United747-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2770 times:
Talking statistically again, you are more likely to die in a car than in a commercial airliner. It's just it's a much bigger deal when an airplane crashed than when there's a pileup or such. I am 14 and I have flown literally hundreds of times. Very fun!
Aircanman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2735 times:
I am a private pilot and I still can be apprehensive before taking a commercial flight. It is normal to feel nervous when we are not in total control of a situation. I just remember that the pilot has the same "desire to live" as I do and that he is also many times more skilled than I.
Jarek From Poland, joined May 2001, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2728 times:
I am also afraid of flying. During last 5 years I took more than 450 flights. Everything was OK (I wasn't afraid) till some morning last year. I flew on the very morning flight 5:30 AM from TLV to WAW. After breakfest I layed accros 3 seats to catch some sleep. At the moment I was falling asleep it started to shake (normal turbulences). The combination of falling asleep and turbulences created strong enough feeling of getting scared. It stayes till now.
Ryanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3222 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2721 times:
What you ahve to realise is that your current fear of flying is a more powerful feeling than any apprehension you will feel on the plane. On the plane, you might feel a bit nervous on takeoff and landing, but just read a book or something and realise that air travel is simply the safest way of getting from A to B. Enjoy your holiday, and don't worry about the flight!
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
SPRINGBOK From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 192 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2721 times:
Dont worry mate, isn't flying supposed to be the safest way to travel.
I was scared of flying about 5 years ago, but then we we went on holiday to California, and i was stuck on a BA 747-400 for 11 hours. I soon got over my fear!
Hope i helped
Delta73Spilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2694 times:
let me try to give you a pilot's perspective on flying! While knowing that it will probably not make you overcome your fear like magic, I hope you will realize that there really is nothing to worry about!
I have been flying sinceI was a kid, and been a pilot since I was 18 years old. Currently I am a pilot for Delta Air Lines.
I am sure you know about the statistics so I will not even dwell on that! The numbers speak for themselves.
Rest assured that the guys in the cocpit have families and loved ones, and have no desire to do anything that would present any danger to their lives. We love our job because it is one of the most rewarding jobs in the world, and we undergo continuous training to ensure that we are capable of performing to the highest standards. At the same time, our airplanes undergo exceptional maintenance inspections, and are built so well, with double, triple and many times quadruple redunancy!
It is a logical assumption that in a machine so complex as an modern jet, some things will occasionaly malfunction. Those procedures are called abnormals, and every single possibility is outlined in special manuals, and take my word for it, we train on how to deal with those scenarios constantly,believe me, they are more of a nuisance than anything else. Each system has so many backups, that when something isn't performing as intended, it is so easily replaced with it's backup with no loss whatsoever of any of our capabilities! Plus, we will never push back from the gate, where maintenance is available, before they repair or replace the culprit, remember we are not only responsible for your safety as well as ours, but also we do not like the extra workload and/or inconvenience that an inoperative item may cause.
Even a big item like an engine failure, which would require a little more attention than a regular abnormal, is so frequently practised in the simulator,that is nothing more than an inconvenience to the passengers, us and the company!
In flight, we take personal pride into offering our passengers the most comfortable ride humanly possible. That starts with gentle manipulation of the autopilot available modes so as avery transition and turn is as smooth as possible, and extends further into using our onboerd radar, other pilot reports and constant nagging to the Air Traffic Controller for altitudes and routes that will offer the least amount of turbulence, which by the way, is nothing more than bumpy air that has no way of posing any threat to the safety of the flight! Sometimes though, flight through an area of turbulence is unavoidable, and then it is purely an inconvenience to you as well as us that have to be careful while sipping our coffee so we don't spill any on our white shirts!
I make it a point, every time I walk the terminal to board the plane, to spend an extra milute at the gate and just look around at all "MY" passengers for the next few hours, knowing full well that they will be my responsibility for the flight, and there is great pride into trying to make it not only a safe and comfortable flight but an enjoyable one!
And remember, when we are up there we are not alone! In our fingertips we have available so many expert people, from maintenance experts, weather advisors, even doctors, that are a radio call away, to share their expertise with us to help us resolve any situation.
I hope I did.t bore you with it, but I love flying, and it makes me happy when I can make another person share that love with me, and hear him as I am standing at the door when they are deplaning say " Great flight"
Enjoy your holiday!
Trickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (14 years 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2685 times:
Delta73Spilot said: I hope I did.t bore you with it...
Bore me! What! I was hoping your description wouldn't end. I really enjoyed reading that! Thanks for reassuring even the assured.
I have flown many flights myself but, admittedly, sometimes I still get nervous, particularly during takeoff (that sinking feeling I get when the wheels leave the ground). And then usually after having been in the air for a good minute or so, then I start relaxing a bit more and look forward to the rest of the flight, particularly from the initial approach aaaaaaaall the way until landing and can you believe it even taxiing.
But the part you said (as well as a few others) about the pilots having and wanting to come back to their own families is probably the best assurance any passenger can ever have. I think seeing and being with one's family outweighs all of the statistics I have read about flying. Can you imagine a nervous flyer overhearing a pilot before a flight saying to a peer: "Boy, I can't wait to get back home to see my kid. I'm supposed to play baseball with him." Now wouldn't hearing something like that come one's nerves a bit. It sure would relax the hell out of me.
Also, as a side note, this past week my fiends and I were listening to ATC transmissions from different airports. As everybody knows, pilots do their best in getting us from one place to another in the most comfortable manner. And nothing magnifies this more than listening to transmissions of how all of this really takes place. So from now on, after every flight, I will make an effort to reach out and shake the pilots' hands and tell them what a damn good job they did to get us to our favorite vacation spot or back home! In the past I have always just asked them what runway we landed on or "How were the winds today?" or "How much fuel do you think is left?" I think they desrve a little more than a technical question every now and then.
Have a good one!
Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
PIT_flyer007 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (14 years 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2675 times:
After flying for years I really only get nervous during flights on smaller aircraft. One of the flights I had on a Fokker 50 from AMS to BRE illustrated this, as it was a very bumpy and rough flight. I especially hated it when the plane would quickly jerk to one side or dip and the motors make a weird "bbbbRRRRzzz" sound! Though one flight my mom took from the small north German city of Bremerhaven to the vacation island of Helgoland in the North Sea was quite frightening. It was a tiny propellor(sp) plane and the airstrip at Helgoland is very thin and it lays at a spot that gets tremendous cross-winds from many directions that can make for a VERY bumpy landing.
Fritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2763 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (14 years 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2667 times:
Reply to message posted by: PIT_flyer007
I actually think that the Fokker 50's are stable aircrafts, even when it is windy. I experienced the softest landing in my life when flying with a Scandinavian Airliners Fokker 50. I didn't even know that the aircraft had touched down until I felt the brakes even though it was a crosswind landing.