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User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1784 posts, RR: 3
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8081 times:

Hi. Earlier I had a debate with a colleague about Air France operations outside Paris. I argued that they operate very little (if at all) internationally from regional airports within France. Could someone confirm the extent to which the carrier does fly internationally from French airports other than Paris.

Thanks.


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User currently offlinePacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7979 times:

According to Airline Route Maps, Air France has non-stop international service, among other things:

From Marseilles to Amsterdam, Prague, Milan, Rome, Tunis, Algiers, Marakesh, Casablanca, and Lisbon.

From Lyon to Amsterdam, Lisbon, Geneva, Milan, Copenhagen, Brussels, Frankfort, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Madrid, Barcelona, Porto, Zurich. Bologna, Lisbon, London, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, and several other destinations.

From Nice to Amsterdam, Moscow, Milan, Rome, Tunis, Casablanca, and Lisbon.


User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 884 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7879 times:

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 1):
From Nice to Amsterdam, Moscow, Milan, Rome, Tunis, Casablanca, and Lisbon

All are code-share flights operated by KL, SU, AZ, I think that AF does not code-share anymore with AT and for sure not anymore with TU. No AF flights from NCE to LIS, only TP and no code-share

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 1):
From Marseilles to Amsterdam, Prague, Milan, Rome, Tunis, Algiers, Marakesh, Casablanca, and Lisbon

The same, code-shares operated by OK and KL. AF offers flights from MRS to TUN and ALG, not sure about CMN. No flights to Marrakech. AF doesn't fly anymore to Marrakech, now it is Transavia from ORY.

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 1):
From Lyon to Amsterdam, Lisbon, Geneva, Milan, Copenhagen, Brussels, Frankfort, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Madrid, Barcelona, Porto, Zurich. Bologna, Lisbon, London, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, and several other destinations.

AF has a strong regional hub at LYS, using a mix of ERJ and CRJ. No flights to Geneva for sure! It's only 1h by road.

Recently AF has a plan to start again , very soon, operations with A320s from TLS, NCE, MRS, BOD to domestic destinations and to Europe.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7838 times:

Air France doesn't operate any long haul flight from elsewhere in France than CDG but AF has a dense international network from various French provincial cities (NCE, LYS, MRS, BOD, TLS, SXB, NTE, CFE) to European and North African cities.
Most of these flights are operated by AF subsidiaries REGIONAL, and/or BRIT'AIR.

All AF domestic & International network from the regions can be found here :

http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/ne...-on-departure-from-french-regions/


User currently offlineAisak From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 763 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7826 times:

The only AF flights not starting or ending in Paris that I can think of, are the ones linking French territories in the Caribean and MIA (via several other islands using 5th freedom rights).

They had the odd LAX-LHR on behalf of Delta when Open Skies was approved but was later dropped. There was also a rumor here on A.net suggesting that AF could do all the LHR-JFK flying (as they do on CDG-JFK) due to their F class, but didn't materialise in the end.

Of course, as PacNWjet says, there is a lot of AF-branded flying from all over France but it's carried out though franchise agreements on Britair, Régional. The Irish carrier Cityjet also does some AF-coded flights from LCY to several airports in France and Europe.


User currently onlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3481 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7724 times:

Daily MRS-TUN with A32s. Daily LYS-TUN with A32s. Sat. and Sun. NCE-TUN with A32s.

User currently offlinejoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3169 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7447 times:

Is LYS-AMS still A318?

User currently offlineSexyAdonis From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7215 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
Air France doesn't operate any long haul flight from elsewhere in France than CDG but AF has a dense international network from various French provincial cities (NCE, LYS, MRS, BOD, TLS, SXB, NTE, CFE) to European and North African cities.
Most of these flights are operated by AF subsidiaries REGIONAL, and/or BRIT'AIR.

It is also important not to forget the Caribbean network. After all, Guadalupe and Martinique are both part of France (what we call the DOM) and hence the AF network does have international destinations from PTP and FDF to places like PAP, MIA, etc.

Sexy Adonis


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 5474 times:

Quoting joost (Reply 6):
Is LYS-AMS still A318?

LYS-AMS is operated 3 x Daily : 2 x ERJ190 + 1 x A318


User currently offlinecarl50mq From Martinique, joined Nov 2007, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 20 hours ago) and read 4819 times:

Martinique and Guadeloupe are DOM or French Overseas Departments...

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 4750 times:

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 1):
From Lyon to Amsterdam, Lisbon, Geneva, Milan, Copenhagen, Brussels, Frankfort, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Madrid, Barcelona, Porto, Zurich. Bologna, Lisbon, London, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, and several other destinations.

No Lyon-London, but there is a Lyon-Birmingham operated by one of AF's regional subsidaries



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User currently offlinecgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 15 hours ago) and read 3394 times:

AF started TLS-DUS in 2010 as well. I think 1x daily.


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User currently offlineocracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 681 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 14 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
Air France doesn't operate any long haul flight from elsewhere in France than CDG

In a way, AF does "operate" NCE-JFK. Yes, I know the paint job on that plane is DL, but because of ATI, AF views it as their "own" flight. They even list it on the map on the link you gave.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5169 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 13 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 8):

LYS-AMS is operated 3 x Daily : 2 x ERJ190 + 1 x A318

It seems not everyday on this equipment.

On my schedule later in the year on the warm welcoming CRK = CRJ1000



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User currently offlinegoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 13 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 1):

I haven't been to France yet but wouldn't the 320 be better to serve these routes instead of using the 380? i suppose it might carry more pax and save the airlines money in fuel but i just can't get it out of my mind how such a short distance it is on my World Map in my room.



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User currently offlineheathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 13 hours ago) and read 2359 times:

They opperate a 77W on LAX PPT. I would assume it goes from LAX back tp CDG after though

User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6652 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 13 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 14):
I haven't been to France yet but wouldn't the 320 be better to serve these routes instead of using the 380? i suppose it might carry more pax and save the airlines money in fuel but i just can't get it out of my mind how such a short distance it is on my World Map in my room.

I'm not sure what you're quoting in PacNWjet post, but if you're referring to the Paris-London A380 flights last summer, those where training flights for the crew (carrying lucky passengers).



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