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BA 747-200s Final Years  
User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 668 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10763 times:

Where did British Airways operate their 747-200s in the last 5 or so years of their life with the airline?

What configuration where they in, and did they have PTV screens in Y?

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User currently offlinepoz2brs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10629 times:

I recall watching a TV show documenting the ferry flight of the last 747-236B to it's final destination in the desert. It was mentioned that it spent it's latter days flying the routes LHR-CAI and LHR-JFK.

User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10599 times:

BA 747 Classics didn't have PTVs in Y but did the first generation First Class suites introduced in 1996 and the Club World Cradle seats.

Final routes were mostly East Coast USA as well CAI and BOM (I think the final BA 742 service was BOM-LHR)


User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1386 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10525 times:

I flew LHR-SFO-LHR on a BA7 747-200 back in 1997, at the time the aircraft that flew that route had W class on the upper desk, 3 x 3 with a pull down screen at the front for video's. While it was economy, they still had the galley at the back of the cabin and a much more personal service due to the low steward to pax ratio.

I also flew the B741 on LHR-BOS-LHR around 1998

Pilot21



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User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10446 times:

I flew BOM-LHR on Aug 17, 2001 in Club World. They had PTV's for sure in Club World but I have no idea about Economy.

User currently offlinebombayhog From United States of America, joined May 2001, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10234 times:

They were operating these on LHR-BOS pretty regularly in those last years--last one I took was on that route in 2000 I believe. Used to love the economy cabin on the upper deck. No PTVs, as others have noted.

User currently onlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8514 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9928 times:
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Miami saw 747-200 until 2001.

User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9785 times:

The 747-200 I remember flying into Boston well into 2000. I remember seeing them on finals or taking off on their night flight back to LHR regularly from my dorm. VS and LHR were also flying the 742 there around the same time. Started seeing more 744's later on. Then of course, that's all she wrote. I'm sure that BOS was one of the last destinations.

UAL


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 61
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9699 times:

Quoting bombayhog (Reply 5):

They were operating these on LHR-BOS pretty regularly in those last years--last one I took was on that route in 2000 I believe. Used to love the economy cabin on the upper deck. No PTVs, as others have noted.


Yep - my last 742 flight was one G-BDXE into BOS in 2000. No PTVs in Y but glorious old birds My last Landor livery BA flight as well come to think of it - there's a pic in the database of her with a different colored nosecone and part of the number two nacelle in a lighter (new livery) blue.

Had Christmas dinner in Y - was wonderful. 



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineAdmiralRitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9605 times:

How much does an empty Shell of a 747-200 minus wings, Tailfin& stabiliizer cost.

If it isn't too much, A beach comunities with tourism should consider
converrting the frame into a Reef to create a marine habitat as a lure. probably breaking the plane
into 2-3 pieces would be best. The cost of removing the hazardous materials must be substantial,
proabably 1/3 the cost of a D-check is my guess.



Obcourse it would take a few years for their investment to a fully
viable attractiion for divers and glassbotttom boasts, or even tourist subs.


User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2104 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9422 times:

If I recall the 747-236B fleet was pretty much flying LHR to JFK, EWR, PHL, BOS, ORD, MIA, SEA, YVR, YYZ. Certainly the database has photos at all these locations, and I think IAD might have seen the 742 as well.


Let's Go British Caledonian!
User currently offlineNorthwest727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9389 times:

I recall seeing the BA 747 classics flying out of SEA everyday the last time I visited Seattle, circa spring 1998. Not sure where they went, most likely LHR.

User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1652 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9341 times:

They also came into DTW around 2000 along with some -100's.


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User currently offlineplanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 9138 times:

Did the 747-200s always have their own dedicated schedule or were they mixed in with the -400s? I remember at least three different trips I took (around 1999-2001), where I went out on a -400 and back on a -200 (Mauritius, Orlando and Vancouver).

User currently offlineSNfreak From Belgium, joined Feb 2005, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8634 times:

I wonder if the flightcrew were rated on the classic 747's and the 400's at the same time.
Anybody with some info about this ?



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8634 times:

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 3):
I also flew the B741 on LHR-BOS-LHR around 1998

BA 741s were also mainly used on LHR-East Coast US/Canada routes during their latter years of service. I remember flying on a BA 741 (my last flight on a 741) LHR-YMX (Montreal Mirabel, before international flights were moved back to YUL a year later) in July 1996. It was one of their oldest 741s, then 26 years old.


User currently offlineGBLKD From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8512 times:

I own a couple of pieces of G-BDXH I bought from here

http://www.1010global.org/uk

BA009 was an incredible story, odd to think a piece of that aeroplane is only a few feet away from me.


User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 545 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 8339 times:

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 3):
I flew LHR-SFO-LHR on a BA7 747-200 back in 1997

Just wondering, when did BA stop flying 747-200's to SFO?

I'm guessing they ran a mix of -200's and -400's in the late '90's, since you mentioned flying on a -200 in '97 and there's a pic in the database of a -400 taking off from SFO in '96. I could only find 3 pics of -200's in the database at SFO...from 1980, 1988, and 1999.

The pics I found:


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Photo © Peter Coe




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User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6928 times:

Quoting planesarecool (Reply 13):
Did the 747-200s always have their own dedicated schedule or were they mixed in with the -400s? I remember at least three different trips I took (around 1999-2001), where I went out on a -400 and back on a -200 (Mauritius, Orlando and Vancouver

The -200s overlapped with the -400 on a few routes like YVR and SEA and briefly on LGW routes when BA swapped the -200s based there with -400s in around 1998.


User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 668 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6890 times:

When did the -200s disappear from HKG and PER?

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7742 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6853 times:

Here is a list of the last revenue flightys of each of BA's 747 236 aircraft:

G-BDXA: 23 Jan 01. BOS-LHR. BA238
G-BDXB: 01 Oct 01. BOS-LHR. BA238
G-BDXC: 23 Jan 01. LHR-MIA. BA207. Diverted to MCO due to weather. Then ferried empty MCO-LHR.
G-BDXD: 04 Dec 99. ORD-LHR. BA298
G-BDXE: 29 Sep 01. BOM-LHR. BA138
G-BDXF: 01 Sep 01. LHR-SEA. BA049. Then ferried SEA-LGW.
G-BDXG: 30 Sep 01. BOS-LHR. BA214
G-BDXH: 30 Sep 01. MIA-LHR. BA208
G-BDXI: 13 Aug 01. BOM-LHR. BA138
G-BDXJ: 06 Oct 01. BOM-LHR. BA138
G-BDXK: 30 Sep 01. MIA-LHR. BA206
G-BDXL: 04 Oct 01. BOM-LHR. BA138
G-BDXM: 30 Apr 01. BOM-LHR. BA138
G-BDXN: 01 Oct 01. CAI-LHR. BA138
G-BDXO: 08 Oct 01. BOM-LHR. BA138. Last BA 747 236 revenue flight of any aircraft.
G-BDXP: 04 Feb 01. BOM-LHR. BA9124C. Charter flight

As an aside note how the retirement rate accelerated following 9/11. Six aircraft were retired in more than nine months between 01 Jan 01 and 11 Sep 01. But six were retired in just 28 days between 12 Sep 01 and 09 Oct 01.

Other destinations served in the final few months of 236 operations include SEA. (One of these aircraft was operating LHR-SEA on 9/11 and turned back in mid-Atlantic and diverted to BFS.)


User currently offlinewindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2334 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4069 times:

I remember I flew with a beautiful new colored 747-200 from Vancouver to London Heathrow in the summer of 1999... The engines made so much noise, it was not very pleasant 
And I do not recall PTV... At that time it was quite new.
But the approach was amazing I remember... This was also the summer when I watched DC-10s take off from Waikiki Beach. Hawaiian, American and United I remembered... Amazing time  

Boaz.



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User currently offlinetriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 763 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3689 times:
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I flew ORD-LHR in March 1987 on BA 296 which was a 747-200 Combi. The highlight of this flight was a cockpit visit in flight. The US carriers were not allowed to do this because the FAA prohibited it. I boarded the flight and asked an f/a if I could see the cockpit, and she told me the pilots were very busy right now, but after dinner I can see it. To which I responded, "in flight?" I was sure excited about that.
After dinner I asked a flight attendant if I could see the cockpit, but he told me captain was not allowing it. They've already turned some others away. I asked him if he would ask the captain, and he said he would but not to be disappointed if he says no. A few minutes later, someone tapped me at the seat and said, "Five minutes." That was quite a thrill. I found out from the captain that this particular aircraft, G-BLVF, City of Lancaster was a 747-200(236 for BA) Combi, leased from Middle East Airways. We were very heavy on takeoff. The captain said we were carrying an aircraft engine.
The return flight, BA 297 LHR-ORD, G-BDPV, City of Aberdeen was a 747-100 (136 for BA). I also got a visit to the cockpit in flight.
Although I've made hundreds of flights since then, mostly on an AA 777-200ER, I have very fond memories of my BA flights because I had not flown to Europe in 14 years. The inflight service was very nice, especially with the cockpit visits.



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User currently offlineBellerophon From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 585 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3468 times:

SNfreak

...I wonder if the flightcrew were rated on the classic 747's and the 400's at the same time. Anybody with some info about this ?...


The B747-400 series was classed as a different aircraft type to the B747-100/200/300 series by the UK CAA, and so a separate type-rating was required to fly it.

BA flight crews were not dual rated, and BA operated the two aircraft types as separate fleets, each with their own dedicated crews. I think that all other B747 operators did the same.

Best Regards

Bellerophon


User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 3):
I flew LHR-SFO-LHR on a BA7 747-200 back in 1997, at the time the aircraft that flew that route had W class on the upper desk, 3 x 3 with a pull down screen at the front for video's.

There was no W class on BA in 1997 (or ever on the 742).



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