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Exactly What Is Republic?  
User currently offlineflyerboy1990 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 177 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

I am utterly confused by Republic Airways and its various brands. From what I understand, it owns Frontier, Chautauqua, Shuttle America while operating some flights under its own name. Is this right? I have some questions:

Why and how has it bought these airlines ($$$, etc.)?
Has this changed F9 (positive, neg)? Frontier brought good things to my home airport CAK.
Why does it have so many types of aircraft (RJs)?
Does it plan to sell off any of the brands?

I know there is a thread about what is currently happening with Republic, but it isn't answering my questions.

Thanks!
Aaron


Flown in: 712, 722, 73G, 738, 752, DC10, CR2, CR9, A319, A320 Want to fly in: A330, 767, 777, MD80, E170 series
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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25323 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3243 times:
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I'm not sure what is confusing - or rather, I'm not sure how to make it clearer than it is.

Republic Airways Holdings (RAH) is a holding company (financial owner) that owns, as you point out, several airlines, in the same way that AMR Corporation (a holding company) owns two airlines - American Airlines and American Eagle.

Republic Airways Holdings (RAH) does not operate any aircraft or flights in it's own name - it is not an airline. It does own Republic Airlines, which operates flights and aircraft.

Quoting flyerboy1990 (Thread starter):
Why and how has it bought these airlines ($$$, etc.)?

Why? To make money. It's regional business is contract flying for other airlines, mostly legacy. RAH's branded operation is Frontier. How? In the case of Frontier they won the bid for Frontier at the auction.

RAH has expanded Frontier and by joining it up with Midwest, which it also bought, has given it three hubs and a focus city.

Quoting flyerboy1990 (Thread starter):
Has this changed F9 (positive, neg)? Frontier brought good things to my home airport CAK.

Depends who you listen to. I think it is very good for Frontier, because I don't think the "old" independent Frontier could have survived with its single hub at DEN.

Quoting flyerboy1990 (Thread starter):
Why does it have so many types of aircraft (RJs)?

Because each of the different subsidiary airlines (Shuttle America, Chautauqa, Republic Airlines, etc) - and Frontier - have different needs. In fact, it is not that many types.

Quoting flyerboy1990 (Thread starter):
Does it plan to sell off any of the brands?

Not to my knowledge. There are rumors that it will acquire another airline later this year.

mariner



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User currently offlineYXwatcherMKE From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 2):
Not to my knowledge. There are rumors that it will acquire another airline later this year.

mariner


What airline would that be? Or is that a big dark secret that no one is saying anything about? LOL



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User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5531 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

Republic looks to me like a savvy bunch - their work with Frontier looks pretty wise so far.


...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25323 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3065 times:
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Quoting YXwatcherMKE (Reply 3):
What airline would that be? Or is that a big dark secret that no one is saying anything about? LOL

It's what I believe is called "noise."  

mariner



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6489 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

A closer (though much larger) analog to Republic is Texas Air, which had Continental, Eastern, NY Air, Frontier (the first), Texas International, PeopleExpress, and a bunch of feeders. It then proceeded to consolidate and dismantle many of those airlines, eventually leaving us with what we know of today as Continental.


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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2998 times:

Here is a more detailed explanation for you:

Republic Airways Holdings, Inc., is a holding company which currently owns five fully certificated airlines:

Chautauqua Airlines
Republic Airlines
Shuttle America
Frontier Airlines
Lynx Aviation

As for the history of Republic and how it became what it is today, the following should be a fairly accurate recount:

- RAH grew out of Chautauqua Airlines, which was originally established in 1973 as a regional airilne that was one of the original Allegheny Commuter carriers, operating under that brand name (eventually becoming US Airways Express). Chautauqua was acquired by Wexford Management in 1998.

- Wexford acquired Shuttle America out of bankruptcy in the early 2000s. Shuttle had previously been an independent regional operating in the Northeast, but became another US Airways Express operator under Wexford ownership.

- Republic Airlines was established in 2004 to take over the operation of the E170 aircraft previously operated by US Airways subsidiary MidAtlantic.

- In 2004, Chautauqua and Republic were organized under Republic Airways Holdings, Inc., and spun off as an IPO.

- In 2005, RAH acquired Shuttle America from Wexford, and Shuttle assumed operation of the E-170 aircraft from Chautauqua due to violations of Chautauqua's scope clause with AA.

From this point forward, RAH was the owner of three separate regional airlines. The reason for these separate companies was, quite simply, scope due to their contracts with other airlines. AA prohibits Chautauqua from operating any aircraft with greater than 50 seats for anybody. Shuttle America is currently restricted to aircraft no larger than 76 seats due to its agreements with DL and UA. Republic's scope is limited to 99 seats per its contract with US.

In 2007, RAH signed a contract with Frontier Airlines to provide regional services (operated by Republic Airlines). The 11-year agreement was terminated in early 2008 due to Frontier's filing for Ch. 11 bankruptcy protection.

In fall of 2008, RAH signed an agreement with TPG and Midwest Airlines to provide contract services with both the E-170 and E-190 aircraft, as well as financing for the struggling airline.

In June of 2009, RAH announced it was purchasing Midwest from TPG. The following October, Republic acquired Frontier through the bankruptcy court. RAH returned the remaining Boeing 717s in the Midwest fleet to Boeing (a process which had started before the acquisition), and dissolved Midwest as a certificated airline (however, flights continued to be operated under the Midwest brand by Republic flights). RAH announced their intentions to merge Midwest and Frontier, with Frontier as the surviving brand name.

So, as it stands now, what started as a small regional airline in New York is now a holding company with ownership of several airlines:

Chautauqua Airlines (RP/CHQ)
Operating as: American Connection, Continental Express, US Airways Express, Frontier Airlines
Fleet: Embraer ERJ-135, 140, 145

Shuttle America Airlines (S5/TCF)
Operating as: Delta Connection, United Express
Fleet: Embraer 170, 175
(Acquired in 1998)

Republic Airlines (RW/RPA)
Operating as: Frontier Airlines, US Airways Express
Fleet: Embraer 170, 175, 190
(Established in 2004)

Frontier Airlines (F9/FFT)
Operating as: Frontier Airlines
Fleet: Airbus A318, A319, A320
(Acquired in 2009)

Lynx Aviation (L3/SSH)
Operating as: Frontier Airlines
Fleet: Dash-8 Q400
(Acquired in 2009, subsidiary of Frontier)



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineflyerboy1990 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Thanks JBo, that's exactly what I wanted. Ultimately, I just wanted to know how RAH came to acquire these carriers and what was going on with the contract flying with the majors.


Flown in: 712, 722, 73G, 738, 752, DC10, CR2, CR9, A319, A320 Want to fly in: A330, 767, 777, MD80, E170 series
User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

I may not be exactly accurate on all the dates and such, but it should be a pretty good idea of how it evolved.


I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineCessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

"A closer (though much larger) analog to Republic is Texas Air, which had Continental, Eastern, NY Air, Frontier (the first), Texas International, PeopleExpress, and a bunch of feeders. It then proceeded to consolidate and dismantle many of those airlines, eventually leaving us with what we know of today as Continental."

I wouldn't say "it", rather I would say "Frank Lorenzo". That's the dirty word in the airline business.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5065 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 1):
There are rumors that it will acquire another airline later this year.

I have heard this rumor too. I wonder who is attractive and affordable though? Anyone want to take some guesses?



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User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5531 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

Quoting Cessna172RG (Reply 9):

I wouldn't say "it", rather I would say "Frank Lorenzo". That's the dirty word in the airline business.

Almost as "dirty" as the IAM?



...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Also Lynx is no longer around. It is now part of Republic Airlines. However we that are current RW inflight crew will not be trained on the Q400. Although it is in our Manual. Go figure.


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