so i don't think that is the issue here.
In fact the 75 probably needs less that the 737-800 or A321 most of the time.


User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5161 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 5):
I'm sure 757's operate from 6000ft runways all the time so i don't think that is the issue here.
In fact the 75 probably needs less that the 737-800 or A321 most of the time.

The aircraft that normally operates these flights is a 757, however it was due to be operated by an A321 this time. The pilot refused to land at Inverness and diverted to Aberdeen instead.



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User currently offlinexdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 6):

What kind of WX conditions....?


User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2600 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1810 times:
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More to the story than has been discussed I think...

Back in the day nearly all AMM/FCA flights to/from Skiathos were operated by the A321, full load of 218 inbound, return to the UK had a tech stop in Thessaloniki unless there were exceptional circumstances (low load, tailwinds etc)

The A321 couldn't land at Skiathos in the wet, but the runway is ungrooved, and only 1685m long.

Inverness is grooved, and at 1887m shouldn't present any undue problems...

The A321's airfield performance is generally good, the only "performance" problems we encountered with it on the routes flown were when it was pushed to it's maximum range, it sometime could not carry enough fuel for the planned payload (fuel volume limited) and so sometimes had to offload baggage to bring the weight down.

Worth mentioning that those A321s all had their auxilliary tanks removed, so their fuel volume was a lower than certain other A321-200s out there. Mormally used to hit max fuel before reaching MTOW...


User currently onlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 6):
The aircraft that normally operates these flights is a 757, however it was due to be operated by an A321 this time.

Thanks for the clarification, i read the original story wrong. I thought it was a 757.


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