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Air Midwest Routes Out Of MCI  
User currently offlineTSRA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 218 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

A colleague and I were reminiscing about Air Midwest's operation out of MCI back in their heyday. We were trying to remember all the cities they flew to and how many passengers flew on each route. Here is what we could recall;
OMA
DSM
SGF
LIT
ICT
MHK
SLN
GCK (?)

I know we missed a few and we have no idea how many people actually flew. So all you A.net gurus, could you fill in the blanks for us? Just so you know, there is a case of beer on the line between my colleague and I as to who came up with the most cities!

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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2459 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Air Midwest timetable images showing route maps are available on the following website:
http://www.departedflights.com/routemaps1b.html

It looks like Lincoln, OMA, Hays, Great Bend, Topeka, Parsons, Columbia, DSM, Moline, Springfield MO, Salina, Joplin, ICT, and Sioux City all had non-stop service from MCI, based on the timetable route maps listed on the site.

FYI, I drink Michelob.

[Edited 2011-03-03 09:22:08]


Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
User currently offlinejoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

I remember OMA-MCI used to be 11x daily. Then it was reduced to 7x daily and then slowly reduced from there.

It was really nice and wish it was still around. It was marketed as US Airways express. Worked good for a OMA-MCI-CLT flight.

It actually came back for about two years as part of a GRI EAS contract for aircraft repositioning and flew 1x or 2x daily about 2007ish. I looked back and it was fairly full...75% loads most the time.

The routing was GRI-OMA-MCI-GRI going both directions 2x daily.


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2459 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

I remember in the late 1960s when Gary Adamson was flying bodies around Kansas in a single Cessna 206 as Aviation Services. They changed the name to Air Midwest in 1969 when they bought Beech 99s to serve western Kansas. My sister worked for ZV in Clovis, NM, ICT, and MHK.

Good ole "Scare Midwest". They once took off from Clovis NM with one too many passengers on a 99. The pilot looked back in flight and there was a passenger sitting in the aisle because all the seats were taken. True story.



Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
User currently offlinewilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2586 times:

Back in the 80s I thought they flew to Ft. Leanard Wood, Mo. I know Skways did for sure.

User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2459 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 5):
Air Midwest flew Beech 1900D's towards the end, with other turboprops prior to that.

The aircraft that I remember are Cessna 206, Cessna 402, Beech 99, Saab 340A (first US operator), Beech 1900D, and the Swearingen Metro (San Antonio Sewer Pipe, or the "Rocket").



Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
User currently offlineknope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2985 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

Here's what I can think of for Air Midwest out of MCI....

Kansas
Topeka
Manhattan
Salina
Parsons
Wichita
Dodge City
Hays
Great Bend
Garden City
Johnson County (KS)
(I don't think they ever flew nonstop from MCI to or from Hutchinson, Goodland, or Liberal)

Missouri
Kansas City Downtown
Columbia
Joplin
Springfield

Nebraska
Omaha
Lincoln
Grand Island

Iowa
Des Moines
Sioux City
Cedar Rapids
Waterloo

Illinois
Moline
Peoria
Springfield

Arkansas
Fayetteville
Little Rock

South Dakota
Sioux Falls

Some of these were relatively brief back shortly before Braniff shut down and there were lots of BN* feeder flight at Kansas City. Quincy IL and Madison WI were also linked to Kansas City, but I think all those were 1-stop.

As for Fort Leonard Wood, I *think* they didn't get KC flights until relatively recently under the Great Lakes banner.


User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 784 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 1):
Air Midwest timetable images showing route maps are available on the following website:
http://www.departedflights.com/route....html

Am I just superstitious or did ALL of the failed airlines started the name with "Air ..." ... what's going on?

Maybe the next new airline will be careful in choosing its name ...   


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

Quoting knope2001 (Reply 8):
(I don't think they ever flew nonstop from MCI to or from Hutchinson, Goodland, or Liberal)

Goodland (GLD), and Lamar (LAA) were served via DEN for a time, as USAir Express in early 1991. Dodge City and Garden City were also served via DEN at the time.

Hutchinson (HUT) was served via ICT and GBD with Braniff Express. I would think EA Express would've served the same markets.



It's a Great Day for Hockey!
User currently offlinenkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2688 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

I do remember the LIT flight continuing on to MSY, and then the same route back..


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User currently offlinesunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2057 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

IIRC Air Midwest flew Metros into MSP sometime in the '80's.


Just an MSPAVGEEK
User currently offlinenwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

They also served Liberal, KS. Can't remember if it was "just" DEN service, or if it was MCI as well...


"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2459 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 11):
They also served Liberal, KS. Can't remember if it was "just" DEN service, or if it was MCI as well...
Quoting CitationJet (Reply 1):
Air Midwest timetable images showing route maps are available on the following website:
http://www.departedflights.com/route....html

The maps in the above link shows Liberal non-stop service to DEN, ICT, AMA, Lamar, Dodge City and Garden City. I don't believe there ever was Liberal to MCI non-stop.



Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1071 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

What about HRO and FSM? (I don't think the latter was ever served nonstop, though.)

User currently offlineCWAFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 5):
The aircraft that I remember are Cessna 206, Cessna 402, Beech 99, Saab 340A (first US operator), Beech 1900D, and the Swearingen Metro (San Antonio Sewer Pipe, or the "Rocket").

I remember Len Morgan did an article on Air Midwest in Flying magazine back in the late 80's when they first got their 340's.


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2459 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

I was at the Paris Airshow in 1983 when Saab displayed the 340 in Air Midwest colors. This was right before Air Midwest's first Saab delivery. Gary Adamson, ZV president was there.
That was the airshow where the 747 shuttle carrier with the Enterprise on top was at the Paris airshow. The 747 did touch and go's with the shuttle on the first day of the show, industry day. The Russians were photographing the shuttle from the Russian chalet when it taxied by and did the low flyovers. A few years later they came out with a similar vehicle. We were able to walk right up to the 747 to about the inboard engine at the static display. Fun times.



Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
User currently offlineTSRA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Thanks everyone for your help! I totally forgot that Air Midwest flew for Eastern "back in the day".

My co-worker and I are tied in our little wager. I claimed Fayetteville (Old Drake), which was disputted and he claimed Johnson County, which I disputted. Looks like we were both right! Our tie breaker goes like this - during 2000, we have to get the closest to how many seats were sold on the larger cities routes -
ICT
DSM
OMA
SGF
LIT

My guess His Guess
ICT - 1100/month 1500/month
DSM - 1000/month 1400/month
OMA - 2000/month 2400/month
SGF - 900/month 1200/month
LIT - 1000/ month 2000/month

You can see I am going with the low side of things. So, can anyone out there confirm how many seats were sold per month? I can taste victory that is a case of Boulevard Pale Ale!!!


User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1600 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

Quoting TSRA (Reply 16):
disputted and he claimed Johnson County, which I disputted

Did he say which airport in Johnson County? I assume, from looking at the route maps that were posted, they served IXD, rather than OJC. Either way, I wasn't aware either ever had airline service.


-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineTSRA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

He claims it was IXD.

User currently offlineknope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2985 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

I'm quite sure it was what's now called New Century Air Center....IXD. It was called Johnson County Industrial and referred to as JCI in the timetables and OAG, which is the same airport as IXD.

They were not there terribly long...maybe a year? I think most of the time there was a flight or two to/from ICT, and sometimes it stopped in and/or came from MCI or MKC. So maybe MCI-JCI-ICT, ICT-MKC-JCI-ICT, things like that. Also for a few months they flew from JCI and MKC over to St Louis and up to Midway. I believe it was the Bi-State Parks airport across the river. So you could fly JCI-MKC-CPS-MDW on a Metroliner in the morning, and come back the same evening MDW-CPS-MKC-JCI.

[Edited 2011-03-04 14:12:59]

User currently offlineknope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2985 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Quoting TSRA (Reply 16):
My guess His Guess
ICT - 1100/month 1500/month
DSM - 1000/month 1400/month
OMA - 2000/month 2400/month
SGF - 900/month 1200/month
LIT - 1000/ month 2000/month

You can see I am going with the low side of things. So, can anyone out there confirm how many seats were sold per month? I can taste victory that is a case of Boulevard Pale Ale!!!

Here are the average month passengers boarded in 2000 one way from MCI on Air Midwest
1,724 Omaha
1,415 Wichita
1,047 Des Moines
717 Springifled
137 Little Rock

LIT seems oddly low, but perhaps in 2000 they didn't fly to LIT all the time?


User currently offlineTSRA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

Quoting knope2001 (Reply 20):

Thanks knope2001! Looks like I win!!! LIT does seem rather low esp with connecting service to MSY. Man I could of used a flight the other day between IXD-MKC, traffic was horrible.


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