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TAM Orders 22 A320neo & 2 773ER  
User currently offlineatnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 606 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12471 times:

Just announced by Airbus. Congrats to TAM and Airbus. Wonder if they are thinking about the LATAM merger and will this mean more orders to follow? The MoU is for 22 A320neos and 10 A320s. Although it's "only" a MoU, I have no doubt we can consider these basically as orders.

TAM becomes first A320neo customer in Latin America

It seems the A320neo will easily make the 500 order by Paris.

Also, TAM orders 2 extra 773ERs. Congrats to Boeing as well!

"Boeing (NYSE: BA) and TAM Linhas Aereas (NYSE: TAM) today announced the Brazilian carrier ordered two additional 777-300ERs (extended range) with two purchase rights. Today's order, valued at approximately $568 million at current list prices, brings the total number of 777s TAM has on order to 12."

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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1619 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12472 times:

Congrats to Airbus and TAM!  
Quoting atnight (Thread starter):
It seems the A320neo will easily make the 500 order by Paris.


Indeed!



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User currently offlineatnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12378 times:

Also announced by TAM Linhas Aéreas:

"TAM invests US$ 3.2 billion in new aircraft to meet growing market demand":

Líbano Barroso, the CEO of TAM Linhas Aéreas states, "We announce today the order of 32 aircraft from the Airbus A320 Family and two Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. We will use the new aircraft to renew and expand the fleet, which will strengthen our operations in both the domestic and international markets. With this order, we prepare the company to meet the growing demand for air travel, while maintaining the high level of services offered to our customers. The combined value of these new orders, based on list prices, is approximately US$ 3.2 billion."
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User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12075 times:

Quoting atnight (Thread starter):
It seems the A320neo will easily make the 500 order by Paris.

AirAsia is also signaling a NEO order or a conversion from the existing A320 orders.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...st-after-deferring-deliveries.html


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11663 times:

T7s and NEOs, very nice order!


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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4762 posts, RR: 39
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11604 times:
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Quoting PPVRA (Reply 4):
T7s and NEOs, very nice order!

A very nice order indeed. Congrats to all involved in this nice deal.  .


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11440 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11400 times:
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They just announce that on their conference call. TAM released 4Q results with a FY 2010 profit of US$ 390 million.
Margin on 4Q was 6.8% and Cash BRL 2.5 billion (USD 1.6 billion). Debt is now 3.8 times the EBITDAR (up from 6.5 times in 2009). They are now with a good hedge position: 25% coverage with average US$ 87 p/b

Problems: increased expenses, more expense increase to come this year and a lot of pressure on the domestic market.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11322 times:
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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
They just announce that on their conference call. TAM released 4Q results with a FY 2010 profit of US$ 390 million.

Excellent!

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
Problems: increased expenses, more expense increase to come this year and a lot of pressure on the domestic market.

Well the major problem right now is fuel prices, hope they begin to go down soon.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10748 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11272 times:

Nice to hear TAM is doing well. Unrealistically I´d rather wished for more A345s though.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 7):
Well the major problem right now is fuel prices, hope they begin to go down soon.

They will when Ghaddafi falls, amatter of days I hope. Just panic as always.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11440 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11059 times:
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Quoting na (Reply 8):
Nice to hear TAM is doing well. Unrealistically I´d rather wished for more A345s though.

The 2 A345 are expected to be returned to the lessor by the end of 2012.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 7):
Well the major problem right now is fuel prices, hope they begin to go down soon

TAM faces strong competition that could be even more severe with WebJet and Azul becoming public and raising additional cash. They will come with stronger expansion plans which could lead to more competition and diluted yields.



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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10963 times:

Quoting atnight (Thread starter):
"Boeing (NYSE: BA) and TAM Linhas Aereas (NYSE: TAM) today announced the Brazilian carrier ordered two additional 777-300ERs (extended range) with two purchase rights. Today's order, valued at approximately $568 million at current list prices, brings the total number of 777s TAM has on order to 12."

Inadvertantly, this announcement also 'announces' TAM as the buyer behind 2 UFO 773ER's (as many here suspected). Currently, Boeing's O&D website attributes TAM with 8, not 10 773ER orders. . .


Regards,

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User currently offlineHAL9k From Norway, joined Feb 2011, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10638 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 9):
The 2 A345 are expected to be returned to the lessor by the end of 2012.

The number of stored A345 will be joined by some friends.... Airbus has 2 stored (unsold I guess as they use a A346 as developement a/c). There is one more stored (yet delivered??) for the Govrnment of Tunisia (...right...) and three more on hold (msn 886, 894 and 1191)....


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10328 times:
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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 6):
TAM released 4Q results with a FY 2010 profit of US$ 390 million.

It's still a very good profit for 2010 and very close to LAN's. LAN reported net income of US$419.7 million for full year 2010, an increase of 81.6% compared to full year 2009!

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 9):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 7):
Well the major problem right now is fuel prices, hope they begin to go down soon

TAM faces strong competition that could be even more severe with WebJet and Azul becoming public and raising additional cash. They will come with stronger expansion plans which could lead to more competition and diluted yields.

LAN and TAM would be able to counter that with the combination!


User currently offlinetonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1026 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8909 times:

What is the point of TAM investing if the current brazillian airport / airspace can't support airline growth? The projects are so slow going.

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8873 times:
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Quoting tonytifao (Reply 13):
What is the point of TAM investing if the current brazillian airport / airspace can't support airline growth? The projects are so slow going.

The B77Ws will allow TAM to increase capacity on certain routes at Brasil's most congested airport, GRU.


User currently offlinedavs5032 From United States of America, joined exactly 4 years ago today! , 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8770 times:

Quoting na (Reply 8):
They will when Ghaddafi falls, amatter of days I hope. Just panic as always.

The mid-east was unstable before the Ghaddafi situation, and it will continue to be unstable after it is settled. Prices are more likely to rise than fall in the near future.


User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7413 times:

Where do you guys think the extra 777s will be deployed?

User currently offlinecopa330200 From Panama, joined Jan 2011, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7187 times:

excellent news   

according to Aifleets TAM has right now 4 773, do you know the schedule to deliver the new birds ??



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User currently offlinetommytoyz From Tonga, joined Jan 2007, 1353 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7074 times:

Quoting tonytifao (Reply 13):
What is the point of TAM investing if the current brazillian airport / airspace can't support airline growth? The projects are so slow going.

This an interesting topic. The infrastructure improvements and plans are gigantic for Brazil. Look at the Sao Paolo airport plans and the one for a second airport. Brazil has some catching up to do and they are moving stuff around. For now, the Sao Paolo airport has to be the worst airport to fly in and out of for me. But that should change.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2912 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6747 times:
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And a fresh new livery I hope to go with this new order!

Nonetheless, I like TAM and the service. I love first class on the 777. She is a beautiful machine. And even though the have grand ma's floral pattern on the seats, the red and tan with gold is such a refreshing change from blue and blue and blue. The C seats are angled lie flats, but they are among the most comfortable lie flats.

But TAM needs some A320's with F class. I think they have some but need more!



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11440 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6572 times:
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Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 16):
Where do you guys think the extra 777s will be deployed?

I think the two markets where they need more the 77W are MXP and CDG. The first to increase capacity, the second to allow furhter expansion (they can just change 3 A332 with 1 77W + A332 or 1 77W + A345, both situations will release valuable 2 A332 for new markets)

Lets see first what they will do with 1 A332 that is coming later this year.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days ago) and read 6474 times:
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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 20):
Lets see first what they will do with 1 A332 that is coming later this year.

Will JJ deploy it on GRU-LIM or GRU-BOG?


User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 585 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6172 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 21):
Will JJ deploy it on GRU-LIM or GRU-BOG?

Actually TAM has already requested permission to deploy the A330 on the GRU-LIM-GRU route beginning this year. The new GRU-BOG service just started two/three months ago so the A320 should work well for them for the time being. Plus, TAM's CEO has stated that they intend to develop a hub at LIM.

Regards,



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6156 times:
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Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 22):
Plus, TAM's CEO has stated that they intend to develop a hub at LIM.

That's correct; IMO perhaps GIG-LIM will be next. Hopefully LP will launch LIM-CNF and/or LIM-CWB. LIM-CWB would be a great addition to the LIM hub.


User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 585 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6097 times:

In my opinion a LIM-GIG-LIM service (either operated by LAN PERU or TAM) is more necessary than a LIM-CWB service (which of course should be launched later).


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25 SCL767 : LAN likes to be the first one there, so to speak. GIG has many international services, whereas CWB has limited international services. I wouldn't rul
26 Burkhard : GIG-LIM on A319 or A320 is a non-brainer. Currently TAM is the preferred way to fly from FRA to LIM, many Peruvians on every 77W to GRU. A connection
27 SCL767 : LP/LA offer 6 weekly flights between LIM and FRA via MAD. When Lufthansa reinstates FRA-LIM later this year, (A346); will this still hold true?
28 IDISA : I do agree 100%. MXP has an enormous potential for JJ in Italy. The first, and more logical, step is to switch from the A345 to te 77W. The 77W burns
29 LipeGIG : I don't think so. The best would be, in my view: 1) Introduce GIG-SCL with A332 (there will be a free A332 at GIG) 2) Replace the 77W on GRU-SCL in f
30 SCL767 : Cargo is especially important for LAN and I do not think JJ will take the B77W off of the GRU-SCL route as yet. I really do hope that LA decides to o
31 RAGAZZO777 : Amen to that ! IMO LAN should order some 777's to use them on routes such as LIM/SCL-Europe.
32 SCL767 : They could be used for SCL-MAD route, but LA will eventually need to replace the A340s that operate the SCL-AKL-SYD route.
33 bmibaby737 : Does anyone know when are the next Boeing 777-300ERs are due for delivery? bmi
34 SJOtoLIR : TA also gets the traffic rights to operate CWB for the time being. Regards.
35 LipeGIG : LA can help them as well as they can manage the cargo thru GIG. This helps also to be able to increase capacity to other markets. Remember JJ will ne
36 VC10er : What is the status of their interior redesign with Pristman/Goode in the UK? They are the same agency that did the new Swiss seat. I would think they
37 WestWing : If this is the December 05 2008 order, then it also means that the 787 orders on the same day (originally 15x787-8, now two converted to -9s) are for
38 jfk777 : Is TAM ever going to fly their 777 to Miami or JFK ? All TAM's US flights are A330-200, decnt planes but not 777-300ER's.
39 SJOtoLIR : JJ GRU-MIA, JJ GRU-JFK and JJ GIG-JFK are regularly operated with 330. JJ GIG-MIA does utlize the 763. Regards.
40 VC10er : They don't have many 767's, something like 3. Did they renovate the interiors to match the A330 or the 777's? Or are they the oooold interiors and sea
41 RodRB : old interiors and seats....
42 Avianca : well they have often good prices so why not also in the future! Also LH is selling with TA codeshare a lot of tickets via GRU to MUC and FRA ex Lima
43 Post contains links PPVRA : A bit outdated but for what it's worth: "The airline is planning to bring 'an enormous amount' of aircraft into service, says Hawes, who adds that ne
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