PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 12008 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5123 times:
I believe not too long ago they came close to ordering more brand new A340s, -600HGWs IIRC. Contrary to what is often banded about on this forum, there are a select group of situations where having four engines can actually be an advantage, SAA and their JNB hub are one of these.
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SAA201 From South Africa, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3610 times:
The 2 extra A340's were replacements for the last of the B747-400 fleet which was finally retired from the fleet recently. They will also allow for medium term growth on key markets and to allow for new routes to be explored.
psimpson From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3204 times:
Both these ex Iberia A340s will have the full paint scheme and interior refurb within the next 3 months once the A332's start arriving and operational pressure will allow these aircraft extended down time. They were pressed into service to allow the retirement of the last B744 last year.
AirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2990 times:
There's quite a difference between SAA's older A342s and their newer A343s and A346s (more legroom, PTV etc), so these IB birds will temporarily add another configuration to their fleet! I presume they'll get the better interior of the latter?
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27756 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2583 times:
Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 12): How long does it take to paint a plane? Flying a naked plane would be a non starter for all first rate carriers.
Major airlines have often operated aircraft for fairly long periods before getting around to painting them. For example, the Southwest 737-700 below operated for more than a year with only the name on the tail (2nd photo) after it was acquired from Ford Motor Company (used as an employee shuttle between their facilities in Europe). Originally delivered to Braathens in Norway before going to Ford.
brenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1840 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2527 times:
Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 16): Interesting, thanks for sharing. I always felt that it was a poor reflection on the brand but I am in the minority on this one.
It's an even poorer reflection on the airline if flights have to be canceled due to unavailability of aircraft. Few fliers will "jump carriers" because a plane is all-white -- many more will if their flights are canceled.
CX for a while flew 744s painted in the CX scheme outside, but with the full SQ interior (interim before they were refitted with the new CX interior).
pcbm From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
These recently leased two ex iberia 340-300 aircraft ex IBERIA. still sport the Iberia interiors are are not due for upgrade till August 11 if the wedbsite is to be believed.
Differnces from SAA other 340-300 are
- Economy seat pitch is NOT the normal SAA 34” on 340-300
- Economy has NO personal TV
- Business is NOT Flat bed – but Lie Flat at an angel and the pitch is significantly tighter
- Business does NOT have on demand entertainment.
To see where these aircraft are: look up tail number ZS-SXG and ZS-SXH on www.flightaware.com. Looks like one arrived from JFK today the other is on its way to GRU.
The SAA website is sneaky in its description of the 340-300, now describing business as "slightly offset not 180 degrees" and by saying "except for two aircraft due for fitting of new seats by August 2011"