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SAA 340 All White Today At LHR  
User currently offlineTFFIP From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 203 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6362 times:

How come this one is nude, but for the South African name?

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User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2152 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6282 times:

Most likely they just have not had time to paint it.

User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1803 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6267 times:

They're new to the South African fleet

ZS-SXG 378 Airbus A340-313X C38Y215 27 October 2010 F-WJKF
ZS-SXH 197 Airbus A340-313X C38Y215 29 November 2010 F-WJKP

They were placed into service rather quickly, so presumably just no time to paint them. Not sure if they're just temporary until more A330's come online?

http://www.planespotters.net/Airline/South-African-Airways


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 18 hours ago) and read 5436 times:
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They both seem to be ex-Iberia airplanes arent they ?

Since SA has already received its first A332 why do they take older A343 at the same time ?



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User currently offlinedennys From France, joined May 2001, 878 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 4951 times:

Very surprising . i thought SAA was introducing A332s but for sure no more A340s .

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11638 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 8 hours ago) and read 4840 times:

I believe not too long ago they came close to ordering more brand new A340s, -600HGWs IIRC. Contrary to what is often banded about on this forum, there are a select group of situations where having four engines can actually be an advantage, SAA and their JNB hub are one of these.


Dan  



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User currently offlinedennys From France, joined May 2001, 878 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4328 times:

To Dan

I believe that quads are still needed for links to and from JNB
and i do love A340s in SAA colours. ! 330s is just a Twin fashion to my eyes


User currently offlinev1valarob From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4199 times:

IAD has had all white SAA A340s the past few days.

User currently offlineweebie From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

It's been in Perth a lot recently. ex Iberia also still has Iberia interior.

User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4076 times:

Has anyone determined the reason these A343X's are operating for SA?

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11638 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Quoting dennys (Reply 6):
I believe that quads are still needed for links to and from JNB

On many routes yes.

Quoting weebie (Reply 8):
ex Iberia also still has Iberia interior.

Is is still in IB's configuration as well?


Dan  



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User currently offlineSAA201 From South Africa, joined May 2001, 512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

The 2 extra A340's were replacements for the last of the B747-400 fleet which was finally retired from the fleet recently. They will also allow for medium term growth on key markets and to allow for new routes to be explored.

User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

How long does it take to paint a plane? Flying a naked plane would be a non starter for all first rate carriers.

User currently offlinepsimpson From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2921 times:

Both these ex Iberia A340s will have the full paint scheme and interior refurb within the next 3 months once the A332's start arriving and operational pressure will allow these aircraft extended down time. They were pressed into service to allow the retirement of the last B744 last year.

User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2707 times:

There's quite a difference between SAA's older A342s and their newer A343s and A346s (more legroom, PTV etc), so these IB birds will temporarily add another configuration to their fleet! I presume they'll get the better interior of the latter?


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25106 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 12):
How long does it take to paint a plane? Flying a naked plane would be a non starter for all first rate carriers.

Major airlines have often operated aircraft for fairly long periods before getting around to painting them. For example, the Southwest 737-700 below operated for more than a year with only the name on the tail (2nd photo) after it was acquired from Ford Motor Company (used as an employee shuttle between their facilities in Europe). Originally delivered to Braathens in Norway before going to Ford.


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User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2253 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 15):
Major airlines have often operated aircraft for fairly long periods before getting around to painting them.

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I always felt that it was a poor reflection on the brand but I am in the minority on this one.


User currently offlinebrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1625 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 16):
Interesting, thanks for sharing. I always felt that it was a poor reflection on the brand but I am in the minority on this one.

It's an even poorer reflection on the airline if flights have to be canceled due to unavailability of aircraft. Few fliers will "jump carriers" because a plane is all-white -- many more will if their flights are canceled.

CX for a while flew 744s painted in the CX scheme outside, but with the full SQ interior (interim before they were refitted with the new CX interior).



I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
User currently offlinepcbm From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

These recently leased two ex iberia 340-300 aircraft ex IBERIA. still sport the Iberia interiors are are not due for upgrade till August 11 if the wedbsite is to be believed.

Differnces from SAA other 340-300 are

- Economy seat pitch is NOT the normal SAA 34” on 340-300
- Economy has NO personal TV
- Business is NOT Flat bed – but Lie Flat at an angel and the pitch is significantly tighter
- Business does NOT have on demand entertainment.

To see where these aircraft are: look up tail number ZS-SXG and ZS-SXH on www.flightaware.com. Looks like one arrived from JFK today the other is on its way to GRU.

The SAA website is sneaky in its description of the 340-300, now describing business as "slightly offset not 180 degrees" and by saying "except for two aircraft due for fitting of new seats by August 2011"


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