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Air Transat And The Elusive Desert TriStars  
User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3199 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

Can anyone confirm whether the following L1011s ever flew with Transat? I suspect they were bought for spares and simply recovered parts from the desert as required but I would be curious to know why they all gained Canadian registrations.

C-FWCR c/n 1099
C-GTSY c/n 1037
C-GBBS c/n 1108
C-FTSI c/n 1032

Thanks!

[Edited 2011-02-18 06:19:26]

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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

None of the four (4) were never operated by Air Transat!

You are correct they were bought by Air Transat for spares.

I would assume they were Canadian registered to make the use of the spare part easier (less paper work hassle).


User currently offlineskysurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

C-FWCR c/n 1099 Jul 95 - Jun 02

C-GTSY c/n 1037 May 96 - Jan 99

C-GBBS c/n 1108 Apr 97 - Dec 97

C-FTSI c/n 1032 May 98 - Dec 00

Hope that clears things up for you  

Cheers

Stu

Oh, i forgot to add that I was only providing the dates at which the company had them on their books (just in case anyone thought I was saying TS flew them).

[Edited 2011-02-18 07:03:55]


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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

Thanks I got the dates from another source. I actually had them on my "hit list" of things to see but as they never entered revenue service I'm not quite as bothered that I never came across them. The ever elusive C-GTSK on the other hand I *did* miss!

Oddball that one, ex C-FTNB with AC but re-registered as TSC had already re-used C-FTNB for another ex EA machine.

In a similar vein, I am also assuming ROYAL never operated C-FYXI c/n 1107 and that this was a spares source as well?

[Edited 2011-02-18 08:56:56]

User currently offlineskysurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 3):
In a similar vein, I am also assuming ROYAL never operated C-FYXI c/n 1107 and that this was a spares source as well?

Considering they acquired it in 1996 and in July 1997 it was broken up at Quebec City, I would say you're correct.

Cheers

Oh, and C-GTSK eluded me too......left a right gap in the book!! Grrr



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 3):
In a similar vein, I am also assuming ROYAL never operated C-FYXI c/n 1107 and that this was a spares source as well?
Quoting skysurfer (Reply 4):
Considering they acquired it in 1996 and in July 1997 it was broken up at Quebec City, I would say you're correct.


Actually s/n 1107 (C-FYXI) was painted in Royal livery and operated by them for 7 months.


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Can't for the life of me track down a photo of C-FYXI, can anyone provide a link? Cheers!

User currently offlineskysurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 6):
Can't for the life of me track down a photo of C-FYXI, can anyone provide a link? Cheers!
http://www.eucomairlines.de/prodlist/msn107.html



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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1994 times:

This looks wrong, the Royal photo is missing the added strake on the number two engine....that's C-FTNI / K I think.

User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1758 times:
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Also the wing nacelles differ the later pictures seem to be untapered at the rear... was the a modification ?

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 9):
Also the wing nacelles differ the later pictures seem to be untapered at the rear... was the a modification ?

There were never any changes (modifications) to the wing nacells (or pylons). When RB-211-525 engines are installed the cover plate at the forward end of the plyon has a shorter/rounder fairing than those used the RB-211-22B's, but all the other parts are interchangeable.

However, there were three (3) different after bodies used on the RB-211 engines:

#1 Clam shell reversers.


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#2 11 degree after body.


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#3 15 degree after body
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