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Ethiopian Airlines To Start Hangzhou Via Delhi  
User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2975 posts, RR: 24
Posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6919 times:

According to the GDS, effective S11 Ethiopian airlines has announced 5 weekly ADD-HGH via DEL, while ADD - PEK will go non stop on a B777-200LR.

ET 688 ADD - DEL 0025 0850
---------- DEL - HGH 0950 1805 Ex - We, Fr

ET 688 HGH - DEL 2130 0200+1 Ex - We, Fr
---------- DEL - ADD 0300 0700 Ex - Th, Sa

Aircraft: B767-300ER

On the very same day ADD - PEK goes non stop

ET 604 ADD - PEK 0005 1530
ET 605 PEK - ADD 2230 0600+1

Daily B777-200LR service

1) ADD-PEK via DEL was a daily service with 5th rights on 4 days of the week. Now DEL - PEK will only have Air China operating 4 weekly flights.

2) DEL - HGH rights are not yet confirmed, some information suggests they will have DEL - HGH rights on certain days.


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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2161 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6887 times:

Wow! ADDPEK nonstop. Exciting times for ET.

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6822 times:

Sorry if this is a silly question, but what type of traffic is ET going after? Is there an Ethiopian colony in Hangzhou? Are there substantial business ties between Addis Ababa and Hangzhou?


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User currently offlinesq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6803 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 1):
Sorry if this is a silly question, but what type of traffic is ET going after? Is there an Ethiopian colony in Hangzhou? Are there substantial business ties between Addis Ababa and Hangzhou?

I believe HGH is a city of industry, and there are tons of lucrative Chinese business interests in Ethiopia and beyond in Africa.



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User currently offlinedkny From Ethiopia, joined Mar 2004, 714 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6765 times:

ET will also start Milan in mid june. BRU flights will stop in Milan 5 times a week. Any news on YYZ

User currently offlinejetsetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6656 times:

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
Now DEL - PEK will only have Air China operating 4 weekly flights.

This is a surprisingly low frequency between two large cities! Currently, CA operates the flight with a 763


User currently offlineswissair4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6418 times:

I think its ridiculous that no chinese mainland carriers from BOM non-stop to either PVG/PEK/CAN etc...

DEL has CA, CZ, MU etc...

From what I have witnessed on several occasions, large amount of pax do go to china from BOM....especially, the finance industry.

I know AI has a service, but that's about it.

Can we expect any more chinese carriers to open BOM? CZ would do very well on a BOM-CAN or BOM-PVG and CA on BOM-DEL?


User currently offlineIAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6385 times:

ET serves PEK, CAN, HKG, and now HGH. Why did it choose HGH over PVG?

User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6348 times:

Hangzhou is located very close to Shanghai, but really PVG should have been the chosen one. HGH can be seen as an alternative airport close to Shanghai, a bit like Frankfurt Hahn to Frankfurt say, except that HGH is a large airport on its own as well.

User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 734 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6284 times:

Interesting, indeed i would have expected PVG instead of HGH.
I am also curious about YYZ, does it not show on GDS for S11?

I would also think a ADD-LFW-GRU would be an attractive route to link the growing Brazil-Africa commercial interests, from both east and west coasts. Perhaps this is wishful thinking on my part. I know TAAG and SAA already fly there but connections though southern Africa is probably not very convenient, especially for West Africans.


User currently offlinejetsetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6279 times:

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 9):
I would also think a ADD-LFW-GRU would be an attractive route

And their partner/affiliate ASKY could feed West African traffic to Brazil through LFW


User currently offlineIAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6250 times:

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 9):
I would also think a ADD-LFW-GRU would be an attractive route to link the growing Brazil-Africa commercial interests

Why LFW instead of LOS or ACC?


User currently onlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8565 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6238 times:
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Quoting IAD380 (Reply 11):
Why LFW instead of LOS or ACC?

LFW is the hub for ETs protegé in West Africa , ASky .



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12463 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6190 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 2):
but what type of traffic is ET going after? Is there an Ethiopian colony in Hangzhou? Are there substantial business ties between Addis Ababa and Hangzhou?

There has been massive investment by China and Chinese companies in Africa in recent years; as the airline with arguably the best (and most direct) link between China and Africa, ET is best placed to benefit from this; I would imagine that freight is also big business for the airline.

I doubt if HGH will be the last city it serves in China.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25291 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6078 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 13):
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 2):
but what type of traffic is ET going after? Is there an Ethiopian colony in Hangzhou? Are there substantial business ties between Addis Ababa and Hangzhou?

There has been massive investment by China and Chinese companies in Africa in recent years; as the airline with arguably the best (and most direct) link between China and Africa, ET is best placed to benefit from this; I would imagine that freight is also big business for the airline.

For example, there were over 35,000 Chinese workers in Libya when the current political unrest began. I think most have now been evacuated.


User currently offline757ops From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6012 times:

ET are also planning to launch MAA, MAK, PHC and NSI for the summer schedule also YYZ 3x weekly via FCO from June on 77L

Great expansion for ET!


User currently onlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8565 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5992 times:
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Quoting 757ops (Reply 15):
ET are also planning to launch MAA, MAK, PHC and NSI for the summer schedule also YYZ 3x weekly via FCO from June on 77L

MAK ? sorry , I don't recognise the code , where is that ?



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User currently offlinejetsetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5860 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 16):
MAK ? sorry , I don't recognise the code , where is that ?

Google told me it's Malakal in southern Sudan. ET will be the first international carrier to the airport


User currently offlinedkny From Ethiopia, joined Mar 2004, 714 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5808 times:

Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 17):
Google told me it's Malakal in southern Sudan. ET will be the first international carrier to the airport

ET has been flying to Malakal for a few months now.


User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2975 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5721 times:

Ok, seems ET has rights to carry DEL - HGH on all 5 days of their operation.


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User currently offline757ops From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5654 times:

Quoting dkny (Reply 18):
Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 17):
Google told me it's Malakal in southern Sudan. ET will be the first international carrier to the airport

ET has been flying to Malakal for a few months now.

It was due to but never started scheduled service recent flights were charters and proving flights.


User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2975 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5600 times:

Quoting 757ops (Reply 15):
ET are also planning to launch MAA, MAK, PHC and NSI for the summer schedule also YYZ 3x weekly via FCO from June on 77L

Are you sure ET has plans to launch MAA?



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User currently offlinetwa@FRA From China, joined Nov 2000, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5535 times:

Actually HGH is not that bad, Shanghai quite close, but also Suzhou, Wuxi located between with their huge international industrial areas are easy to reach. Furthermore Ningbo and Yiwu (having the world biggest permanent fair) is nearby. Last but not least Nanjing is also well connected.

User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2043 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5448 times:

Quoting twa@FRA (Reply 22):
Actually HGH is not that bad, Shanghai quite close, but also Suzhou, Wuxi located between with their huge international industrial areas are easy to reach. Furthermore Ningbo and Yiwu (having the world biggest permanent fair) is nearby. Last but not least Nanjing is also well connected.

Funny, because Hangzhou is one of the top tourism destinations for Chinese, as it is "so relaxing and laid back." Besides, a lot of the companies that invest in Africa are SOEs with their HQ in Beijing and in some cases in Shanghai or some provincial capitals, not in 2nd or 3rd tier cities like Hangzhou.

From HGH you still need to take a taxi, etc, to Hangzhou South railway station and then a train to Shanghai, which is anywhere between 45 mins to 1hr 30mins. If you want to reach Suzhou, Wuxi, or Nanjing (30mins to 1hr 30mins from Shanghai South or Shanghai Central) it would be easier to fly into PVG (or SHA, since the highest speed trains to Nanjing and Suzhou also leave from Shanghai Hongqiao station).

Very weird route indeed.

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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5397 times:

Quoting ojas (Reply 19):
Ok, seems ET has rights to carry DEL - HGH on all 5 days of their operation.

I guess more importantly than passengers the flight will have a belly-full of cargo doing HGH-DEL



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25 IAD380 : I could not find any announcement on ET's website that ET is launching flights to YYZ in June. YYZ is not listed as a destination on the ET's online
26 ETinCaribe : Indeed, the Chinese presence on the continent is very impressive and growing. And Indians are following in their footsteps. They will post it 2 month
27 dkny : I doubt YYZ will start in june if they're going to use the 777. They will have 4 by then and all 4 will be doing IAD and PEK daily. So in order to do
28 IndianicWorld : Wow, HGH is a random choice, ut I guess they have looked into it, and see potential. Good to see more carriers looking outside the usual PEK/PVG/CAN r
29 Post contains links dkny : Official press release from Ethiopian http://ethiopianairlines.com/en/news/prarchive.aspx?id=220 "Ethiopian Airlines is pleased to unveil its plan to
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